India compels Pakistan to make difficult choices for survival: ex Chairman Joint Chiefs of Staff Committee retired Gen Zubair Hayat

[TheSolution]

Army, PAF and PN have grown in strength and equipment in past few years. It seems that Pakistan has been able to counter all what India throws at it, which is basically a never ending saga.

Equipment is just one piece of the puzzle.

Visionary and competent leaders who can make the right decisions at the right time is just as important. A system of meritocracy that chooses people based purely on their skill and capability in their fields is most important.

Fancy equipment is useless if the minds using it are stunted low IQ individuals.

Their obsession with trying to live like kings as if they are ruling over an empire, and assert superiority over civillians says everything about their mindset. Just cheap brown versions of what the white man was in the past.

in reality, even a HS graduate is a better strategic thinker than them

I mean changing 4-5 PM in the last 6 years, can't get along with any PM, and when they come to power, we are usually in a bigger mess

why cant they accept that they are stupid af? leave it to someone else? how hard it is?

That is what I'm trying to convey here, partially hoping the right people see it and acknowledge it, these small minds are self-digging their and our graves.

The fact that they care about appearing superior to civilians with red carpets and expensive feasts tells you they are not worthy of the seats they have.

 

[TheSolution]

The modus operandi is analogous to 1971 MB infiltration, but what worked in 10 months in 1971 has not been working since 20 years now, though the forms, the tactics, the handling, the infiltration, the funding, the organization and resources keep getting changed and modernized.

If we reversed time to 1971 today, India would split you apart again, and again, and again.

The *only* reason they are struggling today is because they don't have the geographical advantage they had in 1971 and some countries are supporting you.

Still they are incredibly successful in both their information warfare (ethnic polarisation in the form of political opinion and rights advocacy) and militancy.

India has effective and well-trained, well disciplined agencies. Pakistan has pot-bellied uncles with a decent amount of funds at their disposal going where the wind takes them. You can't compare the two.

The military and ISI command requires a restructuring that rids itself of nepotism and personal bias. And the country requires an educational reform.

 

[Signalian]

Equipment is just one piece of the puzzle.

Visionary and competent leaders who can make the right decisions at the right time is just as important. A system of meritocracy that chooses people based purely on their skill and capability in their fields is most important.

Fancy equipment is useless if the minds using it are stunted low IQ individuals.

Their obsession with trying to live like kings as if they are ruling over an empire, and assert superiority over civillians says everything about their mindset. Just cheap brown versions of the what the white man was in the past.

Equipment changes doctrine, it innovates new training methods, which in turn creates new possibilities of strategies and tactics utilized in battlefield. Sometimes equipment also changes the role of the whole unit or formations, which holds true for Army, PAF and PN.

For example;

The induction of VT-4 in 6th Armored Division gives rise to training of officers and soldiers on a modern MBT, which gives commanders more flexibility of armor operations in the Northern Punjab region. The limitations of AZ MBT can now be put aside.

Strategic Level (higher ranks) :
This gives a new perspective of operations to CO, Bde Comd, GOC and Commander I-Corps, which in turn affects the MO Dte in GHQ, allowing to completely change the strategy of operational use of 1st Stike Corps along with utilization of 6th Armored Division in combat. This further means that new operational procedures will then be put in place for coordination with infantry, artillery and AD formations, since the role of Division/Corps has now been expanded. Lt Col to Lt Gen level ranks (Divsional HQ, Corps HQ and GHQ) now have to learn, train, adapt and put the operations in practicality for the new MBT. This can be seen through pics/vids of VT-4 in execrcises.

Tactical Level (Lower ranks) :
On a regimental level, the squadron commanders (Majors and below), now get the possibility to extend the limitations from AZ towards VT-4 for direct action in combat. The MBT commander including NCOs/JCOs, undergo another overhaul of training along with officers commanding the tanks. The newer tactics are then put in use through excercises (EXs) and drills. The EME units also adapt along with Engineers who will have to lay bridges and terrain clearing equipment.

 

[TheSolution]

Equipment changes doctrine, it innovates new training methods, which in turn creates new possibilities of strategies and tactics utilized in battlefield. Sometimes equipment also changes the role of the whole unit or formations, which holds true for Army, PAF and PN.

For example;

The induction of VT-4 in 6th Armored Division gives rise to training of officers and soldiers on a modern MBT, which gives commanders more flexibility of armor operations in the Northern Punjab region. The limitations of AZ MBT can now be put aside.

Strategic Level (higher ranks) :
This gives a new perspective of operations to CO, Bde Comd, GOC and Commander I-Corps, which in turn affects the MO Dte in GHQ, allowing to completely change the strategy of operational use of 1st Stike Corps along with utilization of 6th Armored Division in combat. This further means that new operational procedures will then be put in place for coordination with infantry, artillery and AD formations, since the role of Division/Corps has now been expanded. Lt Col to Lt Gen level ranks (Divsional HQ, Corps HQ and GHQ) now have to learn, train, adapt and put the operations in practicality for the new MBT. This can be seen through pics/vids of VT-4 in execrcises.

Tactical Level (Lower ranks) :
On a regimental level, the squadron commanders (Majors and below), now get the possibility to extend the limitations from AZ towards VT-4 for direct action in combat. The MBT commander including NCOs/JCOs, undergo another overhaul of training along with officers commanding the tanks. The newer tactics are then put in use through excercises (EXs) and drills. The EME units also adapt along with Engineers who will have to lay bridges and terrain clearing equipment.

That's good but the men leading, controlling, organising and strategising are just as important.

The main concern here is the lack of meritocracy due to rampant nepotism in military and ISI commands which deteriorates institutions over time, making them ineffective and less capable.

 

[Signalian]

If we reversed time to 1971 today, India would split you apart again, and again, and again.

The *only* reason they are struggling today is because they don't have the geographical advantage they had in 1971 and some countries are supporting you.

Still they are incredibly successful in both their information warfare (ethnic polarisation in the form of political opinion and rights advocacy) and militancy.

The only advantage that gave 1971a military edge is now over.

India has effective and well-trained, well disciplined agencies. Pakistan has pot-bellied uncles with a decent amount of funds at their disposal going where the wind takes them. You can't compare the two.

The military and ISI command requires a restructuring that rids itself of nepotism and personal bias. And the country requires an educational reform.

Pakistan has countered India with same effectiveness which is why TTP/BLA had taken advantage of US withdrawal through Taliban takeover to raise its head again while Pakistan has expanded Army and upgraded FC to tackle TTP and BLA.

Military and intel agencies have fared well so far, the onus had started to fall onto FC and Police who then formed CTD to tackle regional operations. The next in line is constabulary, levies and khasadars, which will hopefully improve also.

That's good but the men controlling, organising and strategising are just as important.

The main concern here is the lack of meritocracy due to rampant nepotism in military and ISI commands which deteriorates institutions over time, making them ineffective and less capable.

The Exs and trainings prove otherwise, like the example I stated.

This is why Army keeps improving tactics, strategies and trainings which goes from sepoy level to red tapers including staff in GHQ and operational commanders in the field.

 

[Signalian]

small minds are self-digging their and our graves.

Geography Vs Time (post # 14)

That should be the analysis now if you are done with whinging, existing on baseless factors.

 

[khansaheeb]

ISLAMABAD: Continuing existential challenges due to hostile neighbourhood compel Pakistan to make difficult choices for survival.

This was the crux of a discussion on the first day of Islamabad Conclave-2022 themed ‘75 Years of Independence: Achieving Comprehensive National Security’, which was hosted by Institute of Strategic Studies Islamabad (ISSI).

Former Chairman Joint Chiefs of Staff Committee retired Gen Zubair Hayat, in his keynote speech, said the threat from India, which has been reluctant to accept Pakistan’s existence and posed challenges at variety of fronts and spectrums, had not diminished.

He recalled the statements by Indian leaders in which they mentioned the 1947 partition as “a historic wrong” and “distortion of history” and more recently warned of “moving north,” which was seen here as a “blatant threat”.

He further reminded that over the past five years there were “phantom and fake” surgical strikes claim, the 2019 Balakot incident – the first attack on the mainland, and the so-called “accidental” launch of missile into the country’s heartland.


Gen Hayat said a range of conflicts was imposed on Pakistan — full scale war to insurgencies and terrorism and more recently hybrid warfare. He noted that importantly the country was well defended against those challenges except for the 1971 East Pakistan debacle.

On 1971 tragedy, he echoed former Army Chief Gen Qamar Bajwa’s line, who in one of his parting speeches, had termed the defeat in East Pakistan as a political failure rather than a military fiasco.

“In military sense there was status quo and had there been not a direct foreign intervention by India, the insurgency too would have failed,” he maintained.

Dr Adil Sultan, Dean of the Faculty of Aerospace and Strategic Studies (FASS), Air University Islamabad, said the external environment required Pakistan to maintain robust nuclear and conventional capabilities, while remaining cognizant of the limited economic resources.

He said introduction of new technologies by India like ballistic missile defence systems, Anti Satellite weapons (ASAT), hypersonic missiles, Pakistan-specific MIRV missiles, and operationalising sea-based nuclear capability were straining the deterrence.

Mr Javed Jabbar, writer and politician, called for major political and economic reforms and controlling population growth.

India compels Pakistan to make difficult choices for survival: experts

"External environment requires Pakistan to maintain robust nuclear and conventional capabilities," says expert.

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Another weapon used by Hindjews : "controlling population growth" . The problem is not the number of kids but the quality of education and opportunities to make them productive members of society. The libturds are a another serious problem in Pakistan who follow Western values and indoctrination and parrot spew the same old nonsense over and over again. They can't have it both ways to keep the people repressed and have enough skilled people to ward off India. The fools are undermining Pakistan's security by protecting their privileged status and power. Corruption is a serious threat to Pakistan's existence and those who deny it or diminish it's impact are foolish at the least and treasonous at the most.

 

[PakFactor]

Hence it’s proved again that economy is the greatest weapon.

Exactly, and the institution itself is responsible for screwing it from day one, and this ex-CJCOS is a talking fool.

 

[Olympus81]

Contrary to propaganda and self flagellation, Pakistan will continue to survive.

The Pakistani security apparatus has handled the Soviet era threat, kept the TTP and extremists at bay and made sure Balochistan is comparatively peaceful despite foreign interference. Pakistan had to deal with the spillover effects of these events, which in turn impacted its security and economic environment.

Pakistan’s greatest threat is disharmony amongst the institutions, that continue to operate outside their respective domain, economic collapse and endemic corruption.

Despite all the internal turmoil, there is a growing realization that economy is a priority and strong institutions is what will make Pakistan move forward.

 

[Mugen]

The only lanat should be on Morons like yourself who unnecessarily criticize an institution and side with our enemy

Idiots like you still don't realise what the army is doing to our country... I am sure it was similiar in 1971.