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Air defence destroyer is just a fancy name for "mobile SAM system on the ocean surface". Ground-based SAM can fire and hide but ship-borned SAM has no where to hide in the middle of the ocean. Air defence destroyer will be a magnet for standoff range Antiship missiles launched from jets or submarines.
Viet Nam will not have one single ship that cost $1.7 billion usd; that's goes against our military doctrine of "hoả khí phân tán, hoả lực tập trung". We will not put most of our eggs in one basket like that. If we really want to build up our air defence in the middle of the ocean, we would buy 6 Gremyashchy Class Corvettes instead. 6 of those ships have a combined fire power of 48 antiship missiles and 96 long-ranged SAMs vs type 45 with only 8 antiship missiles and 48 long-ranged SAMs. Another option of building up our air defence in the middle of the ocean is with $1.7 billion, we might as well put 10 system of the S-300PMU2 on our largest Spratly islands (or our coast). 10 systems of S-300PMU2 have a fire power of 300 SAMs ready to be fired.
With that being said, I don't think Viet Nam is going to build up our ship-borned air defence anytime soon. The reason is that the distance from our coast to the Paracels or Spratlys is 400 km and 600 km respectively. Our air defence will be our air force. $1.7 billion for a single ship can be spent on 34 Flankers. Jets are mucher faster than ship. Jets can launch standoff ranged antiship missiles like the Kh-35UE that we're working on or the Kh-59MK at enemies' ships and get the hell out of danger. 34 Flankers can launch a combine 136 antiship missiles. OTOH, ship is a sitting duck, it won't out run a jet or missile to get out of danger.
No need to feel anxious and try to keep up with the Wangs the wrong way
you're buddy from MP forum, right !?Absolutely correct. Expensive ships, no matter how important they seem to be, they will just be easy targets for the chinese. VN can't afford to waste resources like that.
According to the operational doctrine of the Vietnamese Navy, their priorities when it comes to ships are as follows:
1) Submarines: They are the most survivable ships, difficult to detect and can interdict Chinese warships as well as merchant shipping in the South China Sea.
2) Small, fast and very manoeuvrable ships for hit and run attacks. Molniya class ships fit this criteria.
3) ASW ships of a corvette / light frigate size. Gepard / Sigma class ships with ASW package fit this criteria.
you're buddy from MP forum, right !?
Are you Vietnamese or Spanish !?
A company spokesperson confirmed this to IHS Jane's , saying that the Socialist Republic of Vietnam had indeed ordered three transport-variant C295 aircraft
everything can change, so does the doctrine to deal with the enemies.Absolutely correct. Expensive ships, no matter how important they seem to be, they will just be easy targets for the chinese. VN can't afford to waste resources like that.
According to the operational doctrine of the Vietnamese Navy, their priorities when it comes to ships are as follows:
1) Submarines: They are the most survivable ships, difficult to detect and can interdict Chinese warships as well as merchant shipping in the South China Sea.
2) Small, fast and very manoeuvrable ships for hit and run attacks. Molniya class ships fit this criteria.
3) ASW ships of a corvette / light frigate size. Gepard / Sigma class ships with ASW package fit this criteria.
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welcome to the forumYes, its me. I'm Spanish living in Vietnam.
I've been following this thread for quite some time and I finally joined.
everything can change, so does the doctrine to deal with the enemies.
In my opinion, Vietnam navy needs bigger warships (destroyers) and more modern subs (AIP). Further the airforce needs more squadrons of advanced fighter jets. At but not least sending more spy sattelites in space as we need pictures from the region.
nice, that is the bird
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welcome to the forum
are you working or studying in VN?
To Spanish guy, you need to stop ruining this thread and turning it into another chit chat discussion thing like do you with the thread on MP. Stick to the present and post only current Viet military hardware photos or official military news. And please do not post rumour/news from some blog/facebook/forums or some guy masquerading as a Viet general on the internet.
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MineWho's girl in your avatar !?![]()
come Vietnam first, sir ...Mine![]()
remember now ...She's Trịnh Hồng Quế
Pls continue contributing with your assessments.Wow, thank you for the welcome, I didn't know that you are the boss here and the one that decides what is ok to post or not, who appointed you to that role?
I believe the name of this thread is Vietnam military news and discussion, isn't it? But it seems that you are not interested in discussion. I see everybody else doing discussion here, so what is your problem?
Its news to me that I ruined the MP thread with my chit chat as you call it, you are the first one that mentions something like that and somehow I get the feeling that you are the one that is off. A forum is not about one person and his ideas, you know? A forum is about diversity of opinions and points of views, I'm not sure you understand that.
You said to stick to the present, I failed to see where I'm not sticking to the present, care to explain in more detail?
I make my own mind, my own opinions and my own analysis about the Vietnamese military balance with China and I spend a lot of time researching things in order to come up with my conclusions and I use input from many sources and I'm not particularly linked or associated to any of them.
It seems that you have issues with someone in Facebook, etc, well, that's your problem, not mine and I'm not interested in getting involved in your issues with them. I have no idea who that internet general that you mentioned is.
Obviously, you don't like my opinions and that's fine, I respect your opinion and if you don't like or agree to something that I post, then feel free to post your opinion or comment, but don't try to set rules for me or censor what I have to say, ok? That being said, If a lot of other people here feel like you and they express that, then I'll be happy to go if I'm not welcome here.