We made a goof, we fixed it, says US on India map

[Abu Zolfiqar]

this is hilarious.....the indians make a thread on the subject then wait in agony, praying it will become a troll-fest...and then PDF's resident bhartis wonder why we laugh and ridicule them all the time

so the US stated that it wont be party to the bilateral dispute and it corrected a map to RIGHTLY show the territory as disputed.....so what's the problem here and what is there new to report?

 

[janon]

this is hilarious.....the indians make a thread on the subject then wait in agony, praying it will become a troll-fest...and then PDF's resident bhartis wonder why we laugh and ridicule them all the time

so the US stated that it wont be party to the bilateral dispute and it corrected a map to RIGHTLY show the territory as disputed.....so what's the problem here and what is there new to report?

No we didn't. Cheers!

 

[RazPaK]

I'm not going to feed the trolls. Truth is before everyone's eyes to see. Good day.

 

[janon]

I'm not going to feed the trolls. Truth is before everyone's eyes to see. Good day.

Indeed it is. 12 million kashmiris living happily as proud Indians, and a few people writing graffitis on walls, and spurious websites. I asked for a proper credible source, and you left with the statement that the truth is there for all to see. Indeed, it is. And has been, for a while now.

 

[RazPaK]

Thousands of Unmarked Graves Discovered in Kashmir | Human Rights Now - Amnesty International USA Blog


http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/23/world/asia/23kashmir.html

Good day SIR!

 

[Windjammer]

Every sentence there is irrelevant. There was no cherry picking involved, I was merely telling you that your quotation is out of place and inappropriate for the context. Nobody said anything about the number of bodies.

Yes I have heard that quote, and funnily enough, it is from the same poem that I quoted from, Alexander Pope's "Essay on criticism". It brought both the quotes "just enough learning to misquote" and "a little knowledge is a dangerous thing" to the english language. He is the second most quoted author in english after shakespeare. Any further doubts?


Do you really want to continue to find out which one of us has "a little learning"? Or would you rather just stop trying to come up with intelligent quotes and making irrelevant statements in the process?

The picture or rather the writing is there on the wall for all to read and see, one can digest the facts or digress from reality.
Before the likes of Saddam, Mubarak or Qadafi met their fate, albeit, there were crowds chanting their support but one could never miss their smeared portraits to conclude all is not honky dory....much like the obvious messages left by the oppressed Kashmiris, which no amount of fancy quotes can render.

 

[janon]

Thousands of Unmarked Graves Discovered in Kashmir | Human Rights Now - Amnesty International USA Blog


Good day SIR!

Thats not what I asked source for. We already know of unmarked graves, and we know that those were the bodies of militants that their home country and family doesnt want back.

I asked for a proper source for those statistics of civilian killings and mass rapes that you claimed based on a website. I asked if you can find those numbers from any credible news agency. You couldn't and still can't. So you just said "the truth is there to see". And then gave a source for a claim neither of us dispute, which is the existence of graves. Good luck trying to substanitate your claims.

 

[RazPaK]

Parveena Ahanger’s son Javed was taken away by the police on Aug. 18, 1990, and never seen again. An investigation found that he had been killed by security forces, but they have not been prosecuted, she said.

“I never got any response from the government,” she said. “I never got his dead body.”

After years of fighting in the courts to find out what happened to Javed, Ms. Ahanger was skeptical that the human rights report would get her son’s body back, or bring her justice.

“If the high court doesn’t give any justice on this issue, what will the state human rights commission do?” she said.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/23/world/asia/23kashmir.html

I am done sir. Good day.

 

[janon]

The picture or rather the writing is there on the wall for all to read and see, one can digest the facts or digress from reality.
Before the likes of Saddam, Mubarak or Qadafi met their fate, albeit, there were crowds chanting their support but one could never miss their smeared portraits to conclude all is not honky dory....much like the obvious messages left by the oppressed Kashmiris, which no amount of fancy quotes can render.

Yes yes, so just like saddam and mubarak, India is going to fail in kashmir, isn't it? Well, do you have an idea of when it will happen? You see, thats what your grandparents thought during the 50s, thats what they thought when they tried to invade kashmir in 65 (that all the kashmiris would welcome you), and thats what your parents thought later. So what do you think, will it happen soon? In this millenium? Or is your time frame eternity? Glad to know that pakistanis have this dream to keep them going as a nation. Countries that have nothing realistic to dream about or aspire for have to manufacture unattainable dreams and false promises.

Meanwhile kashmiris live and flourish as proud Indians.

 

[DrSomnath999]

arre map mein kya rakha hey yaar ?
LOC is the real map

 

[janon]

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/23/world/asia/23kashmir.html

I am done sir. Good day.

I'll repeat once more. I asked a source for your statistics of civilian killings. And 10,000+ mass rapes. I did not ask for one time news reports. Yes, such incidents have happened, and happen more among pakistani security forces. There is a video of your rangers shooting and murdering a young boy in cold blood and watching him slowly bleed to death. I was specific. Show me a proper source for those large numbers. I will quote you again. Substantiate this:

Jan. 1989 to Dec. 31, 2011
Total Killings * 93,712
Custodial Killings 6,989
Civilians Arrested 119,752
Structures Arsoned/Destroyed 105,936
Women Widowed 22,762
Children Orphaned 107,434
Women gang-raped / Molested 10,021

This all happened near the border?

Now two times you have evaded it and linked to random news reports. At this point I can safely conclude that you can't substantiate those numbers through proper news sources. And you should learn to admit it. What you want to believe is different from the reality on the ground.

 

[ares]

Baluchistan in not a disputed territory in the UN. I am not going off-topic. I said the Kashmiris have a right to decide for themselves what they want.

In the real world this stuff does not matter ..As we know East Pakistan was not a disputed territory either ..yet today it is a seperate country ..whereas Kashmir despite being disputed continues to be part of India even after six decades.

In this world ..if you are a bigger, stronger , more power full economically, militarily or diplomatically ..you will undoubtedly have you way.

Ans US state dept altering its maps on Indian request despite Pakistani protests ..is a diplomatic victory for India.

 

[StormShadow]

In the real world this stuff does not matter ..As we know East Pakistan was not a disputed territory either ..yet today it is a seperate country ..whereas Kashmir despite being disputed continues to be part of India even after six decades.

In this world ..if you are a bigger, stronger , more power full economically, militarily or diplomatically ..you will undoubtedly have you way.

Ans US state dept altering its maps on Indian request despite Pakistani protests ..is a diplomatic victory for India.

Post of the day.

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

Thats not what I asked source for. We already know of unmarked graves, and we know that those were the bodies of militants that their home country and family doesnt want back.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/23/world/asia/23kashmir.html

I am done sir. Good day.

Yup, me too. . .

Amnesty Calls for Investigation into Mass Graves in Kashmir | Kashmir Global


we also know about the problem of 'fake encounters' in Occupied Kashmir -- scores of such cases by the occupation forces (sissies) have been documented

 

[RazPaK]

http://www.hrw.org/sites/default/files/reports/INDIA935.PDF

Here's a document for the guy who just wants stats. As if subtracting a couple hundred from the figures will makes a difference.

In this world ..if you are a bigger, stronger , more power full economically, militarily or diplomatically ..you will undoubtedly have you way.

If this is your means to justify oppression you are a sick person indeed.