Watch banned film "India's daughter" here!

[Bang Galore]

@Bang Galore WRT legalities:
The legal violations by the “India’s Daughter” documentary

They have been ignoring notices from as early as april 2014.

I know. Their lawyers have probably told them to ignore. Poor drafting of conditions, probably won't hold up in an appellate court.

 

[MokshaVimukthi]

There was no reason for the ban. I was prone to thinking that the mentality displayed by the rapists maybe that of certain poor and backward louts who were not exposed to education or how a majority of modern day civilized humanity thinks and the values of the majority of decent people. That was until I heard the comments of the lawyers. They seem to display the same mentality as their clients. And Indians on this forum mock Pakistani lawyers who garlanded the killers of that Minister who was killed for criticizing the blasphemy laws.

That's right, those poor backward louts watch BBC all the time

 

[TejasMk3]

I know. Their lawyers have probably told them to ignore. Poor drafting of conditions, probably won't hold up in an appellate court.

then how exactly do you handle such things. People can break laws, and make documentaries, but when we shoudnt ban it. Seems like this might be more about bbc trying to see itself as being above the law and getting through with the documentary.

If he didnt go after them, the enforcement would be seen as weak, if he did, they play the FoE etc card. IMO the messaging from the govt has been incorrect here, couldve been better.

 

[PlanetWarrior]

That's right, those poor backward louts watch BBC all the time

It is for the educated to educate the uneducated. If Indians watch this documentary, they will get a glimpse of the mentality within their society. If they wake up and stand up against this kind of mentality, India can only progress on a social scale. If the government of India bans people from looking at the reality of the mentality of some people within their society, that will retard the social progress of India. Way too often whilst in India I observe young or middle aged women being harassed by men. If society doesn't stand up to this mentality, the rapes and crimes against women will continue unabated. Society can only do so if they are exposed to the reality. Silencing the reality as this ban does, will not make the problem disappear. Now that I have spelt out the essence of my message to you in a similar manner as I would do so to my 5 year old nephew, I hope that you do get the message

 

[Levina]

All those on death row have parents/wife/children. Means what?

That was Akshay Thakur's wife & child. Not Mukesh kumar's. The old parent's are his. No point in acting as if all those in jails don't have a family. I felt no sympathy for any of these chaps. The only ones who got my sympathy were the parents of the girl.

The defence lawyers are absolute scumbags.

By the time you edited your post I had already quoted your post. I guess you've most prolly misconstrued what i said in my 1st post on this thread.
When I said the documentary evokes sympathy in the audience, I didn't mean the culprits should not be hanged. Au contraire I meant that the documentary ends at a wrong note, nobody should be sympathizing with those men.
In short, govt should not have allowed the producers to make such a documentary.

 

[MokshaVimukthi]

It is for the educated to educate the uneducated. If Indians watch this documentary, they will get a glimpse of the mentality within their society. If they wake up and stand up against this kind of mentality, India can only progress on a social scale. If the government of India bans people from looking at the reality of the mentality of some people within their society, that will retard the social progress of India. Once too often whilst in India I observe young or middle aged women being harassed by men. If society doesn't stand up to this mentality, the rapes and crimes against women will continue unabated. Society can only do so if they are exposed to the reality. Silencing the reality as this ban does, will not make the problem disappear. Now that I have spelt out the essence of my message to you in a similar manner as I would do so to my 5 year old nephew, I hope that you do get the message

Ya, Indians need British BBC to help us understand our own people

It all begins to make sense now.

 

[Bang Galore]

Au contraire I meant that the documentary ends at a wrong note, nobody should be sympathizing with those men.

Don't think anybody does. Those who share his mentality should have a glimpse of where it will get them.....the death row...!

 

[lightoftruth]

The objective is to trash India. Destroy our self esteem and to destory our image in the world over.

Its not as if UK does not have a rape problem. Do you see the BBC bashing up their citizens by showcasing carefully edited clippings of fools and criminals ?

BBC is just feeding into our need for self humiliation and angst. self flagellation is the favourite pastime of Indians.

Its one of those gifts Gandhi gave us and the British has been happily helping us along that path to defeatism.

I consider India far more stronger which can look within and introspect here we are looking as if we are hiding something which can embarrass us, it only brings more embarrassment.

 

[Levina]

You have basically three Indias, stratified by money, and money only.

1/2 total population: extremely poor. That’s 500 million ppl. They squeak by somehow. Of that figure, some percentage (not really sure, I’m guessing maybe 15-20% or 75-100million ppl) are DIRT POOR. They don’t eat everyday. They may spend their entire lives browsing the public dumps for food and anything they can use at home or possibly resale.
That’s a staggering number, and more poverty than China. You may think Democracy and capitalism work better than communism and capitalism, but the experiment has already been done in India and China, and India (democracy) has lost. Capitalism will not do anything to change the poverty of these 500 million people. Why? It is not designed to, that’s why, and that is a pretty basic failure when it comes to a model on which to base an entire society.

About 450 million lower-, middle-, and upper-middle class. Yes they do the IT jobs and the service jobs (Hello, this is Krish, may I help you?) and the engineering jobs. There’s also a class that produces the arts (classical music and dance, and of course, all things Bollywood). They are not as wealthy as the tech and engineering billionaires, but they don’t have to be because those billionaires are their patrons.

Then there’s the superrich. They do what superrich people everywhere do, and are in fact better thought of as members of the global superrich society.

Yes, the caste system still exists, but in the final analysis, it’s the money that determines status.

But my point is, these are three totally different societies, even though they are all comprised of Indian people. I’d be very careful about lumping them together. My musician friends and associates are as far away from the impoverished India as I am sitting here in Seattle. In fact, they are closer to me culturally than they are to India’s poor.

Sorry but how is that related to my post? why did you quote me?

Don't think anybody does.

I think you missed the last line.
"In short, govt should not have allowed the producers to make such a documentary".

 

[PlanetWarrior]

Ya, Indians need British BBC to help us understand our own people

Whether it is the BBC or ABC or ZeeTV , who cares? Don't shoot the messenger. Address the message. That is tantamount to Arabs or Muslims saying "ISIS is innocent since it is mostly the western media who exposes their deeds". If our people wish to behave like barbarians, who cares which organization is responsible for exposing their barbarity? These rapists and their lawyers display a frightening image of India. If women are going to be exposed to this kind of mentality then the BBC and all western media have a right to warn their people and especially their women about the dangers of visiting India

 

[MokshaVimukthi]

I consider India far more stronger which can look within and introspect ,here we are looking as if we are trying to hide our society
I consider India far more stronger which can look within and introspect here we are looking as if we are hiding something which can embarrass us, it only brings more embarrassment.

Why do you wear an underwear and a pant on top of it ? Why do women wear blouse ?

It looks like we are trying to hide our own body. If we are hiding something it can only embarrasses us or bring more embarrassment.

So in short, we should all be walking around nude. Right ? After all I am sure we are are all stronger than that.

Whether it is the BBC or ABC or ZeeTV , who cares? Don't shoot the messenger. Address the message. That is tantamount to Arabs or Muslims saying "ISIS is innocent since it is mostly the western media who exposes their deeds". If our people wish to behave like barbarians, who cares which organization is responsible for exposing their barbarity? These rapists and their lawyers display a frightening image of India. If women are going to be exposed to this kind of mentality then the BBC and all western media have a right to warn their people and especially their women about the dangers of visiting India

If a messenger comes into my home bringing a message on how to raise my kids, You can BET I will shoot him.

Or at best kick him out of my house.

Indian Rapists and Lawyers are no different from Rapists and lawyers from any part of the world. Unless you think that Indians are somehow different and Westerners are somehow more superior

Take such retarded thinking to the congress, where they send their kids to be educated in england so that they can rule India. LOL.

 

[lightoftruth]

Why do you wear an underwear and a pant on top of it ? Why do women wear blouse ?

It looks like we are trying to hide our own body. If we are hiding something it can only embarrasses us or bring more embarrassment.

So in shor, we should all be walking around nude. Right ?

 

[Bang Galore]

"In short, govt should not have allowed the producers to make such a documentary".

The government could not have stopped the making of the documentary - not the interviews with the lawyers nor with the family members, either of the girl or the rapists. The only control was of the rapist who is in jail. Once that permission was given, it was pretty much out of their hands.

 

[MokshaVimukthi]

It does not get any simpler that this.

 

[Levina]

The government could not have stopped the making of the documentary - not the interviews with the lawyers nor with the family members, either of the girl or the rapists. The only control was of the rapist who is in jail. Once that permission was given, it was pretty much out of their hands.

Then am glad it was banned.