What's new

Vietnam Defence Forum

Early Warning Radar

Carlosa, what do you think of this: we ask Russia for help in building a network of Early Warning Radars, similar to the Voronezh-class, that is currently deployed in Russia as part of Strategic missile defence shield.

Specs: using three frequency bands VHF, UHF and EHF. system's range is up to 6,000 km, capable of detecting objects (as small as a size of a soccer ball) at a height of up to 4,000 km, detecting ballistic missiles and aircraft, tracking up to 500 objects simultaneously. cost: $20 million per station. power consumption: 10 MW per station.

Having such a system in place, covering most parts of China controlled airspace on mainland and at sea, would give us a tool to keep track all of their movements.


CX8z5YbWEAAhmyk.jpg


1033015119.jpg

Yes, the Voronezh OTH radars would cover the whole of China, can point one towards the north to cover China and one towards the east to cover the whole of the SCS. I used to talk about this 2 or 3 years ago (I think at the MP forum), but I'm not sure Russia would sell them to Vietnam.

By the way, Today Russia declared the Iskander missile a prohibited weapon for export because it can carry nuclear warheads. Vietnam should go to Israel and buy the Lora ballistic missile then.
 
Last edited:
Yes, the Voronezh OTH radars would cover the whole of China, can point one towards the north to cover China and one towards the east to cover the whole of the SCS. I used to talk about this 2 or 3 years ago (I think at the MP forum), but I'm not sure Russia would sell them to Vietnam.

By the way, Today Russia declared the Iskander missile a prohibited weapon for export because it can carry nuclear warheads. Vietnam should go to Israel and buy the Lora ballistic missile then.
I believe that becomes the norm. every time if we want to buy some advanced toys from Russia, as soon as the Chinese notice the news, they approach the Russians, offering enough money to sabotage the deals. How would you say it? it is bribe? all hands up to 1,000 years Russia-China friendship.

Is Israel willing to sell ballistic missile technology?

anyway, we send from this forum many greetings the great leader of North Korea, Kim Jong-un. his special envoy Choe Thae-bok is currently visiting Vietnam. the question may arise during the summit if they can help us advancing our ballistic missile program? making our Hwasong-5 and -6 ballistic missiles with a range of max 500 km, flying further, carrying more load, hitting target with more accuracy.






Vietnam´s Hwasong short range ballistic missiles

quy-trinh-bao-duong-ten-lua-dan-dao-cua-viet-nam_8559442.jpg


quy-trinh-bao-duong-ten-lua-dan-dao-cua-viet-nam_8559891.jpg


quy-trinh-bao-duong-ten-lua-dan-dao-cua-viet-nam_8559137.jpg


quy-trinh-bao-duong-ten-lua-dan-dao-cua-viet-nam_861389.jpg



quy-trinh-bao-duong-ten-lua-dan-dao-cua-viet-nam_860564.jpg



1-06.jpg
 
Larsen & Toubro (L&T) could soon build Offshore Patrol Vessels (OPV) for Vietnam.

The bid document was handed over by Vietnamese border guards to L&T in the presence of Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar during an industry interaction in Hanoi on Monday. Mr. Parrikar is on a two-day visit to Vietnam from June 5 after attending the Shangri-La dialogue in Singapore.

He held a meeting with his Vietnamese counterpart, General Ngo Xuan Lich where both sides agreed on greater industry-to-industry interaction.

Mr. Parrikar later attended a business roundtable meeting comprising defence industry delegates from the two countries.

Enhanced co-operation
“The meeting focussed on enhancing defence industry networking, information sharing and exploration of possibilities for partnerships and collaborations between the two countries,” according to a Defence Ministry statement. The purchase will be funded through a $100 million Line of Credit (LoC) India had extended to Vietnam for military purchases.

Vietnam has embarked on a major modernisation of its armed forces and both countries operate a wide range of Russian equipment.

A Memorandum of Understanding for the LoC was signed during President Pranab Mukherjee’s visit to Hanoi in September 2014.

During his visit, Mr. Parrikar also called on the President of Vietnam, Tran Dai Quang and Prime Minister, Nguyen Xuan Phuc.

http://www.thehindu.com/business/In...patrol-vessels-for-vietnam/article8697433.ece

E2krAPp.jpg


This article is courtesy of @Water Car Engineer
 
Industry
BAE Systems sets sights on Vietnam
Jon Grevatt, Bangkok - IHS Jane's Defence Weekly
07 June 2016
http://www.janes.com/article/61016/bae-systems-sets-sights-on-vietnam


BAE Systems is undertaking a project to expand its understanding of Vietnam, with a view to potential market penetration. The move coincides with the United States' recent decision to lift its long-standing military embargo on the Southeast Asian country.

Nick Glover, BAE Systems' Southeast Asia vice president, told IHS Jane's recently that the company is "assessing" Vietnam and potential opportunities, not only in its defence market but in adjacent sectors such as homeland security.

"Vietnam could be an interesting market," he said. "We have been assessing industrial capability within the country and we are looking at potential opportunities. It could be a market where we look to enter through Applied Intelligence [BAE Systems' cyber security division] or our HADR [Humanitarian Assistance, Disaster Relief] products."
 
Vietnam’s only all-female air defense cannon company

TUOI TRE NEWS

UPDATED : 06/06/2016 10:04 GMT + 7

obDcoXae.jpg

An all-female air defense company of military cannoneers, the only one of its kind in Vietnam, is not something one expects to see every day.

Members of the Militiawomen Company 4 of Dong Lam Commune, located in Tien Hai District in the northern province of Thai Binh, ensure that they always comply with the stringent, army-like discipline.

Busy as farmers, they are always willing to put aside their work to be on duty at their unit around the clock on certain days in a week.

Following a siren on a typical day recently, it took only two minutes for the women to get into position on the cannon plate.

The single-barrel 37-milimeter flak cannon has been in use since 1967, and is still functioning well after nearly five decades.

“We have maintained a strict duty schedule with a battery on round-the-clock standby to detect targets and come up with combat approaches,” Huong Ly, the company chief, said.

The battery is also tasked with announcing daily flight schedules from the provincial Military Command and relevant units, in addition to conducting patrols, standing guard, and mobilizing forces to ensure maximum security on major public holidays and during political events at central and local levels, she added.

“The all-female air defense cannon company is unique nationwide,” Senior Lieutenant Pham Van Dong, officer of Tien Hai District Military Command, beamed with pride.

The battery’s youngest member is Tran Thi Luong, 32, while the most experienced is Luong Thi Duong, the company’s deputy chief, who has been onboard for 14 years now.

Exposed to the scorching sun and performing strenuous maneuvers with the cannon during drills, the women all have suntanned skin, wiry hair, coarse- faces and rough hands.

The current company’s predecessor was the all-female Tien Hai District Militia Company, which was formed in December 1967 and was made up of 82 militiawomen aged 18 to 25.

The forerunner was tasked with safeguarding the Lan sewage pipe system, which supplied irrigation water to 40,000 hectares of paddy fields in the province’s four southern districts.

They were also integral to the protection of three bridges on one of the district’s arteries, and keeping a tight rein on enemy aircraft’s activity at the estuaries to the Hong River, one of the northern region’s major waterways, and the Tra Ly River.

When the American war in Vietnam ended in 1975, the forerunning company had been engaged in 129 battles of different scales, shot down two U.S. planes, and along with a local soldier company, gunned down and damaged four others.

The unit, which was named ‘[People’s Armed Forces Heroic Unit’ in December 1973, continued to function until 1984, when it was handed over to the administration of Dong Lam Commune People’s Committee and had its name changed into the current Militiawomen Company 4.

The unit, now tasked with safeguarding the province’s southern sky, has worked seamlessly on a regular basis with major military entities including Radar Station 25, Air Defense-Air Force Division 363 and Military Zone 3’s Division 395 in devising combat approaches.

The company has a current membership of 40 and a battery operating day and night.

On the country’s special occasions, such as the 12th National Congress of the Communist Party of Vietnam, held in January 2016, two cannons are invariably in place for action.

Boundless dedication, passion

Its members spend every Wednesday training rigorously on the drill grounds.

Maneuvers include getting the cannons ready and moving the barrels upward and downward, which require only three men, but up to 10 women, to perform.

Such taxing drills drain the women out physically.

Many of its members have difficulty eking out a living, as monthly militia allowances of nearly VND3 million (US$133) hardly suffices.

But for their profound respect of the company’s glorious past and ceaseless passion for artillery, they would likely seek jobs as workers at Tien Hai Industrial Park in the vicinity, which can earn them double what they can as a militiawoman.

“I met with fierce family objection before finally joining the company in 2012,” 32-year-old Luong, the battery’s youngest member, recalled.

She has managed to gain her husband’s support for her indulgence, and trusted him with caring for their young children as well as household chores.

Ly, the company chief, who has been on the job for almost 10 years, shared that she has been infatuated with weaponry and nurtured her dream of becoming a cannon militiawoman since a child.

“I was involved from 2001 to 2009, before I got married and stayed home to nurse my baby,” she added.

“I later insisted that my husband allow me to return to my dream job. He didn’t give his permission until early last year, when our son turned four.”
 
June 6, Bedford (Virginia/ United States)

Congratulation to Lapthe Flora, a native of Saigon, the former poor Vietnamese boat refugee becomes Brigadier General of the Virginia National Guard.

He has come a long way. Born as son of a South Vietnamese merchant marine, a Saigon native, fled Vietnam when he turned 18. Spending three years hiding in the jungle, then fled by boat to Indonesia, where he was placed in a harsh refugee camp.

After being adopted by a Roanoke County couple, John and Audrey Flora, he quickly learned English and graduated from Cave Spring High School in just three years. He then attended Virginia Military Institute, where he earned a degree in biology and accepted a commission into the U.S. Army Reserve in 1987.

Transferred to the Virginia Army National Guard, he was deployed overseas three times, to Bosnia, Kosovo and Afghanistan.


COL_LaptheFlora_web-240x300.jpg



Lapthe+Flora.jpg







Lapthe-C.-Flora-768x512.jpg



5756255ee98ff.image.jpg



 
Not cheap. Developed by Institute of Technical Engineers, the domestic made UAV-02 drone as target for Su-30 bombers. every drone costs about $120,000. specs: 2 engines; wide 2.8 m; length 2.5 m; top speed 350 kmh; range 100 km; max altitude 8,000 m; weight 38 kg; can operate for 45 minutes.


uav02-thanh-tuu-quoc-phong-viet-nam-nam-2014_10639563.jpg


uav02-thanh-tuu-quoc-phong-viet-nam-nam-2014_10643967.jpg



uav02-thanh-tuu-quoc-phong-viet-nam-nam-2014_10638185.jpg



video-muc-tieu-bay-cho-su30mk2-cua-khong-quan-viet-nam.jpg


uav02-thanh-tuu-quoc-phong-viet-nam-nam-2014_10644613.jpg


anh-5.jpg





lo-so-tien-moi-lan-su30mk2-viet-nam-khai-hoa_7164580.jpg
 
Not cheap. Developed by Institute of Technical Engineers, the domestic made UAV-02 drone as target for Su-30 bombers. every drone costs about $120,000. specs: 2 engines; wide 2.8 m; length 2.5 m; top speed 350 kmh; range 100 km; max altitude 8,000 m; weight 38 kg; can operate for 45 minutes.


uav02-thanh-tuu-quoc-phong-viet-nam-nam-2014_10639563.jpg


uav02-thanh-tuu-quoc-phong-viet-nam-nam-2014_10643967.jpg



uav02-thanh-tuu-quoc-phong-viet-nam-nam-2014_10638185.jpg



video-muc-tieu-bay-cho-su30mk2-cua-khong-quan-viet-nam.jpg


uav02-thanh-tuu-quoc-phong-viet-nam-nam-2014_10644613.jpg


anh-5.jpg





lo-so-tien-moi-lan-su30mk2-viet-nam-khai-hoa_7164580.jpg

Only 350km/h? man that is nothing for $120,000? That's a rip off. I can build a better one and faster for $30,000.00 look below.

http://www.jetcatusa.com/rc-turbines/turbine-details/p200-sx/

p200sx1__large.jpg
 
India plans expanded missile export drive, with China on its mind
By REUTERS

PUBLISHED: 23:00 GMT, 8 June 2016 | UPDATED: 23:00 GMT, 8 June 2016

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/re...expanded-missile-export-drive-China-mind.html

By Sanjeev Miglani

NEW DELHI, June 9 (Reuters) - India has stepped up efforts to sell an advanced cruise missile system to Vietnam and has at least 15 more markets in its sights, a push experts say reflects concerns in New Delhi about China's growing military assertiveness.

Selling the supersonic BrahMos missile, made by an Indo-Russian joint venture, would mark a shift for the world's biggest arms importer, as India seeks to send weapons the other way in order to shore up partners' defences and boost revenues.

The government of Prime Minister Narendra Modi has ordered BrahMos Aerospace, which produces the missiles, to accelerate sales to a list of five countries topped by Vietnam, according to a government note viewed by Reuters and previously unreported.

The others are Indonesia, South Africa, Chile and Brazil.

The Philippines is at the top of a second list of 11 nations including Malaysia, Thailand and United Arab Emirates, countries which had "expressed interest but need further discussions and analysis", the undated note added.

A source familiar with the matter would only say the note was issued earlier this year.

New Delhi had been sitting on a 2011 request from Hanoi for the BrahMos for fear of angering China, which sees the weapon, reputed to be the world's fastest cruise missile with a top speed of up to three times the speed of sound, as destabilising.

Indonesia and the Philippines had also asked for the BrahMos, which has a range of 290 km and can be fired from land, sea and submarine. An air-launched version is under testing.


WARY EYE ON CHINA

Unlike Vietnam, the Philippines and Malaysia, India is not a party to territorial disputes in the South China Sea, a vital global trade route which China claims most of.

But India has an unsettled land border with China and in recent years has grown concerned over its powerful neighbour's expanding maritime presence in the Indian Ocean.

It has railed against China's military assistance to arch-rival Pakistan and privately fumed over Chinese submarines docking in Sri Lanka, just off the toe of India.

"Policymakers in Delhi were long constrained by the belief that advanced defence cooperation with Washington or Hanoi could provoke aggressive and undesirable responses from Beijing," said Jeff M. Smith, Director of Asian Security Programs at the American Foreign Policy Council in Washington.

"Prime Minister Modi and his team of advisers have essentially turned that thinking on its head, concluding that stronger defence relationships with the U.S., Japan, and Vietnam actually put India on stronger footing in its dealings with China."

India's export push comes as it emerges from decades of isolation over its nuclear arms programme.

It is poised to join the Missile Technology Control Regime (MTCR) after talks between Modi and U.S. President Barack Obama in Washington this week. BrahMos' range means it falls short of the 300 km limit set by the voluntary organisation.

India's accession to the MTCR may also strengthen its case for joining another non-proliferation body, the Nuclear Suppliers Group, a move China has effectively blocked. Both groups would give India greater access to research and technology.

BrahMos Aerospace, co-owned by the Indian and Russian governments, said discussions were underway with several countries on missile exports, but it was too early to be more specific.

"Talks are going on, there will be a deal," said spokesman Praveen Pathak.

India is still a marginal player in global arms exports. The unit cost of the missile, fitted on Indian naval ships, is estimated at around $3 million.


GETTING CLOSER TO VIETNAM

India has been steadily building military ties with Vietnam and is supplying offshore patrol boats under a $100 million credit line, its biggest overseas military aid.

This week Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar held talks with his Vietnamese counterpart General Ngo Xuan Lich in Hanoi and both sides agreed to exchange information on commercial shipping as well as expand hydrographic cooperation, the Indian defence ministry said in a statement on Monday.

A source at the defence ministry said India was hoping to conclude negotiations on the supply of BrahMos to Vietnam by the end of the year.

The Indian government is also considering a proposal to offer Vietnam a battleship armed with the BrahMos missiles instead of just the missile battery, the source said.

"A frigate integrated with the BrahMos can play a decisive role, it can be a real deterrent in the South China Sea," the source said, adding New Delhi would have to expand the line of credit to cover the cost of the ship.

Indian warships are armed with configurations of eight or 16 BrahMos missiles each, while sets of two or four would go on smaller vessels.

A Russian official said exports of BrahMos to third countries was part of the founding agreement of the India-Russia joint venture. Only now India had armed its own military with the BrahMos was there capacity to consider exporting, he added. (Additional reporting by Douglas Busvine; Editing by Mike Collett-White)
 
India plans expanded missile export drive, with China on its mind
By REUTERS

PUBLISHED: 23:00 GMT, 8 June 2016 | UPDATED: 23:00 GMT, 8 June 2016

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/re...expanded-missile-export-drive-China-mind.html

By Sanjeev Miglani

NEW DELHI, June 9 (Reuters) - India has stepped up efforts to sell an advanced cruise missile system to Vietnam and has at least 15 more markets in its sights, a push experts say reflects concerns in New Delhi about China's growing military assertiveness.

Selling the supersonic BrahMos missile, made by an Indo-Russian joint venture, would mark a shift for the world's biggest arms importer, as India seeks to send weapons the other way in order to shore up partners' defences and boost revenues.

The government of Prime Minister Narendra Modi has ordered BrahMos Aerospace, which produces the missiles, to accelerate sales to a list of five countries topped by Vietnam, according to a government note viewed by Reuters and previously unreported.

The others are Indonesia, South Africa, Chile and Brazil.

The Philippines is at the top of a second list of 11 nations including Malaysia, Thailand and United Arab Emirates, countries which had "expressed interest but need further discussions and analysis", the undated note added.

A source familiar with the matter would only say the note was issued earlier this year.

New Delhi had been sitting on a 2011 request from Hanoi for the BrahMos for fear of angering China, which sees the weapon, reputed to be the world's fastest cruise missile with a top speed of up to three times the speed of sound, as destabilising.

Indonesia and the Philippines had also asked for the BrahMos, which has a range of 290 km and can be fired from land, sea and submarine. An air-launched version is under testing.


WARY EYE ON CHINA

Unlike Vietnam, the Philippines and Malaysia, India is not a party to territorial disputes in the South China Sea, a vital global trade route which China claims most of.

But India has an unsettled land border with China and in recent years has grown concerned over its powerful neighbour's expanding maritime presence in the Indian Ocean.

It has railed against China's military assistance to arch-rival Pakistan and privately fumed over Chinese submarines docking in Sri Lanka, just off the toe of India.

"Policymakers in Delhi were long constrained by the belief that advanced defence cooperation with Washington or Hanoi could provoke aggressive and undesirable responses from Beijing," said Jeff M. Smith, Director of Asian Security Programs at the American Foreign Policy Council in Washington.

"Prime Minister Modi and his team of advisers have essentially turned that thinking on its head, concluding that stronger defence relationships with the U.S., Japan, and Vietnam actually put India on stronger footing in its dealings with China."

India's export push comes as it emerges from decades of isolation over its nuclear arms programme.

It is poised to join the Missile Technology Control Regime (MTCR) after talks between Modi and U.S. President Barack Obama in Washington this week. BrahMos' range means it falls short of the 300 km limit set by the voluntary organisation.

India's accession to the MTCR may also strengthen its case for joining another non-proliferation body, the Nuclear Suppliers Group, a move China has effectively blocked. Both groups would give India greater access to research and technology.

BrahMos Aerospace, co-owned by the Indian and Russian governments, said discussions were underway with several countries on missile exports, but it was too early to be more specific.

"Talks are going on, there will be a deal," said spokesman Praveen Pathak.

India is still a marginal player in global arms exports. The unit cost of the missile, fitted on Indian naval ships, is estimated at around $3 million.


GETTING CLOSER TO VIETNAM

India has been steadily building military ties with Vietnam and is supplying offshore patrol boats under a $100 million credit line, its biggest overseas military aid.

This week Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar held talks with his Vietnamese counterpart General Ngo Xuan Lich in Hanoi and both sides agreed to exchange information on commercial shipping as well as expand hydrographic cooperation, the Indian defence ministry said in a statement on Monday.

A source at the defence ministry said India was hoping to conclude negotiations on the supply of BrahMos to Vietnam by the end of the year.

The Indian government is also considering a proposal to offer Vietnam a battleship armed with the BrahMos missiles instead of just the missile battery, the source said.

"A frigate integrated with the BrahMos can play a decisive role, it can be a real deterrent in the South China Sea," the source said, adding New Delhi would have to expand the line of credit to cover the cost of the ship.

Indian warships are armed with configurations of eight or 16 BrahMos missiles each, while sets of two or four would go on smaller vessels.

A Russian official said exports of BrahMos to third countries was part of the founding agreement of the India-Russia joint venture. Only now India had armed its own military with the BrahMos was there capacity to consider exporting, he added. (Additional reporting by Douglas Busvine; Editing by Mike Collett-White)

 
Only 350km/h? man that is nothing for $120,000? That's a rip off. I can build a better one and faster for $30,000.00 look below.

http://www.jetcatusa.com/rc-turbines/turbine-details/p200-sx/

p200sx1__large.jpg

But no man, you didn't think about the whole range of cost involved in making such equipment in Vietnam, for example:
Tea money for the director of the military owned company that makes the drones
Tea money for the vice director of the military owned company that makes the drones
Tea money for the purchasing manager of the military owned company that makes the drones, or do you expect that he will order the parts without earning commission?
Tea money for the accountant of the military owned company that makes the drones so that she can cover up for all the tea money been given to the others
Some tea money for other officials in the ministry of defense so that they can look the other way about the high cost of the drones
Etc, etc

So you see? Its not cheap to make a drone like that in Vietnam.
 
Last edited:
Vietnam Navy officiers visited P-3C in airbase in USA.

avar-1465317479862-135-0-472-660-crop-1465317523545.jpg


BAE Systems sets sights on Vietnam
Jon Grevatt, Bangkok - IHS Jane's Defence Weekly
07 June 2016


BAE Systems (from UK) is undertaking a project to expand its understanding of Vietnam, with a view to potential market penetration. The move coincides with the United States' recent decision to lift its long-standing military embargo on the Southeast Asian country.

Nick Glover, BAE Systems' Southeast Asia vice president, told IHS Jane's recently that the company is "assessing" Vietnam and potential opportunities, not only in its defence market but in adjacent sectors such as homeland security.

"Vietnam could be an interesting market," he said. "We have been assessing industrial capability within the country and we are looking at potential opportunities. It could be a market where we look to enter through Applied Intelligence [BAE Systems' cyber security division] or our HADR [Humanitarian Assistance, Disaster Relief] products."
 
India plans expanded missile export drive, with China on its mind



A source at the defence ministry said India was hoping to conclude negotiations on the supply of BrahMos to Vietnam by the end of the year.

The Indian government is also considering a proposal to offer Vietnam a battleship armed with the BrahMos missiles instead of just the missile battery, the source said.

"A frigate integrated with the BrahMos can play a decisive role, it can be a real deterrent in the South China Sea," the source said, adding New Delhi would have to expand the line of credit to cover the cost of the ship.

Indian warships are armed with configurations of eight or 16 BrahMos missiles each, while sets of two or four would go on smaller vessels.

A Russian official said exports of BrahMos to third countries was part of the founding agreement of the India-Russia joint venture. Only now India had armed its own military with the BrahMos was there capacity to consider exporting, he added. (Additional reporting by Douglas Busvine; Editing by Mike Collett-White)
having 6 frigates armed by brahmos antiship missiles, that will be a nice thing no matter whether game changer or not. more fun.

there are other things under discustion too. modernization of thermal sights and fire control systems for BMP, T 54 and T 55 tanks, MI-17/ Mi-8 Helicopters, cooperation in shipbuilding programmes, missile systems, radios.

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com...ilitary-modernistion/articleshow/52619485.cms
 

Latest posts

Back
Top Bottom