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Anti-India sentiment grows amid Kashmir unrest


By AIJAZ HUSSAIN and MATTHEW ROSENBERG, Associated Press Writers
Fri Aug 22, 12:14 PM ET



SRINAGAR, India - The crowd's hostility was unmistakable. Each time they passed Indian soldiers, thousands chanted the name of one of South Asia's most violent Islamic groups.



"India, your death will come. Lashkar will come," they chanted, harking back to the early 1990s when militants from groups like Lashkar-e-Tayyaba roamed this predominantly Muslim region's towns and villages and even Kashmir's peaceful separatists openly defied New Delhi.

Those days seem more like the present than the past in Kashmir, where a dispute over 99 acres of land for a Hindu shrine has prompted protests by hundreds of thousands, reviving the separatist movement and threatening to further undermine the India-Pakistan peace process.

While the militants may still be underground, a new generation of Muslim Kashmiris has loudly taken up the separatists' old slogan of "azadi" — freedom — from Hindu-majority India, long viewed by many here as an occupying power.


The latest and largest protest came Friday as an estimated 200,000 people streamed into central Srinagar, shutting down this city once famed for its cool summer weather and sweeping Himalayan panoramas.



They chanted "Death to India!" and "We want freedom!" while soldiers and police kept their distance, hoping to avoid a repeat of clashes that have killed at least 34 people in recent weeks.



Such scenes have pierced the notion, widely held throughout India just months ago, that a semblance of normal life was returning to Kashmir after 19 years of rebellion. Militant attacks were down, separatist politicians appeared sidelined and tourists were back lounging on houseboats on Srinagar's Dal Lake.

That is all gone now, pushed aside by the anger at Indian rule that many here say was subsumed but never extinguished.

"This is a freedom movement, a people's movement," said Salman Ahmed, a 27-year-old protester. "We are united to fight India until we get freedom."
The timing could not be worse. Divided between India and Muslim Pakistan, Kashmir lies at the heart of their rivalry. The unrest is straining already tense relations between the nuclear-armed neighbors, who have fought two wars over Kashmir.

Statements from Islamabad supporting the protesters have prompted angry responses from New Delhi. They've also raised suspicions of a Pakistani hand in the unrest, reflecting India's belief that recent political turmoil in Pakistan is allowing hawkish elements there to renew the struggle against India after four years of peace talks.

Such fears are being stoked by repeated skirmishes along the heavily militarized LoC that divides Kashmir — each side blames the other — and the bombing of India's embassy in Afghanistan, an attack New Delhi charges was orchestrated by Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence agency. Islamabad vehemently denies the allegations.

One top Indian security official, A.K. Mitra, chief of the paramilitary Border Security Force, recently told reporters that the ISI plans to use the unrest to sneak 800 Islamic militants into Kashmir.

But on the streets of Kashmir, it is India's continued claim to the region — and the presence of an estimated 500,000 Indian soldiers — that is seen as the problem.
"We are a separate people, we were never part of India," Shabir Hussain, a 30-year-old protester in Srinagar, said Friday.

It's a widely shared sentiment, and its roots can be traced to 1947, when Britain gave independence to its Indian colony by dividing it into largely Hindu India and overwhelmingly Muslim Pakistan.

Kashmir, then technically a British protectorate and not a part of colonial India, was caught in the middle. Its Hindu king insisted he wanted to remain independent, dithering until tribal raiders attacked from Pakistan. When he asked New Delhi for help, there was a steep price: union with India.

War broke out between India and Pakistan, and the verdant Kashmir valley, the region's heart, ended up under Indian rule.

In the ensuing decades, separatist movements ebbed and flowed in Indian Kashmir, where the sight of soldiers on patrol became part of everyday life, fueling resentment.

Most of the separatist movements were peaceful until 1989, when Islamic insurgents took up arms hoping to win independence for India's part of Kashmir or see it merged with Pakistan. The rebellion has killed an estimated 68,000 people, most of them civilians.

Few Kashmiris blame the militants for the deaths.

"The Indian army has unleashed a reign of terror in Kashmir," said Nissar Ahmed, a 35-year-old government worker. "This is a reaction and response to their atrocities."


The spark for the latest unrest was a plan to transfer land to the Amarnath shrine — a cave to which millions of Hindu pilgrims flock every year to see a phallic-shaped icicle revered as an incarnation of Shiva, the Hindu god of destruction and regeneration.

Authorities said bathrooms and shelters for the devotees were going to be built on the land. But Muslims alleged the land transfer would alter the religious balance in the region, comparing the move to Israeli settlements in the West Bank and prompting authorities to scrap the plan.

That, in turn, sparked protests in Jammu, the region's only Hindu-majority city, which were countered by more protests in Muslim-dominated areas such as Srinagar.

While Hindus are still protesting in Jammu, it is the Muslim demonstrations that have taken center stage, threatening India's grip on its only Muslim majority state.

"The peace process between India and Pakistan failed to change the ground situation in Kashmir," said Noor Mohammed Baba, a professor at the University of Kashmir.

"Now this festering wound is manifesting itself on the streets. This is a mass uprising and in many ways more serious and comprehensive than the early 1990s."

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Associated Press writers Aijaz Hussain reported this story from Srinagar and Matthew Rosenberg from New Delhi.



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what will happen to those living in *** , poor chaps will be talibanised,atleast
they didnt elected to be with pak in 1947, but it was mr. jinnah who wanted something,...........and the story goes on.
the day kasmiris if unluckily choose pak , the would be exercising democracy last time.:tdown:

That's none of our concern...
 
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Its the mosques....its the damned mosques. That's where it all starts.

We need to separate politics from the mosque. That is the only way forward for both India and the Islamic world in general.

Political activities should be banned in and around religious places all across India.

There should be a concerted, long term effort to punish politicians who manipulate people on the basis of religion. There should also be a long term effort to built a social stigma around religious references in politics.
 
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Then I would suggest make Kashmir in Pakistan control Independent and free.

It is really not about India or Pakistan.

It is about Kashmir.

The cry of Kashmir is loud and clear. They want to be part of Pakistan.

Go check your news! or is it really free press. ;)
 
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Why? Why not take the moral high ground and bring AJK (along with GB) to the UN?
That is not what the UN resolutions call for, and it does nothing to get India to agree with a plebiscite and give Kashmiris their rights under the UN resolutions and instrument of accession conditions, which Pakistan is agreed to conducting on its territory, and therefore does not resolve the problem.

Any solution outside of the parameters of the UN resolutions needs to be arrived at through consultations between the two parties.

This is also a territorial dispute for the two countries, and from Pakistan's perspective, how is the dispute resolved by holding a plebiscite only on its territory?
This is the last & worst case option. The implications are hard even to imagine.

The LC should be converted to an IB.
The option of a plebiscite is a condition of the instrument of accession and the UN resolutions.

A resolutions such as that, keeping in mind the wishes of the Kashmiris, would end the largest source of tension in South Asia, and IMO portend much greater cooperation and prosperity as a result, it is therefore one of the best options.

Merely stating somethign is bad hs no value, if you cannot articulate why it is 'the worst'.
what will happen to those living in *** , poor chaps will be talibanised,atleast
they didnt elected to be with pak in 1947, but it was mr. jinnah who wanted something,...........and the story goes on.
the day kasmiris if unluckily choose pak , the would be exercising democracy last time.:tdown:
Pleas do not rewrite history and to fit your jingoism, and claim to know what the Kashmiris wanted or didn't, since it is your country that has refused to implement a plebiscite as required by the IoA and UN resolutions.

Whether the Kashmiris want to be with Pakistan or not is their decision.

Also please do not generalize an entire country and its people. If you cannot be civil then you have no place here.
 
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If that's what you think we are doing, then its you who has a serious problem.

In any case, I don't mind insulting religion. Its useless, its a hindrance to progress.

Especially the abrahmic ones which rely on mass-brainwashing to propagate their despicable theories.

What do you think Churches and mosques are, if not mass-brainwashing centres?
 
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That is not what the UN resolutions call for, and it does nothing to get India to agree with a plebiscite and give Kashmiris their rights under the UN resolutions and instrument of accession conditions, which Pakistan is agreed to conducting on its territory, and therefore does not resolve the problem.

Any solution outside of the parameters of the UN resolutions needs to be arrived at through consultations between the two parties.

There hasn't been solution since 60 years... if I were a Pakistani statesman and had the power in my hands, I would have "produced" a Free Kashmir Republic, comprising AJK and GB, into the UN. This would have put India on the back foot. The only reason I would do otherwise would be because I fear them being independent.
 
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There hasn't been solution since 60 years... if I were a Pakistani statesman and had the power in my hands, I would have "produced" a Free Kashmir Republic, comprising AJK and GB, into the UN. This would have put India on the back foot. The only reason I would do otherwise would be because I fear them being independent.

Why dont assume you are a an Indian Statesman and produce A free Kashmir comprising Indian Held Kashmir. Why dont you produce a free IHK free of Indian atrocities.


AJK is only one part the other Indian Held Kashmir.

Get out of Kashmir you occupiers and let an independent Kashmir comprising all parts of it on the face of the world.
 
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If that's what you think we are doing, then its you who has a serious problem.

In any case, I don't mind insulting religion. Its useless, its a hindrance to progress.

oh pleeeeeeeas keep the religion out of the thread otherwise as per your above statement that you dont mind insulting religion then start with Hinduism and Hindutva ideology.
 
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oh pleeeeeeeas keep the religion out of the thread otherwise as per your above statement that you dont mind insulting religion then start with Hinduism and Hindutva ideology.

Learn to distinguish between "Hindu" and "Indian".
 
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It is really not about India or Pakistan.

It is about Kashmir.

The cry of Kashmir is loud and clear. They want to be part of Pakistan.

Go check your news! or is it really free press. ;)

Is Indian press free or was ever free ? I think the thread started quoting Indian newspaper wonder why such thought did not arise before about Indian press.

Syed Shah Gilani is a know Indian hater and has been blabbering about Kashmir merged with Pakistan since long Did someone wonder why he has been able to do so? Where is so called 700,000 army doing with Guns ???

Gilani and good for nothing Hurriyat do not have platform to garner support, they got this platform by goof up by Congress party. Now that they have nearly reached agreement this all will fizzle out.

Check out the title post text highlighted in RED, Read how Gilani wants to merge with Pakistan on the basis of Islam. So when members questing how it starts with mosques then Indian secularism is questioned.
 
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Why dont assume you are a an Indian Statesman and produce A free Kashmir comprising Indian Held Kashmir. Why dont you produce a free IHK free of Indian atrocities.

AJK is only one part the other Indian Held Kashmir.

Get out of Kashmir you occupiers and let an independent Kashmir comprising all parts of it on the face of the world.


We don't want a free Kashmir; that has been our de facto policy since a long time. You guys are being two-faced here...

BTW, your reply had nothing to do with my post...
 
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