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[idune]

BNP is not pro-Islam, ZIA was pro-Islam. BNP today is an ally of Jamaat and claims to be pro-Islam because of it. I'm not trying to bash BNP by the way. I'm just saying they're not really what they say they are.

Islam is the religion of more than 85% of Bangladeshi population and if BNP or Jammat or any other parties reach out to our Islamic identity why that become a issue of heart burn for indo-Awami dalals??

Second, BNP Jammat political alliance based on nationalism and national issue and Bangladesh Islamic identity is part of that Bangladeshi nationalism. So your insinuation that BNP do not believe in Islam is utter rubbish filled with indian deception.

I don't believe that AL is ALL Bharati dalals....

Awami league regime foreign minister silently agreed Bangladesh is a buffer state of india (among so many other anti Bangladesh statements and activities) and you are here to claim Awami regime is not indian dalal. Just look at the reflection of yourself, do you see indian dalali in a clever subtle way. Your problem is people are not naïve and reality is against your wish.

One more point about India:
Yes, there have been times when India has not come through for us.
Yes, they are friends with Israel.
But, we are surrounded by them, not having a good relation with them would be just dumb. While also strengthening ourselves, maintaining our national interests and sovereignty at the same time of course. The same should be about Pakistan, we should also build and maintain a good relation with them (a direct shoutout to AL), clinging to the past will get us nowhere.

That's exact submissive and subservient mentality india prescribe to push its hegemony. There are dime a dozen so called "intellects" selling same lines but fortunately rejected by Bangladeshis. I guess indians will never fail to find new recruit.

 

[idune]

Indian journo dares to call Bangladesh a ''buffer state''-Local newsmen taken aback

Journalists were taken aback as Foreign Minister Dr Dipu Moni kept silent about an Indian journalist''s sweeping remark that Pakistan is in proxy war using Bangladesh as ''buffer state'' and import terrorists from here to carry out terror strikes against India.(The News Today)

Bangladeshi journalists covering the joint press conference of Indian External Affairs Minister Pranab Mukherjee and his Bangladeshi counterpart Dipu Moni thought that she would speak out to deflate the word ''buffer state''.

But, without refuting the invention of ''buffer state'', Dipu Moni stated her government stance--that Bangladesh will not allow its soil to be used by any element or terrorist outfit to conduct terrorist activities against India.

When a Bangladeshi journalist drew her attention while posing a question whether Bangladesh is being used as a ''buffer state'' by Pakistan to harbour terrorism, Dipu Moni--new to the tricks of the trade--didn''t make any reply about the remarks branding Bangladesh as ''buffer state''.

She rather restated what she stated about the government stance not to allow terrorists to use Bangladeshi land against any neighboring countries.


The News Today

 

[eastwatch]

Indian journo dares to call Bangladesh a ''buffer state''-Local newsmen taken aback

Journalists were taken aback as Foreign Minister Dr Dipu Moni kept silent about an Indian journalist''s sweeping remark that Pakistan is in proxy war using Bangladesh as ''buffer state'' and import terrorists from here to carry out terror strikes against India.(The News Today)

Bangladeshi journalists covering the joint press conference of Indian External Affairs Minister Pranab Mukherjee and his Bangladeshi counterpart Dipu Moni thought that she would speak out to deflate the word ''buffer state''.

But, without refuting the invention of ''buffer state'', Dipu Moni stated her government stance--that Bangladesh will not allow its soil to be used by any element or terrorist outfit to conduct terrorist activities against India.

When a Bangladeshi journalist drew her attention while posing a question whether Bangladesh is being used as a ''buffer state'' by Pakistan to harbour terrorism, Dipu Moni--new to the tricks of the trade--didn''t make any reply about the remarks branding Bangladesh as ''buffer state''.

She rather restated what she stated about the government stance not to allow terrorists to use Bangladeshi land against any neighboring countries.

The News Today

This is at least an 8 month old script you have posted. Better send some new news.

 

[akash57]

Islam is the religion of more than 85% of Bangladeshi population and if BNP or Jammat or any other parties reach out to our Islamic identity why that become a issue of heart burn for indo-Awami dalals??

Second, BNP Jammat political alliance based on nationalism and national issue and Bangladesh Islamic identity is part of that Bangladeshi nationalism. So your insinuation that BNP do not believe in Islam is utter rubbish filled with indian deception.




Awami league regime foreign minister silently agreed Bangladesh is a buffer state of india (among so many other anti Bangladesh statements and activities) and you are here to claim Awami regime is not indian dalal. Just look at the reflection of yourself, do you see indian dalali in a clever subtle way. Your problem is people are not naïve and reality is against your wish.



That's exact submissive and subservient mentality india prescribe to push its hegemony. There are dime a dozen so called "intellects" selling same lines but fortunately rejected by Bangladeshis. I guess indians will never fail to find new recruit.

Yes, I realize that Islam is the religion of 85% is Bangladesh. What I'm saying is that they are showing to be supportive of Islam to get votes and to be in power. Sorry if it was not clear. Try not to bash me and call my opinion utter rubbish next time please.

So are you saying that there is no one in AL that wants good for the country and is an Indian foot-licker? I'm simply saying that I don't believe that AL came from Jahannam with an intent to put an end to Bangladesh. For the second time, please do not bash me for stating my opinion. Reality is not against my wish.

I'm not saying we must be India's right hand man. Never should we do that for any country. I'm saying that we should not be an enemy to a country that surrounds us, while also remaining strong. There is no gain in making unnecessary enemies.

One more thing, do NOT even hint that I am an Indian recruit, acha?

 

[DesiGuy]

Yes, I realize that Islam is the religion of 85% is Bangladesh. What I'm saying is that they are showing to be supportive of Islam to get votes and to be in power. Sorry if it was not clear. Try not to bash me and call my opinion utter rubbish next time please.

So are you saying that there is no one in AL that wants good for the country and is not an Indian foot-licker? I'm simply saying that I don't believe that AL came from Jahannam with an intent to put an end to Bangladesh. For the second time, please do not bash me for stating my opinion. Reality is not against my wish.

I'm not saying we must be India's right hand man. Never should we do that for any country. I'm saying that we should not be an enemy to a country that surrounds us, while also remaining strong. There is no gain in making unnecessary enemies.




I just love your point. Seriously.



Being Indian American, i would say BD should develop it's military and economy, while maintaining good relations with both India and China.


Get benefit from both India and china and india and pakistan.

That's what sri lanka is doing. getting help from both india and china.

 

[Skies]

Yes, I realize that Islam is the religion of 85% is Bangladesh. What I'm saying is that they are showing to be supportive of Islam to get votes and to be in power. Sorry if it was not clear. Try not to bash me and call my opinion utter rubbish next time please.

# I've seen some people from Jamat and Sibir and they are very polite, honest and sincere.

# I think it is a pure propaganda that they are showing to be supportive of Islam by AL and India. Yes, may be you do not like them or may be they have some faults but I have seen them to work by their heart, but not to show others as supportive of Islam or not to get public support by showing Islam.

Can you give some clues or proofs that they try to get public support by just showing Islam?!

# Even if Jamat wants to get support by showing Islam then it's the duty of public that either they will support them or not, but AL has no right ban them. AL is trying to make bull and gossip for their own and India's benefit. AL is trying to get public support by trying to proof that Jamat is deceiving to public by showing Islam.

# And since Islam has shown us the way of life then convincing some one by showing Islam is not any bad thing, as you claim that Jamat is doing so.
What is the problem of damn sinner AL if any party follows the peaceful Islamic rules in People's republic of Bangladesh? It's the public who will select or reject them but not any Indian stooge to get own benefits by spreading propaganda against any party who likes to follow Islamic rules.

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So are you saying that there is no one in AL that wants good for the country and is an Indian foot-licker?

I have some good AL friends and they love BD and wants BD's good but they do not talk against AL even AL is wrong!

I'm not saying we must be India's right hand man. Never should we do that for any country. I'm saying that we should not be an enemy to a country that surrounds us, while also remaining strong. There is no gain in making unnecessary enemies.

* I also do not want hostile relation with India but I'm not agree that we must need to maintain well relation with India (until they behave like a sober neighbor ) who is killing, blocking water, interfere in BD’s policy and worked behind BDR mutiny as claimed by some BD members. India has a huge market in BD so they will not also want to lose that even we will not behave friendly with them. Talking about friendship with them who does not want our good makes me doubt about our braveness that we had shown in 71. We need alternative way to be dependent if India will ever become so harsh. I prefer well relation with Burma and China until India behaves friendly. I heard once that BD government will lease Burma’s land and will produce food in there and will bring those to BD. I think if we can reduce our dependency on India by making friendship with Burma and China then India will start to behave more friendly with us. The more we will become dependent on India the more they will try to dominate us by killing, blocking water and by interfering and this is their nature.

*I think most of time we argue here from our ideological views but not by logical views. Thus some AL supporters never talk against AL even their party is wrong and some other party supporters never speak out against their party either. So our argument will be continuous, unfortunately.

 

[akash57]

# I've seen some people from Jamat and Sibir and they are very polite, honest and sincere.

# I think it is a pure propaganda that they are showing to be supportive of Islam by AL and India. Yes, may be you do not like them or may be they have some faults but I have seen them to work by their heart, but not to show others as supportive of Islam or not to get public support by showing Islam.

Can you give some clues or proofs that they try to get public support by just showing Islam?!

# Even if Jamat wants to get support by showing Islam then it's the duty of public that either they will support them or not, but AL has no right ban them. AL is trying to make bull and gossip for their own and India's benefit. AL is trying to get public support by trying to proof that Jamat is deceiving to public by showing Islam.

# And since Islam has shown us the way of life then convincing some one by showing Islam is not any bad thing, as you claim that Jamat is doing so.
What is the problem of damn sinner AL if any party follows the peaceful Islamic rules in People's republic of Bangladesh? It's the public who will select or reject them but not any Indian stooge to get own benefits by spreading propaganda against any party who likes to follow Islamic rules.



I have some good AL friends and they love BD and wants BD's good but they do not talk against AL even AL is wrong!





* I also do not want hostile relation with India but I'm not agree that we must need to maintain well relation with India (until they behave like a sober neighbor ) who is killing, blocking water, interfere in BD’s policy and worked behind BDR mutiny as claimed by some BD members. India has a huge market in BD so they will not also want to lose that even we will not behave friendly with them. Talking about friendship with them who does not want our good makes me doubt about our braveness that we had shown in 71. We need alternative way to be dependent if India will ever become so harsh. I prefer well relation with Burma and China until India behaves friendly. I heard once that BD government will lease Burma’s land and will produce food in there and will bring those to BD. I think if we can reduce our dependency on India by making friendship with Burma and China then India will start to behave more friendly with us. The more we will become dependent on India the more they will try to dominate us by killing, blocking water and by interfering and this is their nature.

*I think most of time we argue here from our ideological views but not by logical views. Thus some AL supporters never talk against AL even their party is wrong and some other party supporters never speak out against their party either. So our argument will be continuous, unfortunately.

I understand what you are saying, and I appreciate your good response.

What I am saying is: I don't hate Jamaat, and if I believe that there is good somewhere in AL, I surely believe that is good in all parties, BNP and Jamaat included. Also, I too am not saying that using Islam to convince someone is a bad thing, I am actually supportive of it. I just don't believe that Jamaat is properly implementing and interpreting Islam.

You are also right about AL not having any right to ban Jamaat, that is against democracy. I criticize AL for that and other single-party minded acts.

One more thing, I also believe that if it turns out that we are better off without a friend like India in the long run, then so be it. The progress of our nation should be the top priority. Aage ghor porai por.

Just to make it clear, I am neither a supporter of AL nor BNP, but if I had to choose, I would say I am for BNP, but the way they are both being currently led, I am not supporting either.

 

[idune]

I'm not saying we must be India's right hand man. Never should we do that for any country. I'm saying that we should not be an enemy to a country that surrounds us, while also remaining strong. There is no gain in making unnecessary enemies.

One more thing, do NOT even hint that I am an Indian recruit, acha?

What you are saying is that you accusing Bangladesh is making enemy out of india. That is just utter indian dalai to begin with. Fact of the matter is india does not accept anything short of submissive and subservient relation as friendly. Bangladesh has tried for 40 years to have a good relation on basis of mutual respect and we are seeing results in every front from killing our citizens to damming rivers to occupying our land.

But your fertile idea is to submit to indian hegemony and aggression and have good relation? In what face in the world you are asking us not to call you indian dalal? What walk like a duck, talk like a duck and act like a duck is a duck. Now substitute duck with “indian dalal”; you have earned it.

 

[akash57]

What you are saying is that you accusing Bangladesh is making enemy out of india. That is just utter indian dalai to begin with. Fact of the matter is india does not accept anything short of submissive and subservient relation as friendly. Bangladesh has tried for 40 years to have a good relation on basis of mutual respect and we are seeing results in every front from killing our citizens to damming rivers to occupying our land.

But your fertile idea is to submit to indian hegemony and aggression and have good relation? In what face in the world you are asking us not to call you indian dalal? What walk like a duck, talk like a duck and act like a duck is a duck. Now substitute duck with “indian dalal”; you have earned it.

I did not once accuse Bangladesh of making an enemy out of India. I'm not an Indian dalal. I just don't believe that like AL, India is 100% evil. I also mentioned in a previous post that if Bangladesh is better off without India in the long run, then so be it. Once again, stop labelling me Indian-dalal/recruit/etc. It's not nice.

You must really like to call people dalal huh? If you think what I'm saying and my point of view makes me a dalal, then I guess you must mean that all sane people are dalals. (Not that I'm saying being an actual dalal means having sanity in any way.)

 

[Skies]

You may find some nice Indians in this forum but I think Indian govt policy is not friendly towards BD. Some Indians may be our friend but not India. They like to make their policies for their own benefits even if those are harmful to us - like building dams. They will talk to you so nicely till you will go with them and till you will facilitate them - like giving transit to them. AL is doing that right now so some Indians showing so friendly attitude to us but I doubt that those same Indians will be changed in future if AL will loose the power. Also too much intimacy with them is threat to our culture - we know about Bollyhood Culture. Even they want to justify that AL is good for us for their benefit, they do not care about BD.

Recently stooge AL has proposed for non-lethal arms for BSF, LoL. But I do not think they will ever agree with that. Because I think BSF kills our people not for their security but for their hatred towards us. Otherwise, they would not kill our poor people who bring their cows which is economically beneficial to them. Fcuk, why they kill even innocent child - for their security?!

 

[akash57]

You may find some nice Indians in this forum but I think Indian govt policy is not friendly towards BD. Some Indians may be our friend but not India. They like to make their policies for their own benefits even if those are harmful to us - like building dams. They will talk to you so nicely till you will go with them and till you will facilitate them - like giving transit to them. AL is doing that right now so some Indians showing so friendly attitude to us but I doubt that those same Indians will be changed in future if AL will loose the power. Also too much intimacy with them is threat to our culture - we know about Bollyhood Culture. Even they want to justify that AL is good for us for their benefit, they do not care about BD.

Recently stooge AL has proposed for non-lethal arms for BSF, LoL. But I do not think they will ever agree with that. Because I think BSF kills our people not for their security but for their hatred towards us. Otherwise, they would not kill our poor people who bring their cows which is economically beneficial to them. Fcuk, why they kill even innocent child - for their security?!

Yes! That's also what I've been trying to say! Indians are our friends, just not India. Maybe I should have said that from the beginning..

BSF needs to relax a little on the trigger there, our poor need money, food, clothes and a place to stay as do all the poor around the world, not free lead.

 

[Al-zakir]

Yes! That's also what I've been trying to say! Indians are our friends, just not India. Maybe I should have said that from the beginning..

BSF needs to relax a little on the trigger there, our poor need money, food, clothes and a place to stay as do all the poor around the world, not free lead.

You guys are so naive. India is not running by some imported aliens. India is running by same indians that act like a friend while will cut your throat when ain't looking. India can not digest the fact that there are two Muslim dominated region scrape out from united India. They will do what ever to demise us. At the end, only strong will survive.

 

[akash57]

You guys are so naive. India is not running by some imported aliens. India is running by same indians that act like a friend while will cut your throat when ain't looking. India can not digest the fact that there are two Muslim dominated region scrape out from united India. They will do what ever to demise us. At the end, only strong will survive.

Serious question, no sarcasm..
..can we consider Indian muslims as our friends? Or are they also trying to make sure their country is constantly dominating the region?

 

[intelarpit]

Serious question, no sarcasm..
..can we consider Indian muslims as our friends? Or are they also trying to make sure their country is constantly dominating the region?

Can you consider BD Hindus as Indian friends??

I hope you got the answer

 

[SQ8]

The only issue the Indians could have with the Bengali's are smuggling and the resource that matters most; Water.
Otherwise due to the ethnic commonality that exists between the Indian Bengal and Bangladesh there should be no issue. Plus the issue of being a muslim to have anything to do with today's Muslim nations was settled in 1971, 80-89.etc
Being a Muslim no longer holds sway over nationalism. And Islam has been swept aside for personal and Nationalistic needs time and time again by the rulers of Pakistan, Bangaldesh, Pretty much EVERY arab country, Iran etc.

off-topicish
Yes I do agree the Indian thinkers and those Brahmin caste Hindu's in power will always object to Muslim majority areas and any transfer of power to Muslim nations but that has more to do with psychology and genetic "imprinting" of traits than to actual angst. This issue lies more in the generation of Hindu's that had to be subservient to so called Muslim rulers for a period of no less than 800 years. The frustration felt by them for being overlooked due to their religion and the fact that before that Brahmin's held the sway in the society of pre-Islamic India is predominant in their attitude's today to a fault. It does not only extend to Muslims but to the lower caste Hindu's as well(although Thank fully not anymore in urban India). The RSS and other groups are a way of letting that anger out(analogous to the Islamic groups here which are a basic extension of anger at no longer being the pre-dominant power in the World).
But once these are eliminated India will still practice hegemony( like America did, and the Soviets did) in their surroundings to maintain secure borders so that it can project its power more securely beyond them.
And that is macro psychoanalysis 101