WB considering aid to Dhaka-Ctg high-speed train, 4 more projects

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[UKBengali]

China's high-speed rail express business. Light cargo is express delivery, not large items, such as mobile phones, clothing, cosmetics, fruits, etc. Bulk commodities are not allowed.

I think they were talking about transporting garments from Dhaka factories down to Chittagong for export through its port there.

Those cargo trains could easily be fitted in during the day as there would be more than enough spare capacity on the line that could easily run 200 trains between 6am and 10pm at night time every day down each line.

 

[从八品主簿]

I think they were talking about transporting garments from Dhaka factories down to Chittagong for export through its port there.

Those cargo trains could easily be fitted in during the day as there would be more than enough spare capacity on the line that could easily run 200 trains between 6am and 10pm at night time every day down each line.

It may be better to use expressways and freight railways than high-speed railways, unless it is particularly high-priced goods.

 

[Tom-tom]

It may be better to use expressways and freight railways than high-speed railways, unless it is particularly high-priced goods.

Good point, I didn't know High speed lines were strictly for light loads I.e ppl

How comes I have seen a freight train go past a station in London at very high or similar speeds to a high speed train. Admittedly it must have been a different line that was parallel in my line of sight.

 

[从八品主簿]

Good point, I didn't know High speed lines were strictly for light loads I.e ppl

How comes I have seen a freight train to past a station in London at very high or similar speeds to a high speed train. Admittedly it must have been a different line that was parallel in my line of sight.

Ballasted tracks are generally acceptable.

 

[UKBengali]

It may be better to use expressways and freight railways than high-speed railways, unless it is particularly high-priced goods.

No capacity on the highways and it would take 4 hours or more by truck, even when there is no traffic. 5-6 hours would be a more typical journey time.

It may take 50-60 trucks to carry the same amount of goods as a single train and it can do the same journey in 1.5 hours on the new high speed line.

 

[Tom-tom]

Ballasted tracks are generally acceptable.

OK bhia, could you delibrate, a little more. Ballasted tracks have been used for the past couple hundred yrs?

I would be wicked if a parallel was built along High speed passenger one.

I remember when those bnp party ppl were going on the news and saying why was the gov making additional electrical production, all those yrs ago... still we have bnp die hards..

 

[从八品主簿]

No capacity on the highways and it would take 4 hours or more by truck, even when there is no traffic. 5-6 hours would be a more typical journey time.

It may take 50-60 trucks to carry the same amount of goods as a single train and it can do the same journey in 1.5 hours on the new high speed line.

But high-speed rail may not be the same as freight rail. What you're talking about is closer to freight railroads.

 

[Tom-tom]

No capacity on the highways and it would take 4 hours or more by truck, even when there is no traffic. 5-6 hours would be a more typical journey time.

It may take 50-60 trucks to carry the same amount of goods as a single train and it can do the same journey in 1.5 hours on the new high speed line.

River ferry can be too much aggravation and unpredictable at times

 

[UKBengali]

But high-speed rail may not be the same as freight rail. What you're talking about is closer to freight railroads.

I am talking about light goods such as garments. Nearly all garment factories are in on around Dhaka at this time.

If BD is going to spend 11 billion US dollars on a high speed railway, then it may as well make the most of it.

Thousands of trucks a day could be replaced with some dozens of trains and that would be cheaper as the running cost of the trains would already have been paid for pretty much and would reduce congestion on the highway as well.

 

[从八品主簿]

OK bhia, could you delibrate, a little more. Ballasted tracks have been used for the past couple hundred yrs?

I would be wicked if a parallel was built along High speed passenger one.

I remember when those bnp party ppl were going on the news and saying why was the gov making additional electrical production, all those yrs ago... still we have bnp die hards..

Ballasted tracks can transport heavy goods but cannot run fast. Ballastless tracks are used for the highest level of high-speed rail. Ballasted track has a higher load carrying capacity than ballastless track. However, considering comprehensive factors, ballastless track has less follow-up costs and problems, and is most suitable for high-speed rail. For example, the maintenance cost is low, less than half of the ballasted track, The ballastless track also has the advantages of long service life, good line condition, not easy to expand the track, and no ballast splashing when driving at high speed. The ballasted track will cause the following problems: 1. The ballast splashes and hits the train, causing damage to the car body or casualties 2. Large track deformation and heavy repair workload 3. The ballast under the sleepers is pulverized rapidly, which affects driving safety Therefore, high-speed rail generally adopts ballastless track, which uses slab track bed or integral track bed, without separate sleepers, relatively stable track, less maintenance workload, and higher ride comfort.

I am talking about light goods such as garments. Nearly all garment factories are in on around Dhaka at this time.

If BD is going to spend 11 billion US dollars on a high speed railway, then it may as well make the most of it.

Thousands of trucks a day could be replaced with some dozens of trains and that would be cheaper as the running cost of the trains would already have been paid for pretty much and would reduce congestion on the highway as well.

Then we have to build a special freight high-speed rail. Generally speaking, high-speed rail is to increase the energy of railway transportation. Traditional railways have become freight rail space. High-speed rail improves passenger transportation. Freight is currently not the mainstream of high-speed rail.

 

[Tom-tom]

I am talking about light goods such as garments. Nearly all garment factories are in on around Dhaka at this time.

If BD is going to spend 11 billion US dollars on a high speed railway, then it may as well make the most of it.

Thousands of trucks a day could be replaced with some dozens of trains and that would be cheaper as the running cost of the trains would already have been paid for pretty much and would reduce congestion on the highway as well.

And stripper out carriage, with pallets filled with clothing must weigh between 100kg- 350 kg? Just a wild guess?

 

[UKBengali]

And stripper out carriage, with pallets filled with clothing must weigh between 100kg- 350 kg? Just a wild guess?

Great thing about clothing is that it is light and perfect replacement for passengers who would weigh something like 70kg each.

Those pallets will not weigh more than the passenger seats they replace.

The more you think about all the possibilities of what you can do with this line, the better it seems.

Not to mention the massive image boost it will be for both foreign tourists and business people.

Like I say, the line is a no brainer and probably the only reason that BD has not already signed the contract is the pandemic. It will probably now not be ready till 2032-2033 as it would take a full 8-10 years from contract signing till when the first trains start to carry passengers and freight.

 

[Tom-tom]

Great thing about clothing is that it is light and perfect replacement for passengers who would weigh something like 70kg each.

Those pallets will not weigh more than the passenger seats they replace.

The more you think about all the possibilities of what you can do with this line, the better it seems.

Not to mention the massive image boost it will be for both foreign tourists and business people.

Like I say, the line is a no brainer and probably the only reason that BD has not already signed the contract is the pandemic. It will probably now not be ready till 2032-2033 as it would take a full 8-10 years from contract signing till when the first trains start to carry passengers and freight.

What is wrong with my phone auto correct.

Stripped put carriage that's been modified would be best. It will keep passengers carriages in better condition.

Also Walton tv pallets, the average TV box prolly weight around 15 kg from memory.


A pallet of the about to 90-100 kg. And a few lighter pallets to average it out.

Mobiles phones it another.

Ideally it would be best to have a heavy good line running parallel to the High speed , this will facilitate more growth.

Think how long it takes to get heavy materials and good to the desired location.

From the Time it reaches bdesh port to go the desired location, that portion alone must take a couple of days planning or a headache. As bd roads are to congested, or river ferries is another head ache

 

[fallstuff]

Most of the major cities from capital city Dhaka are less than 160 mi away. There is absolutely no reason for a high-speed train running at 150+ miles plus per hour at this moment even if it is a PPP type project because of the massive interruption by the construction of the new lines.

Upgrading present lines with trains travelling at 80-90 mile an hour should suffice. A two hour travel time is fast enough for a poor country like Bangladesh.