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Killing unarmed sailors is not really a sign of strength and braveness, but an unethical act.

I can tell here another story.

In the great battle of Ninh-kieu (North Vietnam) of Dec 4, 1426, 100,000 men Ming army led by chinese general Wang Tong were encircled, ambushed. at the end of the battle, only 10,000 Chinese soldiers survived and were sent to prisoner camps.

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Killing unarmed sailors is not really a sign of strength and braveness, but an unethical act.

I can tell here another story.

In the great battle of Ninh-kieu (North Vietnam) of Dec 4, 1426, 100,000 men Ming army led by chinese general Wang Tong were encircled, ambushed. at the end of the battle, only 10,000 Chinese soldiers survived and were sent to prisoner camps.

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1. Do you recognize AK-47 a weapon?

2.You can tell whatever the story you want but the truth is :
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......For the next thousand years, what is now northern Vietnam remained mostly under Chinese rule.[23] Early independence movements, such as those of the Trưng Sisters and Lady Triệu, were only temporarily successful, though the region gained a longer period of independence as Vạn Xuân under the Anterior Lý dynasty between AD 544 and 602.[24] By the early 10th century, Vietnam had gained autonomy, but not sovereignty, under the Khúc family....."

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1. Do you recognize AK-47 a weapon?

2.You can tell whatever the story you want but the truth is :
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......For the next thousand years, what is now northern Vietnam remained mostly under Chinese rule.[23] Early independence movements, such as those of the Trưng Sisters and Lady Triệu, were only temporarily successful, though the region gained a longer period of independence as Vạn Xuân under the Anterior Lý dynasty between AD 544 and 602.[24] By the early 10th century, Vietnam had gained autonomy, but not sovereignty, under the Khúc family....."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam
Being a part of Imperial tributary system of China does not equal loss of sovereignty. Vietnam or other tribute paying countries did not necessarily follow chinese law and order, neither subject to chinese foreign policy nor tax regime. sure, Chinese imperial court saw things with different views and eyes, and considered some of Vietnam domestic and foreign policy as provocation. but end of the story is, although Vietnam being a part of tribute system, we have autonomy.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/china/history-tributary-states.htm

 
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Being a part of Imperial tributary system of China does not equal loss of sovereignty. Vietnam or other tribute paying countries did not necessarily follow chinese law and order, neither subject to chinese foreign policy nor tax regime. sure, Chinese imperial court saw things with different views and eyes, and considered some of Vietnam domestic and foreign policy as provocation. but end of the story is, although Vietnam being a part of tribute system, we have autonomy.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/china/history-tributary-states.htm


Ok, let me help you...

" the next thousand years, what is now northern Vietnam remained mostly under Chinese rule."

Direct rule! include law, tax, foreign....etc
 
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Ok, let me help you...

" the next thousand years, what is now northern Vietnam remained mostly under Chinese rule."

Direct rule! include law, tax, foreign....etc
yes, direct rule, but read the article again, that is the period from 111 bc to 938 ad.

Chinese direct rule ended with the establishment of the Ngo dynasty in year 939.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ngô_dynasty

 
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Mistral-class ship made port call in Cam Ranh
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AGS 17 automatic grenade launcher, with M-79 and Mikor, its formed a formidable mid range weapon

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Vietnam "inherited" 7 US transport aircraft Lockheed C-130. the planes played a major part in the military campaign against Cambodia in 1978.

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also, US stuffs:

M113 armor transporter, M48 Patton tank
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and the mother of artillery M107 175mm. some should continue to be in service today.
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All US medium to heavy equipments have almost phase out of service or in storage now. Like this guy

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I post here some more pics of French warship Tonnerre to the Cam Ranh bay. Joint drills for unplanned encounters with the Vietnam Navy is planned. More fun games are coming. French subs are sold like hot cakes today.


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Something different, maybe we can modify the design and make a warship from it.


Shipyard Vard in Vung Tau (Vietnam)
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Yacht Made in Vietnam

specs:

  • length 270 foot
  • 59-foot beam
  • max 15.4 knots, cruising speed of 12 knots
  • the hull fully made in Vietnam owned by the Norwegian commercial builder Vard
  • steel hull with a class notation of ICE-C allowing it to operate in light ice conditions
  • can travel for a month without having to make landfall,
  • 36 guests
  • a full helicopter pad and hangar, indoor and outdoor swimming pools, and an on-deck soccer pitch, but allows for flexibility with the design
  • feature the latest navigational technologies, such as dynamic positioning system that keeps the yacht set in one place via GPS, and joystick maneuvering for easy navigating and docking
  • cost $62 million






- See more at: http://robbreport.com/boating-yacht...t-designed-explore-globe#sthash.x1CAK75V.dpuf
 
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What are the design changes? I mean, I know about the addition of the ASW package, but is there anything else?

The hull is changed.

The hull shapes become more correct from the point of view of the naval design and also the ship now looks more beautiful thanks to them.
In comparison to the first series of Gepard
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Danang May 3.

Coming a long way from South Korea, a welcome greeting to the vessel of South Korean Coast Guard.


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Vietnam Urges US to Lift Lethal Weapons Ban Amid S. China Sea Tensions

May 02, 2016 6:00 PM
Voice of America


FILE - A Vietnamese coast guard officer looks at a Vietnamese coast guard vessel in the South China Sea, May 14, 2014. Vietnam has faced increasingly aggressive Chinese territorial claims to sections of the South China Sea, where Vietnamese maritime patrols have faced off against Chinese naval forces.


AUSTIN, TEXAS— Vietnam's ambassador to the United States has called on President Barack Obama to fully lift a "lethal weapons" embargo on the Southeast Asian nation.

Addressing the recent Vietnam War Summit in Austin, Texas, Ambassador Pham Quang Vinh said Obama's planned visit this month only underscores the strength of U.S.-Vietnamese relations, and that a full relaxation of the ban should reflect that level of trust.

"Today, Vietnam and the U.S. have a solid foundation for a stronger partnership," he said. "Vietnam urges the U.S. to fully lift the lethal weapons ban, [because] Vietnam believes that this element of barrier of the past should be removed to reflect our full normalization of relations started two decades ago, and the current level of our comprehensive partnership."

On the day Vinh spoke, U.S. Defense Secretary Ash Carter said in a Senate Armed Services Committee hearing that he would support lifting restrictions on the sale of weapons to Vietnam.


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Vietnam Ambassador to the United States Pham Quang Vinh delivered the speech at the Vietnam War Summit.


The U.S. partially lifted its three decade ban on lethal arms sales to Vietnam in October 2014, immediately after Foreign Minister Pham Binh Minh, who also is deputy prime minister, met with Secretary of State John Kerry in Washington.

The sudden shift in policy drew criticism from various rights groups, including New York-based Human Rights Watch, which has long protested Hanoi's treatment of opposition figures and ethnic and religious minorities.



FILE - Pham Quang Vinh, Vietnam Ambassador to the U.S., meets Luci Baines Johnson, a daughter of former President Lyndon B. Johnson, during the Vietnam War Summit at the LBJ Presidential Library in Austin, Texas, April 28, 2016.


At the time, the State Department described the move as "allowing for the future transfer of maritime security-related" military hardware to its former foe, and said that because the U.S. is aware of human rights concerns about Vietnam, all sales would be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. Vietnam has since faced increasingly aggressive Chinese territorial claims to large swaths of the resource-rich South China Sea, where Vietnamese maritime patrols have faced off against Chinese naval forces on several occasions.

Hanoi has long denied accusations from human rights organizations on media censorship and restricted Internet access, saying it does not jail dissidents, but imprisons only convicted criminals.

Kerry is expected to join the state visit by Obama, who will be the third consecutive U.S. president to make the trip.
 
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