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Yes, the Japanese ones are quite good and not very expensive. Japan could offer those with favorable credit terms as they often do. Osumi class:
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lol, we actually blamed BAe yard for the wrong block on the ship and the delay, but well, not going to argue with you, our worker is crap....
Those are the union who hire apprentice and pass out to the government like they hire a full time fully qualified ship builder, and then bill the government full bill for the job....Hence earning twice the amount they paid....
Anyway, these are the things from the pass, we area actually investing a lot in ASC and Austal, the latter is actually trying to establish themselves as the permier ship builder in South East Asia, riding on Austal USA success.
Here is an article about Austal and Vietnam ship yard cooperation in 2013, maybe we can see some LCS serving the Vietnamese Navy later (Yes, Austal own the design of LCS..)
https://vietnamshipbuildingnews.com...-pacific-region-cam-ranh-shipyard-in-vietnam/
Austal Announces New Strategic Partnerships with Shipyards in Asia-Pacific Region ( Cam Ranh shipyard in Vietnam )
Posted on May 14, 2013 by vietnamshipbuildingnews
Austal continues to demonstrate its commitment to enhancing its support offering to the United States Navy and other navies active in the Asia-Pacific region, announcing new strategic partnerships with regional shipyards at the IMDEX Asia defence exhibition in Singapore this week.
Following on from the strategic partnership with Singapore’s Sembawang Shipyard Pte Ltd announced in January 2013, Austal has now secured similar agreements with Unithai Shipyard and Engineering in Thailand and Cam Ranh Shipyard in Vietnam.
Austal Chief Executive Officer Andrew Bellamy stated: “We are very proud to have partnered with such reputable shipyards and we look forward to building mutually beneficial relationships to support the defence and commercial vessels in the region.
“In particular, we are focussed on developing a comprehensive capability tailored to support the requirements of the US Navy’s fleet of Littoral Combat Ships (LCS) and Joint High Speed Vessels (JHSV), both of which are expected to operate in the region,” he said, noting that the first LCS recently deployed to the region.
Austal is currently contracted to build ten 103 metre JHSVs under a US$1.6 billion contract and eight 127 metre Independence-variant LCSs, six of which are a part of a 10-ship US$3.5 billion contract. Austal has already delivered one LCS and one JHSV.
“We have our own people and facilities in the western and northern Australia, as well as in the Philippines, and we are now well down the road of expanding our support capability both geographically and in terms of facilities and manpower,” Mr Bellamy said.
“Aligning with these capable shipyards is an efficient and effective way of rapidly expanding the area and customer base to which we can make our specialist capabilities available.”
Unithai MOU provides US Navy with quality Thai option
Austal’s Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) with Unithai Shipyard and Engineering, Thailand’s premier shipyard, strengthens the companies’ cooperation and collaboration in sharing expertise and providing high-quality ship repair services to support defence and commercial vessels operating in the Asia-Pacific region.
Based on the MOU, Unithai Shipyard will be Austal’s preferred repair shipyard for US-owned commercial and defence vessels, such as the LCSs and JHSVs, that require repairs when operating near Thailand.
“We recognise that Unithai Shipyard is one of largest integrated ship repair facilities in Thailand , with a world-class reputation based on its commitment to high standards covering health, safety and the environment, timely delivery, superior customer service and innovative solutions,” said Andrew Bellamy.
“In particular, it has a track record as one of the world’s leading shipyards specialising in the repair, conversion and maintenance of commercial, defence and auxiliary vessels. We believe Unithai Shipyard provides high quality professional services that can meet our customers’ expectations.”
Unithai Shipyard’s Managing Director, Teerapon Udomkanjananan said: “The MOU is not only a significant milestone allowing Unithai Shipyard to step forward and exchange experience and expertise with a globally reputable defence prime contractor and shipbuilder, but it is also essential to promoting the shipyard industry in Thailand.
“Unithai Shipyard is strongly committed to delivering the best-quality service in the entire range of ship repair projects referred by Austal.”
Vietnamese shipyard has MSC track record
In Vietnam, Austal has signed an MOU with Cam Ranh Shipyard. The modern shipyard is strategically located in one of the best deep water harbours in the world, approximately equal distances from Hong Kong, Manila and Singapore.
“Cam Ranh Shipyard has already carried out work on multiple Military Sealift Command ships, which demonstrates it has the ability to undertake repair and maintenance to MSC requirements effectively and cost-efficiently,” Mr Bellamy said.
“Our expertise with high speed craft such as the LCSs and MSC-operated JHSVs will enable Cam Ranh Shipyard to expand on its existing activities, and Austal to provide better support ships operating in or transiting through the western part of the South China Sea,” he said.
Established in 2005, Cam Ranh Shipyard first performed maintenance on an MSC ship, the dry cargo/ammunition ship USNS Richard E. Byrd, in March 2010. That work was undertaken in Van Phong Bay but the following year the ship spent seven days at the shipyard for routine maintenance and repairs – the first visit by a US Navy ship to Cam Ranh Bay in more than three decades.
Further history was made in June 2012 when then US Secretary of Defense, Leon Panetta, visited the ship while it was again in Cam Ranh Bay for maintenance. Panetta was the first defense secretary and the highest-ranking US official to visit the Vietnamese port since the end of the Vietnam War in 1975.
The MOU was signed by Mr Bui Huu Sy, Chairman of Cam Ranh Shipyard, and Mr Mike Little, who is Austal’s Singapore-based Regional Service Manager for the Asia-Pacific region.
Cam Ranh Shipyard is one of 26 shipyards within the Vietnam Shipbuilding Industry Group (Vinashin), which is majority-owned by the Vietnamese Government. Recognising the importance of the new agreement, the signing was also attended by Vinashin’s Chief Executive Officer, Mr Truong Van Tuyen, and Vice President, Mr Nguyen Quoc Anh.
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lol, we actually blamed BAe yard for the wrong block on the ship and the delay, but well, not going to argue with you, our worker is crap....
Those are the union who hire apprentice and pass out to the government like they hire a full time fully qualified ship builder, and then bill the government full bill for the job....Hence earning twice the amount they paid....
Anyway, these are the things from the pass, we area actually investing a lot in ASC and Austal, the latter is actually trying to establish themselves as the permier ship builder in South East Asia, riding on Austal USA success.
Here is an article about Austal and Vietnam ship yard cooperation in 2013, maybe we can see some LCS serving the Vietnamese Navy later (Yes, Austal own the design of LCS..)
https://vietnamshipbuildingnews.com...-pacific-region-cam-ranh-shipyard-in-vietnam/
Austal Announces New Strategic Partnerships with Shipyards in Asia-Pacific Region ( Cam Ranh shipyard in Vietnam )
Posted on May 14, 2013 by vietnamshipbuildingnews
Austal continues to demonstrate its commitment to enhancing its support offering to the United States Navy and other navies active in the Asia-Pacific region, announcing new strategic partnerships with regional shipyards at the IMDEX Asia defence exhibition in Singapore this week.
Following on from the strategic partnership with Singapore’s Sembawang Shipyard Pte Ltd announced in January 2013, Austal has now secured similar agreements with Unithai Shipyard and Engineering in Thailand and Cam Ranh Shipyard in Vietnam.
Austal Chief Executive Officer Andrew Bellamy stated: “We are very proud to have partnered with such reputable shipyards and we look forward to building mutually beneficial relationships to support the defence and commercial vessels in the region.
“In particular, we are focussed on developing a comprehensive capability tailored to support the requirements of the US Navy’s fleet of Littoral Combat Ships (LCS) and Joint High Speed Vessels (JHSV), both of which are expected to operate in the region,” he said, noting that the first LCS recently deployed to the region.
Austal is currently contracted to build ten 103 metre JHSVs under a US$1.6 billion contract and eight 127 metre Independence-variant LCSs, six of which are a part of a 10-ship US$3.5 billion contract. Austal has already delivered one LCS and one JHSV.
“We have our own people and facilities in the western and northern Australia, as well as in the Philippines, and we are now well down the road of expanding our support capability both geographically and in terms of facilities and manpower,” Mr Bellamy said.
“Aligning with these capable shipyards is an efficient and effective way of rapidly expanding the area and customer base to which we can make our specialist capabilities available.”
Unithai MOU provides US Navy with quality Thai option
Austal’s Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) with Unithai Shipyard and Engineering, Thailand’s premier shipyard, strengthens the companies’ cooperation and collaboration in sharing expertise and providing high-quality ship repair services to support defence and commercial vessels operating in the Asia-Pacific region.
Based on the MOU, Unithai Shipyard will be Austal’s preferred repair shipyard for US-owned commercial and defence vessels, such as the LCSs and JHSVs, that require repairs when operating near Thailand.
“We recognise that Unithai Shipyard is one of largest integrated ship repair facilities in Thailand , with a world-class reputation based on its commitment to high standards covering health, safety and the environment, timely delivery, superior customer service and innovative solutions,” said Andrew Bellamy.
“In particular, it has a track record as one of the world’s leading shipyards specialising in the repair, conversion and maintenance of commercial, defence and auxiliary vessels. We believe Unithai Shipyard provides high quality professional services that can meet our customers’ expectations.”
Unithai Shipyard’s Managing Director, Teerapon Udomkanjananan said: “The MOU is not only a significant milestone allowing Unithai Shipyard to step forward and exchange experience and expertise with a globally reputable defence prime contractor and shipbuilder, but it is also essential to promoting the shipyard industry in Thailand.
“Unithai Shipyard is strongly committed to delivering the best-quality service in the entire range of ship repair projects referred by Austal.”
Vietnamese shipyard has MSC track record
In Vietnam, Austal has signed an MOU with Cam Ranh Shipyard. The modern shipyard is strategically located in one of the best deep water harbours in the world, approximately equal distances from Hong Kong, Manila and Singapore.
“Cam Ranh Shipyard has already carried out work on multiple Military Sealift Command ships, which demonstrates it has the ability to undertake repair and maintenance to MSC requirements effectively and cost-efficiently,” Mr Bellamy said.
“Our expertise with high speed craft such as the LCSs and MSC-operated JHSVs will enable Cam Ranh Shipyard to expand on its existing activities, and Austal to provide better support ships operating in or transiting through the western part of the South China Sea,” he said.
Established in 2005, Cam Ranh Shipyard first performed maintenance on an MSC ship, the dry cargo/ammunition ship USNS Richard E. Byrd, in March 2010. That work was undertaken in Van Phong Bay but the following year the ship spent seven days at the shipyard for routine maintenance and repairs – the first visit by a US Navy ship to Cam Ranh Bay in more than three decades.
Further history was made in June 2012 when then US Secretary of Defense, Leon Panetta, visited the ship while it was again in Cam Ranh Bay for maintenance. Panetta was the first defense secretary and the highest-ranking US official to visit the Vietnamese port since the end of the Vietnam War in 1975.
The MOU was signed by Mr Bui Huu Sy, Chairman of Cam Ranh Shipyard, and Mr Mike Little, who is Austal’s Singapore-based Regional Service Manager for the Asia-Pacific region.
Cam Ranh Shipyard is one of 26 shipyards within the Vietnam Shipbuilding Industry Group (Vinashin), which is majority-owned by the Vietnamese Government. Recognising the importance of the new agreement, the signing was also attended by Vinashin’s Chief Executive Officer, Mr Truong Van Tuyen, and Vice President, Mr Nguyen Quoc Anh.
It would be nice to get an LCS for Vietnam although I think its a bit expensive for Vietnam, but a fast ship like that would be quite nice for patrolling the SCS.
Not trying to argue or to be offensive to Australia, just talking about the unions, they are a pain to deal with everywhere. When living in USA sometimes I had to deal with the teamsters union. oh man, they are a totally glorified, arrogant ***..holes that got you in their hands and suck every bit of blood out of you and there is nothing that you can do about it. They are definitely responsible for a lot of jobs leaving USA, Australia, etc. They don't believe in a fair win win type of relationship, everything has to be their way. Oh well.
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well thats true, Australian got lot of problems with their made in Australia policy. If its Vietnam or Indonesia, i will be damned sure Hobart class prices can drop till 60 percent of their current price tag.
Actually, Indonesia is in the process of designing new AAW destroyer in cooperation with Denmark/Danish odense Maritims tech based on their Iver Huitfeld Class project. And the proposed price tag to be built in Indonesia is around 780 million. The program is similar with Indonesia Damen cooperation on Sigma class
Danish naval defence solutions introduced to Indonesia
by Joakim Persson, Managing Editor ScandAsia • May 21, 2017
On 18 – 19 May 2017 Denmark’s Rear Admiral Frank Trojahn, visited Indonesia together with a delegation of Danish companies within the naval sector.
On the agenda was a meeting with the Chief of Staff of the Indonesian Navy, Admiral Ade Supandi, who visited Denmark in October last year. This was followed by a small seminar, where the Danish companies had the chance to do presentations of Danish naval defence solutions.
Rear Admiral Trojahn and the Danish companies also met with the Indonesian Coastguard BAKAMLA and presented multi-purpose maritime solutions to the Indonesian needs.
On the second day the delegation went to Surabaya, the capital of East Java and an important seaport and centre of commerce for the eastern part of Indonesia. Here, the Chief of Naval Staff and the accompanying Danish companies visited the headquarters of the Eastern Indonesian Fleet and had lunch with representatives from the Surabaya administration office and maritime stakeholders, including the National Naval Design Centre.
After the lunch, the Danish company Odense Maritime Technology (OMT) signed a MoU with the Indonesian National Naval Design Centre on cooperation in naval ship designing.
In the afternoon, the delegation visited the PT PAL naval vessels shipyard. It was a great occasion for the Danish companies to see Indonesian naval defence facilities and present Danish naval technologies and solutions.
Source: Embassy of Denmark, Jakarta
http://scandasia.com/danish-naval-de...-to-indonesia/
i must be damned sure if Vietnam can producing heavier warship with much cheaper price tag than what Russian built offered as long as it built in Vietnam
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The Iver Huitfeldt class is a nice ship and a price tag of 780 million is very reasonable for a ship like that and is in line with the prices of similar European frigate / light destroyers like that. That price tag is the starter price tag for such ships in Europe. Indonesia worked out a good deal there.
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I almost forgot to post the news of the day
PLA strongman General Fan Changlong, also acting as vice chairman of China's Central Military Commission (the body that controls and commands the Chinese armed forces) on a surprise visit to Hanoi June 19. Nothing is revealed aside of typical rhetoric, but one can guess he wants to deliver a warning to Vietnam.
the Chinese communist comrades aren't amused by recent Vietnam activities: one is Phuc government's recent visits to Washington and Tokyo. Rapprochement to China's arch enemies. The other activity is mostly unknown for some: Vietnam develops a copy of China silkroad, ok a small copy due to smaller ambition and smaller budget, called "Two Corridors and One Economic Circle", a plan to connect Vietnam to Indochinese mainland to Burma and at later stage to India and beyond. By land and sea. The Chinese should be more relaxed. A little competition can be very healthy.
PLA strongman General Fan Changlong, also acting as vice chairman of China's Central Military Commission (the body that controls and commands the Chinese armed forces) on a surprise visit to Hanoi June 19. Nothing is revealed aside of typical rhetoric, but one can guess he wants to deliver a warning to Vietnam.
the Chinese communist comrades aren't amused by recent Vietnam activities: one is Phuc government's recent visits to Washington and Tokyo. Rapprochement to China's arch enemies. The other activity is mostly unknown for some: Vietnam develops a copy of China silkroad, ok a small copy due to smaller ambition and smaller budget, called "Two Corridors and One Economic Circle", a plan to connect Vietnam to Indochinese mainland to Burma and at later stage to India and beyond. By land and sea. The Chinese should be more relaxed. A little competition can be very healthy.
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Reports surface Vietnam successfully reverse engineer S75 AA missile. More details may follow.
Not the dream of an expedition army: return of soldiers in a coffin. Although the Vietnam war ends decades ago, the US continues spending endless money and efforts to search soldiers missing in action MIA. Dead or alive. All should return home.
Not the dream of an expedition army: return of soldiers in a coffin. Although the Vietnam war ends decades ago, the US continues spending endless money and efforts to search soldiers missing in action MIA. Dead or alive. All should return home.
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It seems to me that it would not be difficult to reverse engineer the S75 since the original tech is quite old and the recent upgrade was done in Vietnam. I'm sure Viettel would be able to handle the tech without issues, but the key would be to be able to produce all the critical components in Vietnam, that's the only part that I'm not sure about.
After PH capitulated to China, VN is the only one in the region that is not backing down and has some options with outsiders if things get hot so the chinese are trying to bring VN into line. There is obviously more going on than what we know.
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The 3-day Vietnam/Russia summit is scheduled from June 26 to 28. Besides military cooperation, it is expected, Vietnam will press Russia to quickly set up auto and truck assembly plants in Vietnam. Vladimir Putin has promised the move previously as part of technology transfer.
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yes the japanese should drop all hesitations. that little boat is nice. can we have 2 pieces for a start please? although I believe a delivery of carriers to VN will drive someone more crazy.
China Cancels Military Meeting With Vietnam
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/21/world/asia/china-vietnam-south-china-sea.html
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Very good article, Its clear now that there is quite a bit of tension going on. The PM's trip to USA and Japan probably created more results than what has been published. We can expect more water games soon.
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Plus some economic pains. They stop buying pigs and pork. That is not a small issue. I wonder what they plan next.
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I'm sure we'll find out soon enough.
Well, this is a lesson for countries that think they can be cozy cozy with China and maintain their independence. Once they hook you with economic incentives you become dependent on them and they got you by the balls. At the moment you disagree with something, they turn the screws on you and make you feel the pain.
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I think we must develop some plans under the table, just in case. Media say our PLA man Fan Changlong seems very angry as he left a meeting early, cancelling all military meetings, returning home red faced. He might have become outraged, when his Vietnamese communist comrades revealed, Vietnam plans to counter the future Chinese underwater monitoring system. a Sosus variant. What does Changlong expect? We shouldn't do anything, making the Chinese easy to detect our submarines?
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