Was Russia enticed to invade Ukarine?

[Oldman1]

Ukrainian military and people are being held as hostages by the incumbent Ukrainian regime.

Ooooh, so that makes sense why Putin is asking the Ukrainian military to overthrow their own government. Did you see that happened after that speech?

 

[Abdul Rehman Majeed]

Ooooh, so that makes sense why Putin is asking the Ukrainian military to overthrow their own government. Did you see that happened after that speech?

Ukrainian president agreed to talk to Russia to avoid a coup.

 

[Oldman1]

Ukrainian president agreed to talk to Russia to avoid a coup.

Putin should have thought of that in the first place before sending an invasion force if he can do it with a coup.

 

[Abdul Rehman Majeed]

Putin should have thought of that in the first place before sending an invasion force if he can do it with a coup.

Putin initially wanted to conduct joint military training exercises with Belarus but then extended them to include Ukrainian military as well.

 

[Oldman1]

Putin initially wanted to conduct joint military training exercises with Belarus but then extended them to include Ukrainian military as well.

Guess the Ukrainian military must have forgotten that invitation.

 

[Tshering22]

USA's soft underbelly is its internal politics: lack of medical facilities, lack of infrastructure upgradation, basically a general disregard for their citizen's well being. they also leak a LOT of money on defense development and procurement, that is perhaps because they have a lot of it, and do not face a challenge as of yet.

You are talking as if their citizens care. Most of them are so brainwashed they are abusing everyone who has a different opinion than their government's. They would rather prefer medical bankruptcy and broken infrastructure than question their corporate-funded government's policies or even second-guess them.

As most members here know, we are on the receiving end for being neutral. But so is UAE.

 

[MH.Yang]

Regardless of the outcome of the war, China and USA are the winners.
USA can strengthen its control over Europe and use western Ukrainian guerrillas to continue to weaken Russia.
China can integrate Russia into China's economic circle and ensure energy security, and the EU will be more reluctant to stimulate China and ensure its influence on Russia through China.
The EU must be a loser, capital outflows, refugee flows, economic concessions to USA in exchange for security and so on, these are unavoidable.
It is still difficult to determine whether Russia will win or lose, but Russia's expansion of East Ukraine will raise nationalist sentiment in Russia. Seizing territory in the eyes of nationalists is a great political success, which is undoubtedly conducive to Putin's rule, but it will also tie Putin to the chariot of nationalists, The huge victory will prompt them to put forward the political demand to restore the traditional border of Czar Russia. This will lead to a significant increase in the difficulty for Putin to control Russia's state machine and a smaller space for diplomatic maneuver.

 

[Oldman1]

Since it looks like Belarus is going to help invade Ukraine by sending their own forces in, I said that pretty much sums up how crappy the situation is now. Getting Belarus to join is just making things even worse and change the minds of the Ukrainians even more!

 

[tower9]

Regardless of the outcome of the war, China and USA are the winners.
USA can strengthen its control over Europe and use western Ukrainian guerrillas to continue to weaken Russia.
China can integrate Russia into China's economic circle and ensure energy security, and the EU will be more reluctant to stimulate China and ensure its influence on Russia through China.
The EU must be a loser, capital outflows, refugee flows, economic concessions to USA in exchange for security and so on, these are unavoidable.
It is still difficult to determine whether Russia will win or lose, but Russia's expansion of East Ukraine will raise nationalist sentiment in Russia. Seizing territory in the eyes of nationalists is a great political success, which is undoubtedly conducive to Putin's rule, but it will also tie Putin to the chariot of nationalists, The huge victory will prompt them to put forward the political demand to restore the traditional border of Czar Russia. This will lead to a significant increase in the difficulty for Putin to control Russia's state machine and a smaller space for diplomatic maneuver.

Europeans are so brainwashed by the Zionists that they won’t even know they are losers in this agenda.

 

[MH.Yang]

Europeans are so brainwashed by the Zionists that they won’t even know they are losers in this agenda.

I don't think it has much to do with Jews. The biggest problem is that NATO and the EU have weakened the independence sovereignty of Germany and France. The performance of EU countries in this crisis is like a joke. If Germany and France have complete independent sovereignty, the problem can be solved by sending foreign ministers to sign another Molotov Ribbentrop secret treaty with Russia and dividing the sphere of influence in Eastern Europe.

BTW: I once again lament that although Biden often poops on his pants, he is indeed more vicious and vicious than trump in geopolitics. Trump can not think of such a means of using Russia to force Europe to obey USA. Trump will only use the power of USA to work alone, dissolve the TPP, provoke Europe, provoke a trade war and so on. I hope that trump will win the election again in 2024.

 

[tower9]

I don't think it has much to do with Jews. The biggest problem is that NATO and the EU have weakened the independence sovereignty of Germany and France. The performance of EU countries in this crisis is like a joke. If Germany and France have complete independent sovereignty, the problem can be solved by sending foreign ministers to sign another Molotov Ribbentrop secret treaty with Russia and dividing the sphere of influence in Eastern Europe.

Nato and the US are run by the zionist cabal.

 

[jamahir]

The strength of the US is her ability to keep her citizens as dumb as possible and preoccupied with some sport or reality show.

Yes, it's so much more convenient for successive American governments to keep the citizens preoccupied and unquestioning with baseball, boxing, wrestling, Keeping up with the Kardashians, motorcycle gangs, car races and mindless / needless jobs than having to deal with aware and awake citizens who question about why the governments spend 700+ billion dollars as the military budget just for 2020-21 towards maintaining a military that goes about the world invading other countries while within their own country there are homeless people and generally the non-rich classes having to become indebted if they go through health treatment or put their family through education.

Neither the Russians see Ukrainians as their enemy nor Ukrainians see Russians as their enemy. Racially and culturally they are the same.

They fought together against the Nazis in WWII and then the NATO during the cold war.

This war is being thrust on them but the incumbent Ukrainian regime propped up by NATO.

Well, one of the objectives of the Russian incursion is to de-Nazify which essentially not only means acting against the current Nazis like Azov Battalion but also followers of, as I could make out, the followers of Stepan Bandera, the collaborator leader of Hitler's Nazis in Ukraine. Bandera was not only an agent of Hitler but also an anti-Communist agent for British Intelligence. For his crimes the KGB poisoned him with cyanide gas while in jail. In the present, Azov Battalion did crimes against the Russian speakers of Donetsk.

Ooooh, so that makes sense why Putin is asking the Ukrainian military to overthrow their own government. Did you see that happened after that speech?

Turns out many Ukranian military units are surrendering and when the Snake Island unit of 83 soldiers surrendered / was arrested and was treated well by the Russians the Ukrainian government didn't acknowledge their alive status and instead declared them dead and used them for propaganda.

 

[Goenitz]

Nobody enticed the Russians. They have been planning for this for a while, Trump was supposed to cut off supplies to Ukraine including missiles.

Did US help Georgia? or in 2014 war?

Not to mention thousands of volunteers coming from around the world to join the fight.

That is state sponsored suicide.

The Ukrainians are resisting and not welcoming the Russian Army with open arms like you see in Crimea

Sure, but the interaction between soldiers and civilians is not hostile either.

Wait for this channel to upload. Anyway, I totally forgot the people protesting in Kaziqistan, another Russian soft belly.

https://www.youtube.com/c/CaspianReport

 

[Enigma SIG]

Without gas there will be many deaths but mainly the routine life will be disturbed. The office, resturants, malls etc will be cold and unsafe for work as Health and Safety regulations. I think it is 22C work temperature, wheras ambient is 10 C nowadasy.

 

[Goenitz]

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Sorry man. not familiar with the reference