We are losing the battle in Kashmir: Indian Army Commander.....!!!!

[BetterPakistan]

Kashmir is a reality and no one can stop them from getting independence. Keeping army in Indian Occupied Kashmir can be a temporary solution but it will not last long.

 

[Zain Malik]

Your Worthy opinions required:

@Zarvan , @Zibago , @Windjammer , @Manticore , @MastanKhan

 

[Levina]

Stupidly misleading title (shock) but this is the crux of the matter:





Losing the battle for the narrative doesn't translate into "losing the battle in Kashmir".

The security forces have done their job- they have sealed the LoC almost entirely and rooted out the terrorists in the state so their job (as military/security officers) is all but done. Now it is up to the civlian institutions to step in and create a prosperous state for all those who have unfortunately faced decades of unimaginable suffering thanks to a proxy war waged against India. It is now a matter of winning "hearts and minds" and it is foolish to expect security men (army or police) to be able to deliver in this regard, they are trained, equipped and drilled to fight and conquer.

This is where the problem lays- the civlian governments are simply failing in their job by not creating employment opportunities or meeting the aspirations of their constituents. This is also where Modi has made a HUGE blunder by entering into a coalition in JK, unless the GoI can pursue their devlopment agenda with full vigor in the state the problems will persist but their coalition is already proving to be ineffective and fragile hence the turmoil will continue.


+ This also, IMHO, further emphasises the need to revoke Article 370 so that JK can be connected to the rest of India and all the subsequent investment/employment opportunties this will bring.



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This article is an ideal example of how ppl are brainwashed by media.
I don't know if we have any psychology students among us but I can tell you one thing that any channel or newspaper which publishes "opinions" as truth can not be trusted.
This is for our neighbours and not you.

On topic:
Kashmir?
It works in favour of certain elements to keep kindling fire in Kashmir. So be it!
Bring it on!
Indian army will never let us down.

 

[Z-A-K]

Narender Khalsa, A Kashmiri Sikh (Human Rights Activist)Talking about ground realities

 

[Green Angel]

Reality can't be hidden for long.....

Indian Army is doing monkey dance in Kashmir.

Indian Army Commanders are Surrendering against the reality about Kashmir which doesn't belongs to them...

 

[war&peace]

KEEP DREAMING

You mean your commander is dreaming? well then that's a nightmare..

 

[GR!FF!N]

Kashmir is a reality and no one can stop them from getting independence. Keeping army in Indian Occupied Kashmir can be a temporary solution but it will not last long.

Independence of Kashmir???

And there goes AJK and Baltistan from Pakistan..what will remain of Pakistan then???

on topic...

http://www.satp.org/satporgtp/countries/india/states/jandk/data_sheets/annual_casualties.htm

yup,we lost it.Thats why terrorist attacks are getting decreased each year..

 

[prashantazazel]

We should deal with them as China deals with uighurs.

 

[Moonlight]

@Zibago @Jonah Arthur So what you say here?

 

[BetterPakistan]

Independence of Kashmir???

And there goes AJK and Baltistan from Pakistan..what will remain of Pakistan then???

Why you guys always include Pakistan in every discussion?

Pakistan has stated many times that we are ready to take our forces out from siachen if india takes it forces out so that Entire Kashmir can decide their fate. Everyday kashmir under indian control protests for independence but it doesn't happen in AJK. Azad Kashmir is open and there is no military clashes but what happens in your occupied kashmir is in front of the entire world.

As far as Gilgit Baltistan is concerned its part of Pak and will remain part of Pak. G-B is demanding from Pakistan to make it its fifth province. G-B isn't part of discussion, only kashmir is part of discussion.

India has forcefully occupied part of kashmir. Its military has kept part of Kashmir with it brutally. Don't you know how women are protesting there just because of your armed forces?

 

[Zibago]

Independence of Kashmir???

And there goes AJK and Baltistan from Pakistan..what will remain of Pakistan then???

on topic...

http://www.satp.org/satporgtp/countries/india/states/jandk/data_sheets/annual_casualties.htm

yup,we lost it.Thats why terrorist attacks are getting decreased each year..

Nope we in Azad Kashmir will renain Pakistanis and will make them Pakistanis too

 

[T-72M1]

Google Poonch state for once before spewing bs

no, I know there are some very tiny small pockets of genuine Kashmir in your slice of it but this "azad" thing is overwhelmingly Punjabi, bits of Pahari maybe, but Kashmir is in India, you have GB, punjabi north extension, and basically 0 genuine Kashmir.

 

[GR!FF!N]

Why you guys always include Pakistan in every discussion?

Pakistan has stated many times that we are ready to take our forces out from siachen if india takes it forces out so that Entire Kashmir can decide their fate. Everyday kashmir under indian control protests for independence but it doesn't happen in ***. Azad Kashmir is open and there is no military clashes there but what happens in your occupied kashmir is in front of the entire world.

As far as Gilgit Baltistan is concerned its part of Pak and will remain part of Pak. G-B is demanding from Pakistan to make it its fifth province. G-B isn't part of discussion, only kashmir is part of discussion.

India has forcefully occupied part of kashmir. Its military has kept part of Kashmir with it brutally. Don't you know how women are protesting there just because of your armed forces?

Red Part....

ufffffff...so much pain,blood and suffering..

But in Vain..Whole world knows what Pakistan is..Nobody trusts them,in fact trust and Pakistan belongs to a different universe altogether..

Now,lets come to the "No military clash in Azad Kashmir".Because we never initiated one.on the contrary,whole Kashmiri Militancy is Pakistani funded and Pakistani trained and most of the time it is Pakistani nationals who are fighting...

want to see proof???

Pakistani national,head of LET and JUD.

Maulana Masood Azhar,Pakistani National,Head of Jaish e Mohammed

Ilyas Kashmiri,Top HUJI member,Pakistani National

I've hundreds of such names,and these are icons of so called "Kashmiri Independence",unfortunately led by Pakistanis.


Now blue part,looks like history of Kashmir has started after 1950,cause your statement "Gilgit Baltistan and AJK is part of Pakistan" nearly killed me.Only a historically blind person can make such statements.Sending tribals to occupy parts of Kashmir,then assimilating it as "Integral part of Pakistan",and demanding rest of Kashmir's independence so that you can assimilate it too,damn,even bollywood movie plots will fail in front of these plots.But guess what,days of "Kashmir insurgencies " are numbered.

 

[CyberForce786]

I am kind of lazy to create my own version of these down below paragraphs written by a senior member....
i am sure @Tipu7 will not sue me for copyright....
Enjoy indians....

Hi

Whenever you donate blood, they cross match your blood group first.
If they match, the patient receive the pack of blood.

What happen when you give blood to someone whose blood group is different?
That blood kills whole body as it circulate through body via arteries and veins.

Same is case with organ donation, you cannot receive the organ in your body who is not part of you or not cross match you. If you do you are creating big trouble for you, slow painful death in which cancer start from organ and spread in entire body, ultimately killing you.


Same is situation with Kashmir and India.
It was never part of India and will never be.
Regionally, religiously, politically, historically, geographically, traditionally, socially and economically it is much close to Pakistan.

But India love to play evil guy here, for accessing land route to Middle Asia and Europe, for cutting land link of Pakistan with China, to develop strong grip over Afghanistan and Iran, to control rivers of Pakistan and to gain unbeatable strategic advantage in region, India need Kashmir, whole of it along with Gilgit and Baltistan.........

And this greed will kill India some day.
India is big country and strong too. But a strong thing is as strong as its weakest point.
And Kashmir is India weakest point.
Someday it will kill India surely but steadily. And Pakistan knows it very well .........
Cancer is already there, you need to facilitate it's spread and get the job done.......

Kashmir is MORE THAN enough to bleed India to death, all we have to do is to provide the cut and prevent blood from clotting......
final result?
First weakness, then dizziness then fainting out then extreme shivering then suffocation and ultimately a slow painful death due to wastage of excessive blood

Death of India will start from Kashmir
MARK MY WORDS ........

 

[Zibago]

no, I know there are some very tiny small pockets of genuine Kashmir in your slice of it but this "azad" thing is overwhelmingly Punjabi, bits of Pahari maybe, but Kashmir is in India, you have GB, punjabi north extension, and basically 0 genuine Kashmir.

So your Hindus pray to Punjabi Sharda Peeth hmm thats a new one
Bhimber and mirpur have pothwari speakers other districts have pahari and neelum and parts of muzzafarabad have Kashmiri speaking population
It was the bordering area of the state ofcourse it will have multiple languages and multiple ethnicities

Careful what you wish for..Part of Pakistan "Officially",means part of a "Fragile state",officially.Pakistan is in 13th in that list...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Fragile_States_Index#2015

Better than being from a country where you end up dead for eating beef and end in mass graves if you protrst against state attrocities