Virginity Tests

[waz]

People should just be clear with their potential spouses. Marriage can't be built on lies, it applies to both men and women. As for the virginity tests there's plenty of other ways people can find out if you have been fooling, a jealous ex, a "concerned" friend can put out a few photos on social media and bang there goes your cover.

God created men like that and women like what they are...Woman can't check men's virginity but man can. It is the law of nature so don't try to change it, even you can't. Stay away from men and wait for Mr. Right.

She can tell by the moves bro....Virgin men tend to go all ape and savage, there is no patience at all. The chap who has been around the world a few times will take his time, much like fine dining...

 

[El Sidd]

People should just be clear with their potential spouses. Marriage can't be built on lies, it applies to both men and women. As for the virginity tests there's plenty of other ways people can find out if you have been fooling, a jealous ex, a "concerned" friend can out out a few photos on social media and bang there goes your cover.

marriage has nothing to do with virginity just saying

 

[waz]

marriage has nothing to do with virginity just saying

No of course not, but if you are Islamically speaking the only reason a person should not be a virgin is that they were married before.

 

[Divergent]

LMAO

Don’t encourage his shitty comments

 

[El Sidd]

No of course not, but if you are Islamically speaking the only reason a person should not be a virgin is that they were married before.

that is highly debatable even by theology as vast as islam

only culture outlines virginity = marriage

theology or religion does not. marriage is about protection of rights as understood by man and woman under 4 witnesses and recognized by the state the appropriate right

muslims claim one of the rights to be virginity
islam makes no such claims Sir

that is highly debatable even by theology as vast as islam

only culture outlines virginity = marriage

theology or religion does not. marriage is about protection of rights as understood by man and woman under 4 witnesses and recognized by the state the appropriate right

muslims claim one of the rights to be virginity
islam makes no such claims Sir

@Valar. @I.R.A @Metanoia is this a fair argument?

 

[mike2000 is back]

She can tell by the moves bro....Virgin men tend to go all ape and savage, there is no patience at all. The chap who has been around the world a few times will take his time, much like fine dining.

Well said elder.

 

[waz]

Well said elder.

High- five bro!

that is highly debatable even by theology as vast as islam

only culture outlines virginity = marriage

theology or religion does not. marriage is about protection of rights as understood by man and woman under 4 witnesses and recognized by the state the appropriate right

muslims claim one of the rights to be virginity
islam makes no such claims Sir

Islam tells you to stay chaste until you marry, can you show me evidence otherwise?
I'm not sure what the rest of your post means. I already stated that the two are not connected.

 

[El Sidd]

Islam tells you to stay chaste until you marry, can you show me evidence otherwise?
I'm not sure what the rest of your post means. I already stated that the two are not connected.

where does this comes in the Book.........?

Chastity can be defined in so many different ways. it is a comprehension problem if some have only narrowed down to SEX. English is not my first language but you can correct me bhai saab....

 

[waz]

where does this comes in the Book.........?

Chastity can be defined in so many different ways. it is a comprehension problem if some have only narrowed down to SEX. English is not my first language but you can correct me bhai saab....

It is from the book actually zina is forbidden, or do you want me to show you evidence of that? If zina is forbidden what does that leave, only marriage to have sex.
Chastity can be defined in many ways, however the talk here is about physical virginity.

 

[El Sidd]

It is from the book actually zina is forbidden, or do you want me to show you evidence of that? If zina is forbidden what does that leave, only marriage to have sex.
Chastity can be defined in many ways, however the talk here is about physical virginity.

halal women made available to men are actually well listed in the book. no point of debating the obvious.

the definition of zina is also well described.

physical virginity is the least of concern when the concept of marriage is discussed. it is as superficial as the perfume she may wear on that fateful night lol

 

[Divergent]

Wow I’m not practising but even I know what @waz is saying is right. Like come on - to not be compliant is different but to distort words that are specifically worded is another thing. Atleast those who error say upfront and be like ‘hey yeah we know it’s wrong’ - instead of making excuses for it. Wow. Just wow.

 

[HannibalBarca]

Wow ... You seem to know alot about this.
On a serious note, does this really happen?

Many thing like that did happen, around the world to cheat that moment, you also have Brides who will cut their fingers and use the blood... You have Husbands who are helping their wives when that moment come, by cutting themselves and use it on the sheet... since "They" did it before the time... That tradition of showing off the sheet with that blood stain is a Question of Honor/Pride for both Families Back in the days ... so they had to take part in it.
Till this day, that tradition still exist, around the globe, Whatever in some part of East Europe/Latin America/AFrica/Asia/ME...

 

[El Sidd]

Wow I’m not practising but even I know what @waz is saying is right. Like come on - to not be compliant is different but to distort words that are specifically worded is another thing. Atleast those who error say upfront and be like ‘hey yeah we know it’s wrong’ - instead of making excuses for it. Wow. Just wow.

Mam have enough balls to address me directly. i dont bite that often.

now neither Arabic is your first language nor @waz nor mine for that matter. all we have is second interpretation to deal with.

and please nobody wants to know you are practicing or not.

you give me an exact verse of the Book which says that and i will take my words back and repent. and may god forgive me. but having studied religion as all Pakistanis do one way or the other. i can safely say chastity does not equal virginity and marriage does not equal sex in theology.

for pious men are pious women, for muslima a muslim and for others the alike. as the Books says.

now halal are those women onto you which your 'right hand' possess can be eagerly discussed.

 

[Zibago]

She can tell by the moves bro....Virgin men tend to go all ape and savage, there is no patience at all. The chap who has been around the world a few times will take his time, much like fine dining...

 

[Divergent]

Mam have enough balls to address me directly. i dont bite that often.

now neither Arabic is your first language nor @waz nor mine for that matter. all we have is second interpretation to deal with.

and please nobody wants to know you are practicing or not.

you give me an exact verse of the Book which says that and i will take my words back and repent. and may god forgive me. but having studied religion as all Pakistanis do one way or the other. i can safely say chastity does not equal virginity and marriage does not equal sex in theology.

for pious men are pious women, for muslima a muslim and for others the alike. as the Books says.

now halal are those women onto you which your 'right hand' possess can be eagerly discussed.

Bro - my 7yr old would clearly know this and it’s actually in the book. I’d rather people be honest and say - hey you know we’re no saints - that decide to change wordings just so they can massage their inner guilt to sleep. Please. It’s there clearly and google helps.