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‘We Misled You’: How the Saudis Are Coming Clean on Funding Terrorism


On his latest trip, a former senior U.S. official finds a new attitude in Riyadh. But will it stick?
By Zalmay Khalilzad September 14, 2016

On my most recent trip to Saudi Arabia, I was greeted with a startling confession. In the past, when we raised the issue of funding Islamic extremists with the Saudis, all we got were denials. This time, in the course of meetings with King Salman, Crown Prince Nayef, Deputy Crown Mohammad Bin Salman and several ministers, one top Saudi official admitted to me, “We misled you.” He explained that Saudi support for Islamic extremism started in the early 1960s as a counter to Nasserism—the socialist political ideology that came out of the thinking of Egypt’s Gamal Abdel Nasser—which threatened Saudi Arabia and led to war between the two countries along the Yemen border. This tactic allowed them to successfully contain Nasserism, and the Saudis concluded that Islamism could be a powerful tool with broader utility.

Under their new and unprecedented policy of honesty, the Saudi leadership also explained to me that their support for extremism was a way of resisting the Soviet Union, often in cooperation with the United States, in places like Afghanistan in the 1980s. In this application too, they argued, it proved successful. Later it was deployed against Iranian-supported Shiite movements in the geopolitical competition between the two countries.

But over time, the Saudis say, their support for extremism turned on them, metastasizing into a serious threat to the Kingdom and to the West. They had created a monster that had begun to devour them. “We did not own up to it after 9/11 because we feared you would abandon or treat us as the enemy,” the Saudi senior official conceded. “And we were in denial.”

Why this new frankness? First, it’s fair to ask how far the new policy really goes. Clearly, there are some questions about whether some extremist Sunni groups, such as al-Nusra in Syria, are still getting Saudi money. But as the Saudis described it to me, this new approach to grappling with their past is part of the leadership’s effort to make a new future for their country, including a broad-based economic reform program.

In their current thinking, the Saudis see Islamic extremism as one of the two major threats facing the kingdom—the other threat being Iran. On Iran, there is continuity. I remember when King Abdullah asked me to pass on to President George W. Bush in 2006 that he needed to cut the “serpent’s head” and attack Iran and overthrow the regime. The new leadership, like their predecessors, blames Iran for regional instability and the many conflicts going on.

The new Saudi leadership, in other words, appears to be downgrading ideology in favor of modernization. In fact, one senior Saudi official explicitly said that the Kingdom was pursuing a “revolution under the cover of modernization”—meaning that modernization was now the driver of Saudi policy.



Can it succeed, when so little has changed politically in a country still run autocratically by the House of Saud? The biggest unknowns are the temptations of the past—whether the Saudi leadership is united behind the new program and whether those who benefited from the old order will attempt to derail the reform agenda and thus destabilize the country. The opposition could come from the powerful religious establishment, which might oppose the opening of entertainment centers, the reform of religious institutions, even limited co-education and increased female participation in the workforce.

There have been many reform programs announced before in Saudi Arabia, only to fade into insignificance. Also, modernization undermines two pillars of Saudi political legitimacy, the endorsement of the Wahhabi clerical establishment and the traditionalism that undergirds any monarchical government. As modernization creates economic uncertainty for those benefiting from the present inefficient order, the result could be political turmoil. And it is an open question as to whether the Saudi people have been sufficiently prepared at all relevant levels in terms of education and skills to compete in the world economy, as they will need to do in a modernized economy.

If not, social tensions and unrest may arise among those who are not prepared to compete.

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This was not my first trip to Saudi Arabia. I have been going there since the 1980s, when I was working at the State Department. I became even better acquainted with the Saudi leadership during my ambassadorship to Iraq from 2005 to 2007. I visited the kingdom often and developed cordial relationships with King Abdullah and other senior officials.

For many years, I was accustomed to Saudi officials being vague and ambiguous. Now, our interlocutors were straightforward and business-like in discussing their past and their future plans. In past decades, my impression had been that the Saudis did not work hard. Now a team of highly educated, young ministers works 16- to 18-hour days on refining and implementing a plan to transform the country. The plan is the brainchild of Mohammad bin Salman and focuses both on domestic and regional fronts. Salman and his ministers exude commitment and energy.

Across the Islamic-majority countries there has been an ongoing struggle between modernization and Islamism. Riyadh views modernization as the vehicle through which the Saudi state, at long last, can confront and defeat extremism, foster a dynamic private sector and master the looming economic challenges. The Saudi program includes:

  • New limits on the ability of the religious police to arrest dissidents.
  • Purges of extremists from the government and greater efforts to monitor their influence in security institutions.
  • The appointment of new religious leaders to counter Islamic extremism on theological grounds.
  • The transformation of the world Muslim League—a key Saudi arm for supporting Islamic movements abroad—by the appointment of a new leader and a decision to stop supporting Islamist madrassas abroad.
On the economic front, the new leaders have developed plans for economic transformation and reduced dependence on oil. Their Vision 2030 and National Transformation Program 2020 focus on shrinking the country's enormous bureaucracy, reducing and ultimately removing subsidies, expanding the private sector including attracting investment from abroad by becoming more transparent and accountable and by removing red tape.

It plans to transform its giant oil company Aramco, including the public listing of it and raising perhaps as much as 2 trillion dollars for its investment fund, with the thought that income from its investments can reduce dependence on revenue from oil. To encourage more Saudi money being spent at home, the government is opening entertainment facilities in the kingdom and intends to attract big names from the U.S. An agreement has already been signed with Six Flags. It plans to increase the number of women in the workforce. I visited King Abdullah city, a new city planned and being built by private sector. Here, men and women will attend college classes together, and facilities important for foreign companies are being constructed to the specifications of interested international companies.

One byproduct of the Saudi focus on ISIL and Iran seems to be a more enlightened view by Riyadh toward Israel. Israel and Saudi Arabia share a similar threat perception regarding Iran and ISIL, and that old hostility need not preclude greater cooperation between the two states going forward. The Saudis stated with unusual directness that they do not regard Israel as an enemy and that the kingdom is making no military contingency plans directed against Israel. They did emphasize the need for progress on the Palestinian issue, but the tone on this subject was noticeably less emotional than in the past. The clear priority was on defeating ISIL and balancing Iran from a position of strength.

On some levels, the prospects for planned reforms are more promising in Saudi Arabia than they are in most other parts of the Middle East. Saudi Arabia has oil reserves and is not roiled in conflict: two important advantages. My visit left me convinced that key segments of the Saudi leadership are serious about their modernization plans and are pursuing it with vigor and professionalism.

There are, as I said, plenty of reasons to be skeptical of ultimate success. However, if the reform effort does work, Saudi Arabia is poised to become more powerful than before, enabling it to play a bigger role in regional dynamics including in balancing Iran and perhaps negotiating about ending the civil wars in the region. A true change in Saudi Arabia’s policy of supporting Islamist extremists would be a turning point in the effort to defeat them. Given the kingdom’s role, Saudi success can provide a model for the rest of the Sunni Arab and Islamic world on how to pursue reform and succeed. That could, in turn, help launch the reformation that is so badly needed. The region and the world have a stake in Saudi success, and should do what we can to encourage and support them on this new path.


Zalmay Khalilzad is a former U.S. ambassador to Afghanistan, Iraq and the United Nations. He is the author of “The Envoy: From Kabul to the White House, My Journey Through a Turbulent World,” from St. Martin’s Press. This trip was arranged by the Washington Institute for Near East Policy.
 
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last night i was a bit depressed.. the new meds gave me about 9 hours of quality sleep..

with articles such as the one above here, and the new trends to cool down the war on terror (war of terror, some might say), i can not and will not ignore the massmedia news..

this is the first time since i started my world-improvement / peacefan work, that i have to re-read the most relevant articles to the point of memorizing them and the spelling of critical labels / words like Nasserism..

i won't have much to say for a while, except thank you; in this case : thank you, Saudi Arabian King, Princes, Princesses, and government :) Suddenly i no longer think an actually golden sportscar is a sign of decadence :) you can't call it decadence when that economic social-circle is actually sticking their neck our like myself :)

With regards,
Rene AJM Veerman aka peacefan @ defence.pk/forums aka vredefan @ forums.marokko.nl
CEO + CTO of http://seductiveapps.com
see also https://github.com/seductiveapps
see also https://facebook.com/ReneVeermanSeductiveApps
see also https://facebook.com/SeductiveAppsAcademy

i will now send this forum-thread of conversation to my regular 'wider email-ing list'; the USA + Israeli + Dutch (Netherlands') government, and media outlets in the USA and the Netherlands, and forum.marokko.nl subforum TheeLoung (TeaLounge).
This will on average take me about 15 minutes, maybe 20 minutes, to do properly..

see also : http://forums.marokko.nl/showthread.php?t=5489759&p=131481760#post131481760
see also : http://forums.marokko.nl/showthread.php?t=5489759&p=131481762&viewfull=1#post131481762

i have just now sent out the email to my emailing-list containing full copies of this article and it's copy on forums.marokko.nl (tea-lounge subforum). i am very confident that it'll arrive where it needs to be read and where it may be read, at the normal speed of email processing by computers and humans. :)

On my most recent trip to Saudi Arabia, I was greeted with a startling confession. In the past, when we raised the issue of funding Islamic extremists with the Saudis, all we got were denials. This time, in the course of meetings with King Salman, Crown Prince Nayef, Deputy Crown Mohammad Bin Salman and several ministers, one top Saudi official admitted to me, “We misled you.” He explained that Saudi support for Islamic extremism started in the early 1960s as a counter to Nasserism—the socialist political ideology that came out of the thinking of Egypt’s Gamal Abdel Nasser—which threatened Saudi Arabia and led to war between the two countries along the Yemen border. This tactic allowed them to successfully contain Nasserism, and the Saudis concluded that Islamism could be a powerful tool with broader utility.

Under their new and unprecedented policy of honesty, the Saudi leadership also explained to me that their support for extremism was a way of resisting the Soviet Union, often in cooperation with the United States, in places like Afghanistan in the 1980s. In this application too, they argued, it proved successful. Later it was deployed against Iranian-supported Shiite movements in the geopolitical competition between the two countries.

Terrorism started as 'islamic guerilla warfare', and became terrorism (and thus despicable in my opinion), when the terrorists started to see 'soft targets' as 'legitimate targets'.
How do i come to this conclusion? well i've read my copy of the paper book '150 questions for a guerilla' fully at least once, and it's in the book cabinet behind me.. together with other valuable books with much wise content in a think book....
Guerilla warfare attacks banks, military installations, etc, etc, but "preaches" that civilian targets (soft targets) should be avoided as much as humanly possible. 'collateral damage' also means 'civilian targets' but specifies *accurately!* that the 'collateral damage' are like 'friendly fire'. It means 'accidental loss of 'civilian' ('non-combatant') lives, and it also could (and often does) means 'injuries among civilians and/or non-combatants'.

i refuse to specify anything else at this point. when i have to act as 'dictionary man' or 'thesaurus man' (see dictionary.com and thesaurus.com), i don't go adding theological or new military-strategy/tactics to such a post/reply. people who do do that are getting their own thread dangerously off track and off topic to what you're replying to.)
 
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Yep, that admission by the Saudi's is a very powerful (in a good way!) piece of historic information that really deserves it's own action series and/or movies, in all countries that have their own large / small movie & tv-productions industries.
This ain't just big news, it's crucial historic information that fortunately had to wait the proverbial 50 years before it could be elevated to status of public secret... Thank you, Saudi government. You scored 20 big favor points from me. Favor points that i can't always just say "OK, i'm on it" to, but we all know what it means. Ask me to stay safe while i perform a favor for you Saudi Arabians (plus leadership(s)), and i might be able to clear my schedule within like 4 hours or so.. Egyptians, and Isreali's you handle your affairs so darn well at the moment and in recent years, i give you both also 20 big favor points. And the same for the Libyans, Tunesians, and Moroccans.
From here on i'm going to avoid the significant overhead to email everything immediately to my mailinglist and the 1 other forum i currently have an active account on (nickname vredefan at forums.marokko.nl)..
I'm reorganizing my home, and frankly you people should not expect me to become a full fledged diplomat / bureaucrat. I need to stay very flexible and able to leave my home at a moment's notice. Yes, i have several bags packed for short and long holidays outside amsterdam, and i can probably keep my phone working on most short holidays ok :)
It's evening here, so i'm gonna work a bit more on my home interior decorations, not emailing a bunch of people who are sure to follow this forum as "the official outlet / leak-point-in-cyberspace" :)
 
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Washington, May 20, 1966:

"...Since December 1965, Saudi King Faisal had been calling for stronger ties among Islamic states, i.e., including non-Arab but Islamic states such as Iran, as a counter to Nasser's Arab Socialist movement."


Source: FOREIGN RELATIONS OF THE UNITED STATES, 1964–1968, VOLUME XXI, NEAR EAST REGION; ARABIAN PENINSULA, 13.Circular Telegram From the Department of State to Certain Posts

It should be noted that the opinion of the State Dept. at the time was that terrorism in the region (Yemen, Saudi Arabia) was sponsored by Nasser.
 
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First the 9/11 bill and now exposing the saudis in the open.
I bet the saudis are starting to badly freak out. It seems they are quickly reaching their expiry date.
 
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FYI : one of my recent posts was deleted by the moderator team of defence.pk/forums with the reason 'stop advertising on defence.pk!'.
I apologize for crossing that line, and i will comply with the moderator's wishes of course.
For those who have read that post by me; the favor points i handed out are real and will stay real.
But i can not repeat the rest of the post, of course.
I thank the moderator team for their action "against" my account here. It was and will be another valuable lesson learned the easy way. A valuable lesson that teaches me more than 1 thing even.
 
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The Americans forgave Ex-President George W. Bush for his mistakes.

The Egyptians forgave Ex-President Hosni Mubarrak for his 'harsh' (some would say 'firm') handling of political groups of people that wanted to overthrow the Egyptina government using terrorism as a tool to get elected into office.

There are bound to be a few hidden shrines in Irak and perhaps elsewhere as well, for Ex-President Saddam Hussein of Iraq, where he is not worshipped, but thanked for his years of service keeping Iraq clean from terrorists.

The Green Movement of Iran is now aware that the Ayatollah and his leadership(s) under his command / control, are not a dictator or tyrants, but rather strong good leadership like Hosni Mubarrak and the current Egyptian leadership of Abdel Fattah el-Sisi, and as such should not try to overthrow the Ayatollah's government or they would face harsh pruning like Abdel el-Sisi had to do against the Muslim Brotherhood (*after* the Muslim Brotherhood took up violence as a tool to get "elected into office").

The point i'm trying to make without a 5th. 6th, 7th, 8th, etc, etc, example of leaders (and the leadership(s) under their command/control), who did what they could to ensure peace, is this :

You let a leader, or a group of leaders, learn from their mistakes.
Confessions are not to be treated like 'blood is in the water, inform the sharks about it'.
(--- peacefan at defence.pk/forums, 2016-09(Sep) A.D.)


I hope that is clear enough to all reading this fb thread.
And if my post here is withheld from you, well, sorry, that's beyond my control and ability to project moral influence. :(
 
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Unfortunately this fire will burn a lot of us as well including your country and mine. We the people who have nothing to do with that godforsaken region. Already has.
You guys are playing the same game with the hinduvta extremists... the only difference is you guys are a couple decades behind the wahabbis from Saudis...

So don't be gleaming too bright ... Patelji.

These saudis are behind 9/11 and behind ISIS. Hail Trump.
Nah... Saudis are too stupid and too much of American bum chums to do 9/11... that's your Israeli freinds you should be looking at... they were also the ones who made sure building seven also came down... Stein had to get his shekels... that's why he made the decision to "pull it"
 
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You guys are playing the same game with the hinduvta extremists... the only difference is you guys are a couple decades behind the wahabbis from Saudis...

So don't be gleaming too bright ... Patelji.

Hindutva extremists ??? :lol:

You are comparing Hindutva extremists which are a local problem in India with Islamic extremism which is a global problem ? Which Hindutva organisation is designated as a terrorist organisation by the UN ? Which Hindutva organisation can be compared to the like of ISIS, AL Qaeda etc. ?

Please dont make such a crappy comparison just for the sake of it Maulana ji.
 
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none of this is unknown to USA... and even usa are willing participants in this... did not the coalition give weapons to people who later turned into ISIS? why single out saudis....
 
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