Washington is preparing to cooperate with a Gulf state instead of Turkey to manufacture F-35

[The SC]

Good reply. I don't know anything about Gulf manufacturing capabilities, just assumed that they were all lazy bums employing foreigners to do their work. Well time will tell which direction the program takes.

There are two pinned threads that will help you get some knowledge about some products and systems made in KSA and made in the UAE on the Arab defence section.. take a dip and have a good browsing there..

 

[Wilhelm II]

Fleet of F-35s (Archive)​

Combined US and Gulf sources said contracts for the supply of components of the F-35 fighter jets, which the United States deprived Turkey of, may go to a Gulf state and that negotiations began in this regard.

Sources that were not disclosed to the London-based Arab newspaper, said:
The Gulf state is concerned about the F-35 stealth fighter project and would like to take advantage of the contracts to support its emerging air industries, and which gives it an opportunity to participate in one of the most technologically advanced projects in the world.

The United States has decided to remove Turkey from the most advanced aircraft manufacturing project in the world in response to the insistence of Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan to buy and deploy the Russian S-400 system.

The F-35 modern aircraft is a major project in the NATO air force and sold to allies close to Washington.

Turkish companies currently supply 937 spare parts for the F-35, of which 400 are exclusively manufactured by Turkish companies. These companies will henceforth be prevented from receiving contracts for these items and their share of these spare parts will be transfered to companies in other countries.

Observers believe that it is easy for Washington to compensate for the role played by Turkey in the F-35 project, and the search for a new partner.

The Turkish-Russian specialist Yemtar Bishif expressed his belief that the Saudis are closely watching the Turkish agreement with Moscow. The prospect of selling these Russian systems would open the door in the highly attractive Gulf market.

https://24.ae/article/517130/واشنطن-تستعد-للتعاون-مع-دولة-خليجية-بدلاً-من-تركيا-لتصنيع-أف-35

The UAE is the main prospect..

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Great news
I think that country is UAE too
US don't sell them to Saudi
But let's dance for that

 

[Hack-Hook]

Great news
I think that country is UAE too
US don't sell them to Saudi
But let's dance for that

What if it's Qatar ? Or Oman ?

You knew Qatar certainly have the money and you knew how is it between trump and money.

 

[Wilhelm II]

What if it's Qatar ? Or Oman ?

You knew Qatar certainly have the money and you knew how is it between trump and money.

If you say money Saudi is richest
Oman is impossible because Oman have a middle and neutral policy
Qatar is not because qataris even haven't enough pilots for their huge orders if Qatar was detected that US will sell them f35 they didn't order rafale or typhoon or f15
Just two arab countries asked about potential sale of f35 Saudi and UAE and US just said to think about one of them and that is UAE
UAE stopped buying rafale typhoon su35 and others and just ordered upgrades for f16s and mirages because they know f35 is a possible issue for them

 

[hussain0216]

Pak should not buy anything from USA. They will ban you any given day....look Turkey how close Turkey was with usa. Turkey can not even buy anything for its security for its choice... Pakistan came out of this illusion long before. I can trust my worst enemy but not USA. They not trust worthy...and no one knows better then Pakistani establishment.

Only the Arabs would be daft enough to fall for this trick

 

[Hack-Hook]

If you say money Saudi is richest
Oman is impossible because Oman have a middle and neutral policy
Qatar is not because qataris even haven't enough pilots for their huge orders if Qatar was detected that US will sell them f35 they didn't order rafale or typhoon or f15
Just two arab countries asked about potential sale of f35 Saudi and UAE and US just said to think about one of them and that is UAE
UAE stopped buying rafale typhoon su35 and others and just ordered upgrades for f16s and mirages because they know f35 is a possible issue for them

Think about it ,USA can take Qatar money and made them stop Rafael order Thyphon . what is more appealing for Donald prince of orange.

What's the benefit of making UAE a partner they already made order to USA .and USA already rejected KSA .

By the way if USA can pull Oman into its sphere by making them a partner why not.im wondering which is more appealing made UAE a partner or make Qatar a partner and in the process undermine european competition ?

 

[500]

It has a major problem with its radar absorbent paint if it goes supersonic....but we dont want any American shit

Repeating same nonsense twice does not make it true.

 

[Trango Towers]

Repeating same nonsense twice does not make it true.

neither does feel sorry for me I am poor abused jew. yet you keep repeating it. try reading why its not going Mk1

 

[The SC]

If you say money Saudi is richest
Oman is impossible because Oman have a middle and neutral policy
Qatar is not because qataris even haven't enough pilots for their huge orders if Qatar was detected that US will sell them f35 they didn't order rafale or typhoon or f15
Just two arab countries asked about potential sale of f35 Saudi and UAE and US just said to think about one of them and that is UAE
UAE stopped buying rafale typhoon su35 and others and just ordered upgrades for f16s and mirages because they know f35 is a possible issue for them

As the UAE seeks a classified briefing on the F-35, the U.S. is working closely with the Emirates to establish a structure to protect this kind of information, Ellen Lord, U.S. undersecretary of defense for acquisition, technology and logistics, told Aviation Week in an interview at the Dubai Airshow.

The U.S. is “continuing to partner with the UAE on being able to release more hardware and software to them, and to some extent that’s predicated on a system to control critical information that somewhat aligns with the U.S.,” Lord said. “It’s not a question of right or wrong, it’s being able to communicate effectively and make sure we understand each other’s positions.”


https://aviationweek.com/program-management-corner/seal-f-35-deal-uae-must-agree-protect-sensitive-information

Great news
I think that country is UAE too
US don't sell them to Saudi
But let's dance for that

But there is something that tends towards Saudi Arabia.. the F-35 is the new generation to replace the F-16s..and KSA is making some parts of the F-16 without operating them..So KSA is a possibility too..

 

[CAN_TR]

Well Saudi Arabia is also buying S-400, wouldn't it be a threat for F-35?

 

[Mucahit]

As long as that Gulf state is compatible with US interests, I don't see any problem We certainly have many interest conflicts with them so, in the end, it was a good decision. Can you imagine getting the planes but you have a quarrel with the Americans in the middle of a conflict and they don't send you spare parts?

 

[CAN_TR]

As long as that Gulf state is compatible with US interests, I don't see any problem We certainly have many interest conflicts with them so, in the end, it was a good decision. Can you imagine getting the planes but you have a quarrel with the Americans in the middle of a conflict and they don't send you spare parts?

I wouldn't have anything against the 30 ordered F-35A but i would've greet the idea of 30 F-35B more, since we need it for TCG Anadolu and future TCG Trakya (most likely cancelled now)

Also 30 aircraft wouldn't disrupt our TF-X project as much as buying 120, which would totally kill it.
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It's most likely UAE who IS looking for replacing old Mirage 2000 or F-16s.

 

[Mucahit]

I wouldn't have anything against the 30 ordered F-35A but i would've greet the idea of 30 F-35B more, since we need it for TCG Anadolu and future TCG Trakya (most likely cancelled now)

Also 30 aircraft wouldn't disrupt our TF-X project as much as buying 120, which would totally kill it.
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It's most likely UAE who IS looking for replacing old Mirage 2000 or F-16s.

As far as I know, the construction of TCG Trakya has already begun but yeah without the F35B we need to create some alternatives. As for the planes themselves, after much research, they really are problematic when you consider the fact even the Americans are having logistic problems. They lost many F-22 & F-35's during the hurricanes simply because they couldn't fly them.

 

[925boy]

As long as that Gulf state is compatible with US interests, I don't see any problem We certainly have many interest conflicts with them so, in the end, it was a good decision. Can you imagine getting the planes but you have a quarrel with the Americans in the middle of a conflict and they don't send you spare parts?

WEll Gulfies are the PERFECT "partner " for US:

1) Not high competency(so there is demand for US services + goods)
2) Low military proficiency(so they always need US military know how)
3) Tons of money (so they can pay when US tells them to pay for their amazing trillion dollar, Iran defeating weapons)

 

[The SC]

WEll Gulfies are the PERFECT "partner " for US:

1) Not high competency(so there is demand for US services + goods)
2) Low military proficiency(so they always need US military know how)
3) Tons of money (so they can pay when US tells them to pay for their amazing trillion dollar, Iran defeating weapons)