Was it actually Pakistan !!!!

[karan.1970]

No doubt about that, that Mumbai Attack was India`s own made drama against Pakistan. That was Congress & RAW`s productions. Maybe VHP & BJP too were involve with it.

Yeah! and Kayani is responsible for sponsoring TTP to get army more power setting the stage for a military coup. . Get real dude...

 

[thebrownguy]

No doubt about that, that Mumbai Attack was India`s own made drama against Pakistan. That was Congress & RAW`s productions. Maybe VHP & BJP too were involve with it.

Dont you ever follow the news or current events. Man I feel sory for you. You will forever beat he same RAW, CIA, Mossad, NASA, KFC conspiracy theory drums, just by listening to some fool on television or youtube. Please invest in a good newspaper.

 

[SMC]

You are simply in denial.. I have listed just 4 but can come up with 10 more.. I however believe both situations are conspiracy theories and are as similar as it gets.. You can choose to believe otherwise.

"denial", denial about believing the two are vastly different? If that's what you're claiming, then yes, however the problem is that you're really the one in denial about the two being vastly different. Anyone with a speck of a brain should be able to see who gains what and who losses what and realize the massive difference between the two yet you choose to deny the obvious. And if that's what you wanna do, by all means.

And I doubt about your capability to come up with 10 more difference since some of the ones you came up with were just variants of others (for instance, your 5th point was just a variant of the 2nd). These are the only gains indians have EVER listed were already listed by you.

 

[SMC]

Ok.. I didnt realize you were calling 5 years as several years since in terms of macro economics a 5 year run is a fairly small period. Specially if 2 out of those 5 are on a declining trend. My bad..

5 years is quite a bit of time. Anyone I see discussing economics on other forums call 5 years a decent amount of time. And it's irrelevant if they were on a declining trend since it still falls in the range.

 

[karan.1970]

5 years is quite a bit of time. Anyone I see discussing economics on other forums call 5 years a decent amount of time. And it's irrelevant if they were on a declining trend since it still falls in the range.

Dude.. An economy going well till 2007 suddenly does not become bankrupt over night, like Pakistan became in 2008. The trends were there to see. When you peak in 2005 at 7% growth, the momentum carries you thru for a couple of years before the penny drops.. And thats what happenend with Pakistan..And in economy, 5 years is a blink

 

[karan.1970]

"denial", denial about believing the two are vastly different? If that's what you're claiming, then yes, however the problem is that you're really the one in denial about the two being vastly different. Anyone with a speck of a brain should be able to see who gains what and who losses what and realize the massive difference between the two yet you choose to deny the obvious. And if that's what you wanna do, by all means.

And I doubt about your capability to come up with 10 more difference since some of the ones you came up with were just variants of others (for instance, your 5th point was just a variant of the 2nd). These are the only gains indians have EVER listed were already listed by you.

As I said, I dont want to waste time on thinking up reasons PA would sponsor TTP since I believe that is as big a conspiracy theory as 26/11 being an Indian operation. I dont believe either.. Please feel free to believe what you want..

 

[sur]

Indian Drama of "Mumbai" Attacks

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(1)Two of alleged "Pakistani" terrorists talking in typical "Indian" accent. Like one says "كهالى"(meaning "empty") which is typical of Indian accent to pronunce "خالى" as "كهالى".
"Khali ho giya hay nahi toe char-panch soo admi ko mar daltay"... how real

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(2)Actor screems long after last shot was fired ...&... just before bringing his "bleeding" hand in front of camera.
Then keeps running around showing his hand to cameramen to get it maximum coverage.
Someone pulls actor by arm to bring his hand in camera's view. so that camera can have a better shot.

= = = = = = = = = = = =
(3) Asian Tribune:- India, Backed By Mosaad & CIA, Plans To Attack Pakistan Nuclear Installations Using Taliban
Quote:-

Circumstantial evidences and confession of Baitullah’s ex-aides (Haji Turkistan and slain Qari Zainuddin) had confirmed that TTP is much more than what appears in the world media ... that TTP is foreign funded proxy force operating inside Pakistan to fulfill agenda of Pakistan ’s enemies ... CIA and its agents in international media are building a case against Pakistani nuclear weapons advocating the notion that these might fall into wrong hands ... During recent operation in Malakand and FATA bodies of dead Afghan nationalists (Most probably trained by same Indian and Israeli instructors) were recovered. ... ISI provided information about Baitullah’s whereabouts, at least twice in May 2008, but CIA never attacked his hideouts. Now when Pakistan army has decided to take him out at its own, CIA has suddenly discovered that he is the biggest enemy of US. ...

& indeed!!!It's India via it's 18 consulates in Afghanistan with help from CIA, MI-6 & ofcourse Mosad. Using & buying poor Afghanis & some fenatic Pakistanis to carry-out these bombings.
These un-circumcised terrorists killed by Pakistan forces were indian agents as NO "real" muslim fighting to implement islamic laws would like to stay un-circumcised himself.
WARNING - Explicit content - Following link contains Naked photos of terrorists killed by Pak forces.
http://pakalert.wordpress.com/2009/0...hting-in-swat/
& an example of such disguised agents was British agents caught by Iraqi police dressed as terrorists & shooting at innocent civilians.
Article
VIDEO
& to keep anymore of their secrets from getting exposed, British forces raided Iraqi jail & freed their secret agents.

Article


(4) It was alleged that ALL terrorists came from Pakistan via sea on a boat. Listen to this terrorist he himself said he was from Indian Haiderabad-Dakan & NOT from Pakistani Haiderabad.

Listen to this another terrorist speaking in typical Indian accent & speaking words of Hindi:-

Example of hindi words he spoke are:-(This is NOT the Pakistani language)
shanti, pershasin, pariwar, itihaas, seena, aatink-waad etc.
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(5)Satelite phone caught

I don't see any hint of these Phone #s being Pakistani......!!!!!
(Listen to newscaster saying "These numbers go back to Pakistan Jalalabad......"WHAT????? Jalalabad is in Afghanistan knuckle head.)
Where's the city & country codes??? Lets Suppose this phone doesn't show country/city codes......
Karachi & Lahore numbers were 7-digit numbers when these attacks happened. While numbers on this satellite-phone screen are 8-digited. Karachi's & Lahore's numbers are made 8-digited starting from July-1st-2009. Even then 7-digits numbers will keep working from July-1 till Sep-30-2009(Link).
If someone is thinking these might be cell phone #s....!! Pakistani cell phone numbers are like this 0123-1234567 i.e., they are 11 digits in total & if u exclude company code(0123) then they are 7-digited.
While Mumbai(India) #s were switched to 8-digits in 2002......(Link)
As r the #s on phone, while allegedly being of Jalalabad...!!!
= = = = = = = = = = = =
(6)u heard terrorist in video in above post that they had grudge against Indian attrosities like Gujrat Massacre & Babri Mosque, that's why they were doing this......
.......While this eye-witness tells they had grudge against America & Britian..... & they were looking for someone with british or american passports..... Similarly they choose to attack Jewish center.

Actually these were indian agents trying to get USA/UK/Israel turn against pakistan & to get their sympathies.
Also notice that above eyewitness & this one both Britishers are having their faces blackened with somesort of soot or make-up may be.....!!!! Too much stress by media on witnesses being Foeigners,,,

(7)
Indians follow American method of killing their own ppl & blame it on someone else.....
Search USS Liberty... The US Navy ship attacked by israelis by will of US president to blame it on Egypt........ Russians witnessed the attack so they had to change the plan.....
Alex Jones with Webster Tarpley,

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(8)India has more consulates in Afghanistan than in USA...!!! WHY? What are they all doing there??? They are cover for R.A.W to operate. R.A.W pays monthly salaries of 10 to 20 thousand rupees to these combatants to fight against Pakistan.
Like this one:-

On information given by following Behraam khan another arrest was made of Moosa Khan....(Next video)
Moosa Khan:-

3 more R.A.W agents arrested:-

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(9)I posted a video of an actor running around with his injured" hand....
Here's Another "ACTOR", with heavily plastered-painless hand, look how he explains everything using that injured hand...... moving fingers..... this plaster is put on for fractured/dislocated bones, which are extremely painful on movements...... u can NOT move ur hand like this with fractured bones even if u r on high dose morphine.....

This reminds me of a british ACTOR with flimsy bandage on......eyewitness account

(110)He has been in custody of indian forces since 2006..... He was trained by RAW for this drama

1st video above shows interview of an N.G.O lawyer who filed the case in NEPAL about his abduction by indian forces from NEPAL......


RAW is holding even more Pakistanis which they "implant" in different attacks inside india & then show their Pakistani I.Ds to blame Pakistan...


Remember 2001 parliment attack & Gujrat massacre????
It was blamed on Pakistan & Muslims respectively, only to be exposed later by indian own police like Kurkary etc that it was work of indian agencies.........


Kurkary proved that the TRAIN was NOT set on fire by muslims rather by an indian army officer & his men...... search it u pigeon, open ur eyes , cat it about to scratch u too.....


Why those "terrorists" entring india secretly, would take their PASSPORTs to india???

 

[ARCHON]

Indian Drama of "Mumbai" Attacks

=================
(1)Two of alleged "Pakistani" terrorists talking in typical "Indian" accent. Like one says "كهالى"(meaning "empty") which is typical of Indian accent to pronunce "خالى" as "كهالى".
"Khali ho giya hay nahi toe char-panch soo admi ko mar daltay"... how real
YouTube- mumbai terror attack( terrorist says he wants to live)
= = = = = = = = = = = =
(2)Actor screems long after last shot was fired ...&... just before bringing his "bleeding" hand in front of camera.
Then keeps running around showing his hand to cameramen to get it maximum coverage.
Someone pulls actor by arm to bring his hand in camera's view. so that camera can have a better shot.
YouTube - Mumbai Militants Drive-By Shooting - 30 sec of horror caught on tape
= = = = = = = = = = = =
(3) Asian Tribune:- India, Backed By Mosaad & CIA, Plans To Attack Pakistan Nuclear Installations Using Taliban
Quote:-

& indeed!!!It's India via it's 18 consulates in Afghanistan with help from CIA, MI-6 & ofcourse Mosad. Using & buying poor Afghanis & some fenatic Pakistanis to carry-out these bombings.
These un-circumcised terrorists killed by Pakistan forces were indian agents as NO "real" muslim fighting to implement islamic laws would like to stay un-circumcised himself.
WARNING - Explicit content - Following link contains Naked photos of terrorists killed by Pak forces.
http://pakalert.wordpress.com/2009/0...hting-in-swat/
& an example of such disguised agents was British agents caught by Iraqi police dressed as terrorists & shooting at innocent civilians.
Article
VIDEO
& to keep anymore of their secrets from getting exposed, British forces raided Iraqi jail & freed their secret agents.
YouTube - BBC - UK soldiers storm prison free provocateurs kill police
Article


(4) It was alleged that ALL terrorists came from Pakistan via sea on a boat. Listen to this terrorist he himself said he was from Indian Haiderabad-Dakan & NOT from Pakistani Haiderabad.
YouTube- India TV Showing False News About Mumbai Terror Attack,
Listen to this another terrorist speaking in typical Indian accent & speaking words of Hindi:-
YouTube- Terrorist calling himself Imran Babar speaks to India tv1.flv
Example of hindi words he spoke are:-(This is NOT the Pakistani language)
shanti, pershasin, pariwar, itihaas, seena, aatink-waad etc.
= = = = = = = = = = =
(5)Satelite phone caughtYouTube - Phone Shows Pakistani Numbers Dialled - Mumbai Attacks
I don't see any hint of these Phone #s being Pakistani......!!!!!
(Listen to newscaster saying "These numbers go back to Pakistan Jalalabad......"WHAT????? Jalalabad is in Afghanistan knuckle head.)
Where's the city & country codes??? Lets Suppose this phone doesn't show country/city codes......
Karachi & Lahore numbers were 7-digit numbers when these attacks happened. While numbers on this satellite-phone screen are 8-digited. Karachi's & Lahore's numbers are made 8-digited starting from July-1st-2009. Even then 7-digits numbers will keep working from July-1 till Sep-30-2009(Link).
If someone is thinking these might be cell phone #s....!! Pakistani cell phone numbers are like this 0123-1234567 i.e., they are 11 digits in total & if u exclude company code(0123) then they are 7-digited.
While Mumbai(India) #s were switched to 8-digits in 2002......(Link)
As r the #s on phone, while allegedly being of Jalalabad...!!!
= = = = = = = = = = = =
(6)u heard terrorist in video in above post that they had grudge against Indian attrosities like Gujrat Massacre & Babri Mosque, that's why they were doing this......
.......While this eye-witness tells they had grudge against America & Britian..... & they were looking for someone with british or american passports..... Similarly they choose to attack Jewish center.
YouTube - #2 mumbai under attack, Attackers were looking for British, Americans Witness-News
Actually these were indian agents trying to get USA/UK/Israel turn against pakistan & to get their sympathies.
Also notice that above eyewitness & this one both Britishers are having their faces blackened with somesort of soot or make-up may be.....!!!! Too much stress by media on witnesses being Foeigners,,,
YouTube - Mumbai eyewitness says gunmen did not look like typical Islamic terrorist


(7)
Indians follow American method of killing their own ppl & blame it on someone else.....
Search USS Liberty... The US Navy ship attacked by israelis by will of US president to blame it on Egypt........ Russians witnessed the attack so they had to change the plan.....
Alex Jones with Webster Tarpley,
YouTube - Truth about Raw and Indian Politics
YouTube - MillIon of Us Indians Against Indian Criminal Government
YouTube - Alex Jones & Webster Tarpley - Mumbai Attacks Plans to break up Pakistan 1 / 2
YouTube - Alex Jones & Webster Tarpley - Mumbai Attacks Plans to break up Pakistan 2 / 2
= = = = = = = = = =
(8)India has more consulates in Afghanistan than in USA...!!! WHY? What are they all doing there??? They are cover for R.A.W to operate. R.A.W pays monthly salaries of 10 to 20 thousand rupees to these combatants to fight against Pakistan.
Like this one:-
YouTube - RAW paying foreign fighters to attacks on Pak security Forces
YouTube - Indian spy arrested for Lahore blast admits working for RAW
On information given by following Behraam khan another arrest was made of Moosa Khan....(Next video)
Moosa Khan:-
YouTube - A Pathan RAW Indian agent arrested in connection with Lahore suicide bombing
3 more R.A.W agents arrested:-
YouTube - Bad News for India : Lahore 3 Indian Hindu RAW secret agents arrested
= = = = = = = = = =
(9)I posted a video of an actor running around with his injured" hand....
Here's Another "ACTOR", with heavily plastered-painless hand, look how he explains everything using that injured hand...... moving fingers..... this plaster is put on for fractured/dislocated bones, which are extremely painful on movements...... u can NOT move ur hand like this with fractured bones even if u r on high dose morphine.....
YouTube - NSG commando narrate how Mumbai Terror Attack was dealt
This reminds me of a british ACTOR with flimsy bandage on......eyewitness account
YouTube - 7/7 London Bus Bomb Witness - Inside Job PROOF -pt2

(110)He has been in custody of indian forces since 2006..... He was trained by RAW for this drama

YouTube - Mumbai Attacks: Ajmal Qasab was Captured by India in 2006
YouTube - Indian Drama Xposed as broad daylight Part1

1st video above shows interview of an N.G.O lawyer who filed the case in NEPAL about his abduction by indian forces from NEPAL......


RAW is holding even more Pakistanis which they "implant" in different attacks inside india & then show their Pakistani I.Ds to blame Pakistan...


Remember 2001 parliment attack & Gujrat massacre????
It was blamed on Pakistan & Muslims respectively, only to be exposed later by indian own police like Kurkary etc that it was work of indian agencies.........


Kurkary proved that the TRAIN was NOT set on fire by muslims rather by an indian army officer & his men...... search it u pigeon, open ur eyes , cat it about to scratch u too.....


Why those "terrorists" entring india secretly, would take their PASSPORTs to india???

I think this post along with the videos has to be sent to the Pakistani court judge Malik Muhammad Akram Awan in Rawalpindi as an evidence for the 26/11 trial which is going on there..

 

[FreekiN]

Ok, sur, that was amazing.

I am speechless for now.

 

[RobbieS]

@SMC - If your sole criteria for judging who carried out 26/11 is based on who gained the most out if it, then you are severely mistaken. Its not necessarily that the country who causes an event turns out to gain the most out of it. Another country through useful diplomacy and media barrage can gain from the event as well. And in 26/11's case it did turn out that India used its diplomatic machinery and goodwill with the West to turn world opinion against Pakistan.

And since then people like Hafiz Saeed holding huge pro-violence rallies in Pakistan along with Hamid Gul hasn't helped Pakistan's cause.

 

[Cityboy]

Why dunt u ol ask gop who admitd ol terrorists were pakistani and bannd jud and let ? Or gop is also raw agent ?

 

[asq]

Valid point.

But the Indian POV has been that the host nation of the ' actors' cannot absolve itself of its resonsibility of what its citizens do.

Can a parent absolve themselves of their kids misdemeanours ?

and do u read the news or just want to rant, Pakistani foriegn minister has said many things many times about it, what do u want to achieve by repeating it here, AGAIN AND AGAIN.

 

[asq]

Why dunt u ol ask gop who admitd ol terrorists were pakistani and bannd jud and let ? Or gop is also raw agent ?

Soooooooooooooo. it is said and done, now we want you to hand that guy to us so that we can interogate him and punish him.

 

[asq]

@SMC - If your sole criteria for judging who carried out 26/11 is based on who gained the most out if it, then you are severely mistaken. Its not necessarily that the country who causes an event turns out to gain the most out of it. Another country through useful diplomacy and media barrage can gain from the event as well. And in 26/11's case it did turn out that India used its diplomatic machinery and goodwill with the West to turn world opinion against Pakistan.

And since then people like Hafiz Saeed holding huge pro-violence rallies in Pakistan along with Hamid Gul hasn't helped Pakistan's cause.

We do not need any help to our cause by you, are u talking down to Pakistanis.

what a overconfidant EGOMANIAC

 

[DaRk WaVe]

why are Indians not ready to talk about Indian link to 26/11,this thing has just disappeared in the mist, Indians just love to over simplify everything down to PA/ISI, a Muslim & wanted in a plot to assassinate Narinder Modi, does it rings bells in minds of Indians?
I highly doubt if Indians ever discussed it or even know about it

Abu Jindal, Indian link to 26/11, identified - dnaindia.com

Abu Jindal, Indian link to 26/11, identified
Nikhil Dixit / DNA
Tuesday, February 2, 2010 1:03 IST


Mumbai: Abu Jindal, one of the alleged masterminds of the 26/11 terror attacks in Mumbai, has been identified by the intelligence agencies. He is said to be Syed Zabiuddin Ansari, sources in the central intelligence agencies said.

This identification establishes the Indian link in the planning and execution of the terror attacks, for Ansari is an Indian hailing from Aurangabad district in Maharashtra. He is wanted in the Aurangabad arms haul case and also in the plot to assassinate Gujarat chief minister Narendra Modi.

The lone arrested terrorist of the 26/11 terror attacks, Mohammed Ajmal Kasab, had said in a statement to the special court that a person named Abu Jindal had taught Hindi to the 10 terrorists. Kasab also claimed that Abu Jindal was among the top functionaries of the Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT). Indian intelligence agencies, which have been trying to piece together the jigsaw puzzle, believe that Abu Jindal is Ansari.

According to intelligence sources, they have been able to identify
Ansari based on inputs from arrested terrorists and by matching the voice samples of Ansari and the 26/11 handler who was directing the terrorists through voice-over-internet protocol (VoIP). “We have information that there was an Indian in the LeT control room during the 26/11 terror attacks. Based on intelligence inputs and information provided by arrested terrorists in Kashmir, we believe that the Indian is Ansari, who fled the country in 2005,” said a senior central intelligence officer.

Ansari had escaped when a Mumbai police team had seized a huge cache of arms, ammunition and explosives from Aurangabad.

In the raid, the police arrested 11 people who were allegedly linked to LeT and the Students Islamic Movement of India (Simi), but Ansari managed to give them the slip.

“After fleeing from Aurangabad, Ansari went to Bangladesh and from there to Pakistan. He was reportedly last seen in Karachi,” the officer said. According to the police, Ansari also played a key role in an abortive plot to assassinate Gujarat chief minister Narendra Modi.