Washington has passed a bill allowing children to legally be taken from their parents if their parents don’t consent to their gender transition.

[Valar.]

Even in this liberal country people haven't gone this retard.

Sooner or later they will.

Question is, what are you gonna do then?

 

[Dalit]

Sooner or later they will.

Question is, what are you gonna do then?

Like I said, many parents in The Netherlands and other European capitals are opposing this American sickness. Such nonsense always starts in the US and is consequently exported to other parts of the world. People are nowadays aware.

 

[Valar.]

Like I said, many parents in The Netherlands and other European capitals are opposing this American sickness. Such nonsense always starts in the US and is consequently exported to other parts of the world. People are nowadays aware.

What if they fail.

What will you do then?

 

[Dalit]

What if they fail.

What will you do then?

They won't fail. This isn't Pakistan where generals use force to impose their will.

 

[Valar.]

They won't fail. This isn't Pakistan where generals use force to impose their will.

Are you trying to imply Liberal west is better than Islamic Pakistan? Does it not mean liberalism is good? If it's good, shouldn't it be applied to Pakistan to make it better?

 

[Dalit]

Are you trying to imply Liberal west is better than Islamic Pakistan? Does it not mean liberalism is good? If it's good, shouldn't it be applied to Pakistan to make it better?

What I am saying is that parents won't allow their children to be brainwashed by US imported propaganda.

 

[Valar.]

What I am saying is that parents won't allow their children to be brainwashed by US imported propaganda.

But it can be said about US parents too, right? Regardless of the bill.

 

[Enigma SIG]

I picture Half Life 2 but with the Combine actually promoting LGBTQ instead of their usual genocide etc.

 

[That Guy]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1647081018556284928

This is epochtimes, a well known peddler of falsified and fake news.

Stop spreading misinformation.

@waz

You're falling for fake news, that's literally not what's going on.

This forum has become a den of fake news gleefully spread by so many people on here that it's ridiculous.

PDF is quickly falling in quality in favor of quantity.

 

[PakFactor]

So in the US of A a woman of age 15 cannot flirt with a man of 30 without the man getting called "Pedo" or a 15-year-old man in a relationship with his 30-year-old female teacher without the teacher getting jailed and told by the student's mother "My son's childhood has been lost" ( sob, sob ); a person cannot be a Communist; a person cannot be concerned about the many many homeless people living on the streets, under bridges and in bus stops; a person cannot kill a dog that had attacked him or her; a person cannot refuse to enlist in the genocidal military without getting called "Unpatriotic draft dodger" but a person can "choose" an alphabet gender at age 14, build muscles and "unburden his soul".

From the article in the tweet :

So that discounts this man sleeping on the streets of Los Angeles, home of Hollywood, richest film industry in the world :

I wish North Korea does a Red Dawn invasion of USA and brings sanity and harmony.

@Hamartia Antidote @F-22Raptor @Get Ya Wig Split @VCheng

The way you tossed in that communist line lol

 

[BHAN85]

 

[Ghareeb_Da_Baal]

I think they are taking issue with these sections/sub-sections and clauses thereof:

Washington State Legislature

app.leg.wa.gov

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If there are compelling reasons not to notify the parent, the shelter or organization must instead notify the department.
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(c) "Compelling reasons" include, but are not limited to:
(i) Circumstances that indicate that notifying the parent or
legal guardian will subject the minor to abuse or neglect as defined in RCW 26.44.020;
(ii) When a minor is seeking or receiving protected health care services.
(d) "Protected health care services" means gender-affirming treatment as defined in RCW 74.09.675 and reproductive health care services as defined in RCW 74.09.875.

(My note;
"include" by itself is a non-exhaustive term as opposed to the term "means" which is very limited in scope, so the list of reasons could be innumerable! and on top of that it specifically lays down in itself that compelling circumstances even otherwise are not limited by any means). Now, what is and what is not a compelling circumstance is a question of fact, not of law so it would be interesting how its determination would hold up at the departmental level and judicial dealing of cases if present before the courts.

 

[gambit]

At what expense though my friend? The good American people and their kids?
It just happened so fast. I long to see the return of the USA of the 80's, common sense, family values and leading the world.

All you have to do is look at the histories of other countries and you will see the same pattern of change, either enjoy or suffer the consequences, then change again...and again...

The old saying applies...

“Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times.”

The US is going thru the 'weak men' cycle. Bad ideas are being applied by weak people.

 

[jhungary]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1647081018556284928

Its Washington State, not the US....

Washington State Legislature

app.leg.wa.gov

Also, it is not exactly they can be taken away from the parent if the parent do not consent to their gender reaffirmation, but rather licensed shelter is allowed to accept runaway teens without consenting from the parent or even notify the parent of the teen.

Current law is that if a person or organisation, both licensed and unlicensed, are to receive an unaccompined minor, they have the legal requirement to notify the parent of the minor within 8 hours or they can be charge with a whole sort of crime.. This bill change the licensed shelter reporting requirement. While everything else stays the same.

While the aforementioned scenario was included in this scenario, this particular bill is actually targeting run away teens, and DID NOT give the government or licensed youth organisation to take kids from their parent

This is sensational title at its best

Place sinks further into the abyss. The democrats and liberal 'republicans' are insane.

 

[jhungary]

People these day need to read the stuff and not just counting on people to do the reading for you, that's how people get radicalised

This is the exact bill that was being passed in the Washington State senate

1 AN ACT Relating to supporting youth and young adults seeking 2 protected health care services; amending RCW 13.32A.082 and 74.15.020; and creating a new section.3 4 BE IT ENACTED BY THE LEGISLATURE OF THE STATE OF WASHINGTON: 5 NEW SECTION. Sec. 1. The legislature finds that unsheltered 6 homelessness for youth poses a serious threat to their health and 7 safety. The Trevor project has found that one in three transgender 8 youth report attempting suicide. Homelessness amongst transgender 9 youth can further endanger an already at-risk population. The 10 legislature further finds that barriers to accessing shelter can 11 place a chilling effect on exiting unsheltered homelessness and 12 therefore create additional risk and dangers for youth. Youth seeking 13 certain medical services are especially at risk and vulnerable. 14 Therefore, the legislature intends to remove barriers to accessing 15 temporary, licensed shelter accommodations for youth seeking certain 16 protected health care services. 17 Sec. 2. RCW 13.32A.082 and 2013 c 4 s 2 are each amended to read as follows:18 19 (1)(a) Except as provided in (b) of this subsection, any person, 20 unlicensed youth shelter, or runaway and homeless youth program that, ENGROSSED SUBSTITUTE SENATE BILL 5599 State of Washington 68th Legislature 2023 Regular Session By Senate Human Services (originally sponsored by Senators Liias, C. Wilson, Dhingra, Lovelett, Nguyen, and Randall) READ FIRST TIME 02/15/23. p. 1 ESSB 5599 1 without legal authorization, provides shelter to a minor and that 2 knows at the time of providing the shelter that the minor is away 3 from a lawfully prescribed residence or home without parental 4 permission, shall promptly report the location of the child to the 5 parent, the law enforcement agency of the jurisdiction in which the person lives, or the department.6 7 (b)(i) If a licensed overnight youth shelter, or another licensed 8 organization with a stated mission to provide services to homeless or 9 runaway youth and their families, shelters a child and knows at the 10 time of providing the shelter that the child is away from a lawfully 11 prescribed residence or home without parental permission, it must 12 contact the youth's parent within seventy-two hours, but preferably 13 within twenty-four hours, following the time that the youth is 14 admitted to the shelter or other licensed organization's program. The 15 notification must include the whereabouts of the youth, a description 16 of the youth's physical and emotional condition, and the 17 circumstances surrounding the youth's contact with the shelter or 18 organization. If there are compelling reasons not to notify the 19 parent, the shelter or organization must instead notify the department.20 21 (ii) At least once every eight hours after learning that a youth 22 receiving services or shelter under this section is away from home 23 without permission, the shelter or organization staff must consult 24 the information that the Washington state patrol makes publicly 25 available under RCW 43.43.510(2). If the youth is publicly listed as 26 missing, the shelter or organization must immediately notify the 27 department of its contact with the youth listed as missing. The 28 notification must include a description of the minor's physical and 29 emotional condition and the circumstances surrounding the youth's contact with the shelter or organization.30 31 (c) Reports required under this section may be made by telephone or any other reasonable means.32 33 (2) Unless the context clearly requires otherwise, the 34 definitions in this subsection apply throughout this section. 35 (a) "Shelter" means the person's home or any structure over which the person has any control.36 37 (b) "Promptly report" means to report within eight hours after 38 the person has knowledge that the minor is away from a lawfully 39 prescribed residence or home without parental permission. p. 2 ESSB 5599 1 (c) "Compelling reasons" include, but are not limited to((, 2 circumstances)): 3 (i) Circumstances that indicate that notifying the parent or 4 legal guardian will subject the minor to abuse or neglect as defined 5 in RCW 26.44.020; or 6 (ii) When a minor is seeking or receiving protected health care 7 services. 8 (d) "Protected health care services" means gender affirming 9 treatment as defined in RCW 74.09.675 and reproductive health care services as defined in RCW 74.09.875.10 11 (3) When the department receives a report under subsection (1) of 12 this section, it shall make a good faith attempt to notify the parent 13 that a report has been received and offer services designed to 14 resolve the conflict and accomplish a reunification of the family. 15 (4) Nothing in this section prohibits any person, unlicensed 16 youth shelter, or runaway and homeless youth program from immediately 17 reporting the identity and location of any minor who is away from a 18 lawfully prescribed residence or home without parental permission more promptly than required under this section.19 20 (5) Nothing in this section limits a person's duty to report 21 child abuse or neglect as required by RCW 26.44.030 or removes the 22 requirement that the law enforcement agency of the jurisdiction in 23 which the person lives be notified. 24 Sec. 3. RCW 74.15.020 and 2021 c 176 s 5239 are each amended to read as follows:25 26 The definitions in this section apply throughout this chapter and 27 RCW 74.13.031 unless the context clearly requires otherwise. 28 (1) "Agency" means any person, firm, partnership, association, 29 corporation, or facility which receives children, expectant mothers, 30 or persons with developmental disabilities for control, care, or 31 maintenance outside their own homes, or which places, arranges the 32 placement of, or assists in the placement of children, expectant 33 mothers, or persons with developmental disabilities for foster care 34 or placement of children for adoption, and shall include the 35 following irrespective of whether there is compensation to the agency 36 or to the children, expectant mothers, or persons with developmental disabilities for services rendered:37 38 (a) "Child-placing agency" means an agency which places a child 39 or children for temporary care, continued care, or for adoption; p. 3 ESSB 5599 1 (b) "Community facility" means a group care facility operated for 2 the care of juveniles committed to the department under RCW 3 13.40.185. A county detention facility that houses juveniles 4 committed to the department under RCW 13.40.185 pursuant to a 5 contract with the department is not a community facility; 6 (c) "Crisis residential center" means an agency which is a 7 temporary protective residential facility operated to perform the 8 duties specified in chapter 13.32A RCW, in the manner provided in RCW 43.185C.295 through 43.185C.310;9 10 (d) "Emergency respite center" is an agency that may be commonly 11 known as a crisis nursery, that provides emergency and crisis care 12 for up to seventy-two hours to children who have been admitted by 13 their parents or guardians to prevent abuse or neglect. Emergency 14 respite centers may operate for up to twenty-four hours a day, and 15 for up to seven days a week. Emergency respite centers may provide 16 care for children ages birth through seventeen, and for persons 17 eighteen through twenty with developmental disabilities who are 18 admitted with a sibling or siblings through age seventeen. Emergency 19 respite centers may not substitute for crisis residential centers or 20 HOPE centers, or any other services defined under this section, and 21 may not substitute for services which are required under chapter 13.32A or 13.34 RCW;22 23 (e) "Foster family home" means an agency which regularly provides 24 care on a twenty-four hour basis to one or more children, expectant 25 mothers, or persons with developmental disabilities in the family 26 abode of the person or persons under whose direct care and 27 supervision the child, expectant mother, or person with a developmental disability is placed;28 29 (f) "Group-care facility" means an agency, other than a foster 30 family home, which is maintained and operated for the care of a group 31 of children on a twenty-four hour basis. "Group care facility" includes but is not limited to:32 33 (i) Qualified residential treatment programs as defined in RCW 13.34.030;34 35 (ii) Facilities specializing in providing prenatal, postpartum, or parenting supports for youth; and36 37 (iii) Facilities providing high quality residential care and 38 supportive services to children who are, or who are at risk of becoming, victims of sex trafficking;39 p. 4 ESSB 5599 1 (g) "HOPE center" means an agency licensed by the secretary to 2 provide temporary residential placement and other services to street 3 youth. A street youth may remain in a HOPE center for thirty days 4 while services are arranged and permanent placement is coordinated. 5 No street youth may stay longer than thirty days unless approved by 6 the department and any additional days approved by the department 7 must be based on the unavailability of a long-term placement option. 8 A street youth whose parent wants him or her returned to home may 9 remain in a HOPE center until his or her parent arranges return of 10 the youth, not longer. All other street youth must have court 11 approval under chapter 13.34 or 13.32A RCW to remain in a HOPE center up to thirty days;12 13 (h) "Maternity service" means an agency which provides or 14 arranges for care or services to expectant mothers, before or during 15 confinement, or which provides care as needed to mothers and their infants after confinement;16 17 (i) "Resource and assessment center" means an agency that 18 provides short-term emergency and crisis care for a period up to 19 seventy-two hours, excluding Saturdays, Sundays, and holidays to 20 children who have been removed from their parent's or guardian's care by child protective services or law enforcement;21 22 (j) "Responsible living skills program" means an agency licensed 23 by the secretary that provides residential and transitional living 24 services to persons ages sixteen to eighteen who are dependent under 25 chapter 13.34 RCW and who have been unable to live in his or her 26 legally authorized residence and, as a result, the minor lived 27 outdoors or in another unsafe location not intended for occupancy by 28 the minor. Dependent minors ages fourteen and fifteen may be eligible 29 if no other placement alternative is available and the department approves the placement;30 31 (k) "Service provider" means the entity that operates a community facility.32 (2) "Agency" shall not include the following:33 34 (a) Persons related to the child, expectant mother, or person 35 with developmental disability in the following ways: 36 (i) Any blood relative, including those of half-blood, and 37 including first cousins, second cousins, nephews or nieces, and 38 persons of preceding generations as denoted by prefixes of grand, great, or great-great;39 40 (ii) Stepfather, stepmother, stepbrother, and stepsister; p. 5 ESSB 5599 1 (iii) A person who legally adopts a child or the child's parent 2 as well as the natural and other legally adopted children of such 3 persons, and other relatives of the adoptive parents in accordance with state law;4 5 (iv) Spouses of any persons named in (a)(i), (ii), or (iii) of 6 this subsection (2), even after the marriage is terminated; 7 (v) Relatives, as named in (a)(i), (ii), (iii), or (iv) of this 8 subsection (2), of any half sibling of the child; or 9 (vi) Extended family members, as defined by the law or custom of 10 the Indian child's tribe or, in the absence of such law or custom, a 11 person who has reached the age of eighteen and who is the Indian 12 child's grandparent, aunt or uncle, brother or sister, brother-in-law 13 or sister-in-law, niece or nephew, first or second cousin, or 14 stepparent who provides care in the family abode on a twenty-four15 hour basis to an Indian child as defined in 25 U.S.C. Sec. 1903(4); 16 (b) Persons who are legal guardians of the child, expectant 17 mother, or persons with developmental disabilities; 18 (c) Persons who care for a neighbor's or friend's child or 19 children, with or without compensation, where the parent and person 20 providing care on a twenty-four-hour basis have agreed to the 21 placement in writing and the state is not providing any payment for the care;22 23 (d) A person, partnership, corporation, or other entity that 24 provides placement or similar services to exchange students or 25 international student exchange visitors or persons who have the care of an exchange student in their home;26 27 (e) A person, partnership, corporation, or other entity that 28 provides placement or similar services to international children who 29 have entered the country by obtaining visas that meet the criteria 30 for medical care as established by the United States citizenship and 31 immigration services, or persons who have the care of such an international child in their home;32 33 (f) Schools, including boarding schools, which are engaged 34 primarily in education, operate on a definite school year schedule, 35 follow a stated academic curriculum, accept only school-age children and do not accept custody of children;36 37 (g) Hospitals licensed pursuant to chapter 70.41 RCW when 38 performing functions defined in chapter 70.41 RCW, nursing homes 39 licensed under chapter 18.51 RCW and assisted living facilities licensed under chapter 18.20 RCW;40 p. 6 ESSB 5599 (h) Licensed physicians or lawyers;1 2 (i) Facilities approved and certified under chapter 71A.22 RCW; 3 (j) Any agency having been in operation in this state ten years 4 prior to June 8, 1967, and not seeking or accepting moneys or 5 assistance from any state or federal agency, and is supported in part by an endowment or trust fund;6 7 (k) Persons who have a child in their home for purposes of 8 adoption, if the child was placed in such home by a licensed child9 placing agency, an authorized public or tribal agency or court or if 10 a replacement report has been filed under chapter 26.33 RCW and the placement has been approved by the court;11 12 (l) An agency operated by any unit of local, state, or federal 13 government or an agency licensed by an Indian tribe pursuant to RCW 74.15.190;14 15 (m) A maximum or medium security program for juvenile offenders 16 operated by or under contract with the department; 17 (n) An agency located on a federal military reservation, except 18 where the military authorities request that such agency be subject to the licensing requirements of this chapter;19 20 (o)(i) A host home program, and host home, operated by a tax 21 exempt organization for youth not in the care of or receiving 22 services from the department, if that program: (A) Recruits and 23 screens potential homes in the program, including performing 24 background checks on individuals over the age of eighteen residing in 25 the home through the Washington state patrol or equivalent law 26 enforcement agency and performing physical inspections of the home; 27 (B) screens and provides case management services to youth in the 28 program; (C) obtains a notarized permission slip or limited power of 29 attorney from the parent or legal guardian of the youth authorizing 30 the youth to participate in the program and the authorization is 31 updated every six months when a youth remains in a host home longer 32 than six months, unless there is a compelling reason to not contact 33 the parent or guardian; (D) obtains insurance for the program through 34 an insurance provider authorized under Title 48 RCW; (E) provides 35 mandatory reporter and confidentiality training; and (F) registers with the secretary of state under RCW 74.15.315.36 37 (ii) For purposes of this section, ((a "host)) the following 38 definitions apply: p. 7 ESSB 5599 1 (A) "Host home" ((is)) means a private home that volunteers to 2 host youth in need of temporary placement that is associated with a host home program.3 4 (((iii) For purposes of this section, a "host)) (B) "Host home 5 program" is a program that provides support to individual host homes 6 and meets the requirements of (o)(i) of this subsection. 7 (((iv))) (C) "Compelling reason" means the youth is in the host 8 home or seeking placement in a host home while seeking or receiving 9 protected health care services. 10 (D) "Protected health care services" means gender affirming 11 treatment as defined in RCW 74.09.675 and reproductive health care 12 services as defined in RCW 74.09.875. 13 (iii) Any host home program that receives local, state, or 14 government funding shall report the following information to the 15 office of homeless youth prevention and protection programs annually 16 by December 1st of each year: The number of children the program 17 served, why the child was placed with a host home, and where the 18 child went after leaving the host home, including but not limited to 19 returning to the parents, running away, reaching the age of majority, or becoming a dependent of the state;20 21 (p) Receiving centers as defined in RCW 7.68.380. 22 (3) "Department" means the department of children, youth, and families.23 24 (4) "Juvenile" means a person under the age of twenty-one who has 25 been sentenced to a term of confinement under the supervision of the department under RCW 13.40.185.26 27 (5) "Performance-based contracts" or "contracting" means the 28 structuring of all aspects of the procurement of services around the 29 purpose of the work to be performed and the desired results with the 30 contract requirements set forth in clear, specific, and objective 31 terms with measurable outcomes. Contracts may also include provisions 32 that link the performance of the contractor to the level and timing of the reimbursement.33 34 (6) "Probationary license" means a license issued as a 35 disciplinary measure to an agency that has previously been issued a 36 full license but is out of compliance with licensing standards. 37 (7) "Requirement" means any rule, regulation, or standard of care to be maintained by an agency.38 39 (8) "Secretary" means the secretary of the department. p. 8 ESSB 5599 1 (9) "Street youth" means a person under the age of eighteen who 2 lives outdoors or in another unsafe location not intended for 3 occupancy by the minor and who is not residing with his or her parent or at his or her legally authorized residence.4 5 (10) "Transitional living services" means at a minimum, to the extent funds are available, the following:6 7 (a) Educational services, including basic literacy and 8 computational skills training, either in local alternative or public 9 high schools or in a high school equivalency program that leads to obtaining a high school equivalency degree;10 11 (b) Assistance and counseling related to obtaining vocational 12 training or higher education, job readiness, job search assistance, and placement programs;13 14 (c) Counseling and instruction in life skills such as money 15 management, home management, consumer skills, parenting, health care, 16 access to community resources, and transportation and housing options;17 (d) Individual and group counseling; and18 19 (e) Establishing networks with federal agencies and state and 20 local organizations such as the United States department of labor, 21 employment and training administration programs including the 22 workforce innovation and opportunity act which administers private 23 industry councils and the job corps; vocational rehabilitation; and volunteer programs.24 --- END ---

Or read the formatted one here

https://lawfilesext.leg.wa.gov/biennium/2023-24/Pdf/Bills/Senate%20Bills/5599-S.E.pdf?q=20230415192309

It never even mentioned anyone can legally take kids away from parents. In fact, if the parents have declared the child missing, the organisation would then have the responsibility to notify the department or state trooper they have the childin question.

The child has to be actively sought shelter in these organisations, otherwise the same stuff applies to kidnapping and harbouring a child and child endangerment do applies.