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Where were the Soviet Union and China ? Stop blaming sanctions and embargoes. Just because the West had sanctions and embargoes on post war Viet Nam, are you saying that the Soviet Union and China obeyed ? Let me guess, the Soviet Union and China assisted North Viet Nam during the war, then after the war and unification, both countries got scared by the US ?
News for you -- JPN and SKR entered Viet Nam while those embargoes were in place. The embargoes were not lifted until President Clinton...
http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/clinton-ends-trade-embargo-of-vietnam
JPN and SKR were already in Viet Nam long before 1994. Same for many European countries. Same for Canada.
Viet Nam got poor because of the misguided leadership -- Marxism.
When the US aided JPN and SKR, what system were used ?
When the Soviets and Chinese aided Viet Nam, what system were used ?
The results ? JPN and SKR became wealthy, educated, and worldly, while Viet Nam got mired in the economic and political muck. The fact that you tried to blame US assistance proved my point.
I would have to agree with Gambit on this one. Poor leadership.
We lost. Get over it.
NK would steam roll SK without the US. SK is nothing without the US.
Crediting the US for bringing SK to the first world is not blaming. You need to check your reading comprehension.
My father fought for the south. Got shredded by bullets. Grenades tore his insides out. Mine ripped off half his legs laterally. He still have fragments in him. He went back into combat after every wound, even when they had to saw an inch off his right leg. Snd you know what he thinks? He thinks the south deserve to lose. The south werent motivated fighters. Instead of focusing on winning a war, the south worried more about chasing girls and drinking.
What did you do to help save south Vietnam? Chasing girls while your brothers gave their life?
I would agree on that note. The South Vietnam was weak and it had no purpose to win. North had a purpose, a real one. While South Vietnam was Thailand (a whore house).
Bro you missed several things. JP went thru the period of industrial revolution while VN not. The French did nothing in building just looting the resources. JP was bombed and nuked but VN with Laos and Cambodia received more bombs than the entire Europea in WW II, surpassing JP in terms of nuclear explosions. JP recovering was quick after the war because she has the economic foundation. VN not.
VN was completely destroyed but was held back for another two decades by a combination of western sanction, three front war of aggression by China, Cambodia and Thailand, failed economic policies and last but not least lots of Vietnamese were fleeing the country.
SK is another story. I once said something here about the kimchi folks.
The rise of Japan after the defeat was assisted by the United States, similar the rise of Germany. They received tons of money and technology.
What do you think why both countries today are the most loyal US allies despite they were enemies fighting the Americans to the bitter end? The relationship between VN and CN could take the same path if the Chinese haven't gone back to the centuries old traditional path of destruction policy toward Vietnam.
I think that is what Gambit was trying to say. Bottom line is Vietnam doesn't have the right tools and minds to enables Vietnam to industrialized. However, the possibilities are still there. It needs to promote Higher Education, Engineering and Science.