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No one won or lost, but Pakistan was definitely very successful and inflicted much more damage to the enemy. If the NLI had more support, especially from NS's government of that time - we would've seen permanent success.
 
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No one won or lost, but Pakistan was definitely very successful and inflicted much more damage to the enemy. If the NLI had more support, especially from NS's government of that time - we would've seen permanent success.

More damage like what? Killing 500+ Indian soldiers? And according to NS your losses were 4000. After the war, all unmanned Indian posts are now guarded throughout the year. Yes you had exposed India's weakness, in fact India's stupidity of trusting Pakistan, but now that advantage of yours is lost.
 
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More damage like what? Killing 500+ Indian soldiers? And according to NS your losses were 4000. After the war, all unmanned Indian posts are now guarded throughout the year. Yes you had exposed India's weakness, in fact India's stupidity of trusting Pakistan, but now that advantage of yours is lost.
NS did not even know of the war until the last minute, he just said that afterwards to discredit and undermine the war and Musharraf.

You Indians are gullible people, to seriously think that out of the 5000 (irregular NLI) sent, only 1000 came back.

Indian lost two fighter jets, one helicopter, over 500 men dead; 1300+ wounded, most defenses on the LOC destroyed and to this day, Pakistan still retains some strategic peaks - not to mention; it costed India much more to mobilize their forces and counter-attack.

Pakistanis lost 300-400 irregular soldiers.

We achieved all this with no support from the other branches, condemnation from the Government, with minimal supplies not provided by the military or government while India used regular forces, artillery support, open supplies, aerial support and VASTLY outnumbered our forces.
 
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NS did not even know of the war until the last minute, he just said that afterwards to discredit and undermine the war and Musharraf.

You Indians are gullible people, to seriously think that out of the 5000 (irregular NLI) sent, only 1000 came back.

Indian lost two fighter jets, one helicopter, over 500 men dead; 1300+ wounded, most defenses on the LOC destroyed and to this day, Pakistan still retains some strategic peaks - not to mention; it costed India much more to mobilize their forces and counter-attack.

Pakistanis lost 300-400 irregular soldiers.

We achieved all this with no support from the other branches, condemnation from the Government, with minimal supplies not provided by the military or government while India used regular forces, artillery support, open supplies, aerial support and VASTLY outnumbered our forces.


Why don't you simply say higher altitude advantage, the same reason why Pakistan army is not able to evict a hand full of Indian soldiers from Siachin even though it is easy provide reinforcements and supports from your side than ours.

In mountain warfare the one sitting on higher altitude that too well entrenched always have greater advantage, one who is attacking from lower altitude is always expected to have large casualties. But still our men were brave enough to mount waves of attack one after another, we never stopped with the occupation of some lower ridges and became happy with that as you are doing in Siachin. LOL :p:
 
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Did u even hear what he said? He said India won the territory back but lost precious lives which according to him does not mean winning.
do you really understand what a war means ?
I'm sure dats not the poker you play ?lolzz
what he meant was , india lost that war because , pakistan brought the kashmir issue , right in front of whole world ?
which india was describing it's thier own pice of land , that's what he meant there when , telling about no tactical backup even after kargill war , it can happen some where else , pakistan lost a very very tiny soilders of its , force but india got heavy loses with no guarantees it won't happen again some where else ?

Why don't you simply say higher altitude advantage, the same reason why Pakistan army is not able to evict a hand full of Indian soldiers from Siachin even though it is easy provide reinforcements and supports from your side than ours.

In mountain warfare the one sitting on higher altitude that too well entrenched always have greater advantage, one who is attacking from lower altitude is always expected to have large casualties. But still our men were brave enough to mount waves of attack one after another, we never stopped with the occupation of some lower ridges and became happy with that as you are doing in Siachin. LOL :p:
do you have any idea how fast , posts locations changed in siachen front ?
in there , it all depends on weather !
wish you been sent ; there with a chadi ?lolzx
 
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Your Air Chief Marshal said, Pakistan started all 4 wars and lost all of them.

Do you accept it?
What wet dreamer you are:lol:give us the links kid ,in 65 yes we started a war but their was no win or loss for both parties, in 71 you invaded us not we, in 1999 you were capturing our peaks so we retaliate no win or loss for both parties and in 47 we capture a part of Kashmir and you do nothing about it thats your wins kid:lol::rofl::enjoy:
 
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What wet dreamer you are:lol:give us the links kid ,in 65 yes we started a war but their was no win or loss for both parties, in 71 you invaded us not we, in 1999 you were capturing our peaks so we retaliate no win or loss for both parties and in 47 we capture a part of Kashmir and you do nothing about it thats your wins kid:lol::rofl::enjoy:
Ok Grand Pa. few clips for you.



And finally one of your prominent Pakistani Personality...
 
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Ok Grand Pa. few clips for you.



And finally one of your prominent Pakistani Personality...
:lol::lol::lol:Good for your health . :enjoy: we lost 65 war on political grounds not militarily wise and in 71 we were in isolation state from the world due to bad governance from yahya Khan and you are backed by then superpower Soviet Union and those arguments are just personal opinions nothing more have a good night kid:p:
 
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