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Refute what he said, he's just calling spade a spade....Please educate us on AN/AAQ-37 detecting a r27 800 miles away, do you know how retarded it sounds....

You are telling me to "refute" what he said. And in the same line, you are telling me how "retarded" my statement sounds (which is pretty much what he meant also) :hitwall:

I'll let time prove what I said here. You will just have to wait a few years and find out.
 
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You are telling me to "refute" what he said. And in the same line, you are telling me how "retarded" my statement sounds (which is pretty much what he meant also) :hitwall:

I'll let time prove what I said here. You will just have to wait a few years and find out.

Lets keep this technical. Kindly Explain how 800 mile detection is possible keeping all the Anti Thermal factors in place.
 
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You are telling me to "refute" what he said. And in the same line, you are telling me how "retarded" my statement sounds (which is pretty much what he meant also) :hitwall:

I'll let time prove what I said here. You will just have to wait a few years and find out.
Your statement "the -35 can detect any size missile's firing / after burn from 800 miles away." detection of an IR signature of a BM is comprehend-able, but when your claim is "any size" so please educate us... How will DAS detect an AAM sized missile launch 800 miles.
In my opinion 800 miles detection of "any missile" launch sounds retarded, and thus my statement, but then again you have the opportunity to make me eat my words, if you do substantiate the claim...

Lets keep this technical. Kindly Explain how 800 mile detection is possible keeping all the Anti Thermal factors in place.
you have high hopes! :)
 
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and thus my statement, but then again you have the opportunity to make me eat my words, if you do substantiate the claim...

I'll let time make you eat your words. Too much information can cause mental overflow at times so how about we wait and see on here
 
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one would think most a2a kills would come from short range missiles like the AIM-9 and Archer.
can't beat them IR homing missiles baby
 
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I'll let time make you eat your words. Too much information can cause mental overflow at times so how about we wait and see on here
So @Didact presented known published capabilities of DAS, to counter which you went on your typical inferiority complex diatribe about jobs and other BS, but couldn't refute a damn thing about the topic at hand... Nothing surprising there...

Comeback when you have content.
 
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1) I am not the one who called you retarded. You and your cousin did. Inferiority complex out of the entire world is found in your culture. I didn't mean to start this, but I am answering this so it shouldn't be taken as, "oh he started offensive language". Out of the entire world, the cast system that divides humans into servant-level classes exists in your culture. That is the KEY from which your posts here and your daily conversations start and end. If you see your posts, you and your cousin country-men, both played "superior Indian beings" and called my posts retarded and all. Which shows your cast system that separates people with associated lower cast level intellect and ability.

2) You can take the "published" content and take it up the rear. It doesn't matter. Reality is reality and as time passes by, you'll learn more about the subject. End of the story.

Last, nothing surprising here either. When an entire nation runs on a cast system that separates people into lower categories and then associated their capability and ability according to the per-judged levels, you'll always treat others as lower level human beings. So it's very common to see that cultural and religious aspect in all of your posts. Notice one time that I haven't called your post, intellect or anything with the similar titles that you and your friend / country-men have granted me with luxury!

Never go full retard... never!

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btw you can enjoy the rear end business to yourself, i dont roll that way!
 
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Answering a culturally retard doesn't mean the other party went retard, retard.
Facepalm !

looks like touched some strings here... i didn't call you a retard, just your line of reasoning... but it's not just me, is it?
 
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:agree::agree: heard of it very well ....... this discussion is about the capability of Air to Air BVR missiles not the capability of F-35 :hitwall:

Hey mister!
When you cant take no more, you cry "Off Topic" as above....

But you forgot that, you yourself indulged into it, that is, F-35 just two minutes ago....Lol

F-35 spead is less than 1.6 mach which is 2.5 times less than BVR missiles speed. In a scenario if BVR missile fired at the distance of 350 km from target, if aircraft and missile travels towards each other, in this case F-35 travels 100 km while BVR travels 250 km. It will still takes 2-3 minutes to reach target! Still more than 3 minutes!
 
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There are some facts which could be proven by basic Physics and common sense.

1. IR detection works on line of sight principle by virtue of basic fact that electromagnetic Radiation travels in straight line. At 12,000m of altitude ( max stated cruising Altitude of F-16), An Aircraft could see 391 Km into horizon.

Calculation: d2 = h2 + 2Rh


For utilizing full 700 km capacity, an Aircraft has to be 38 Km up in sky, more than maximum altitude of Eurofighter and one that could be achieved only in no-weapon, minimum fuel configuration.

2. Detection of IR emissions depend on strength of emission. A ballistic missile plum is large and could theoretically be detected from great distance. In addition to that, a BM is gaining altitude thus bringing it within the range of both Airborne and Ground based detectors ( a cornerstone of BMD ). On the other hand, an AAM has very small heat signature and detecting it from large distance is next to impossible, and this cannot be made possible by designing better detectors as this limitation is imposed by signal detection theory. In case of a small emitter, if you try to improve true positive, you could do that only by increasing false positives at same time. This is what makes an F-22 stealthy, not it's shape or coating; if this restriction is not there, enemy would simply change software codes of it's radar to pick small RCS object.All Radars pick up low RCS objects; they just assign them to be background noise. Limitation imposed by SDT ensures that if a conventional radar is set to detect F-22, it would be buzzing all the time.

3. IR emissions depend highly on weather. Cloudy sky would reduce maximum effective distance an AAM launch could be detected.



These are conclusions that could be drawn from simple physics.
Lets see what reply this derives, i am sure it is going to be about jobs in US, incomprehensible mathematics! :crazy_pilot:

Let me repeat.
Prove that 800 mile claim.
you are wasting your time.....
 
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There are some facts which could be proven by basic Physics and common sense.

1. IR detection works on line of sight principle by virtue of basic fact that electromagnetic Radiation travels in straight line. At 12,000m of altitude ( max stated cruising Altitude of F-16), An Aircraft could see 391 Km into horizon.

Calculation: d2 = h2 + 2Rh
These are conclusions that could be drawn from simple physics.

There we go. Do me a favor, take this basic shi*tty equation to someone who's working on sensitive techs like DAS and ask them what they think. You are making yourself look like a fool. Typical Indian response with Maths or Physics.

If making advance tech was literally this easy, that a basic formula from Physics can do the job, why do you think the Russians, the Europeans and others don't have the tech? This is at the best, the ultimate stupidity for anyone to take the basic principles and use them as a fact in situations like this. Ever see a Space Shuttle? Ever read the Third Law of Motion? Now if I took the basic law, I should be able to understand how much force I'll need through a shuttle to go get to the space in certain time and velocity being variables.

Is that TRUE? HELL Fuc*king no. If the basic formula from the third law of motion was all it was needed, everyone would've had a LOT more tech than the do today. Wish this stuff was this simple like a basic IR calculation !!

Way to go. Continue with this work. If you are building something this sensitive, like your LCA, you'll be reaching across the Atlantic pretty soon for help with this. Enjoy!

your claim is f35's can detect "Any" missile launch at 800 miles radius.....substantiate it or shut up...not by some made up intellectual caste system of PDF

Take my claim, put some Jack on it and stick it up the rear. I don't have to proof nothing to you. I have seen your and your friends' intellect for sure and I am not impressed. You should meet my employees who are ALSO from India and see how sharp those guys are. In fact, I'll share this little discussion with them when I see them tomorrow
 
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Take my claim, put some Jack on it and stick it up the rear. I don't have to prove nothing to you. I have seen your and your friends' intellect for sure and I am not impressed. You should meet my employees who are ALSO from India and see how sharp those guys are. In fact, I'll share this little discussion with them when I see them tomorrow
Quite predictable..... quite sad!

That's it? Its the SAME with you. I told you, you were using negative tactics all along from post 1. You think you can call me retard and all that. But a little straight forward talk and you gave me negative rating for no good reason and a positive rating to your Indian buddy when he had nothing positive to contribute.

@WebMaster : Please go through these posts with user sandy_3126 and see the type of language I've had to put up with. This is abuse of power that someone can just give you negative rating when their own language isn't appropriate in many posts.
 
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That's it? Its the SAME with you. I told you, you were using negative tactics all along from post 1. You think you can call me retard and all that. But a little straight forward talk and you gave me negative rating for no good reason and a positive rating to your Indian buddy when he had nothing positive to contribute.

@WebMaster : Please go through these posts with user sandy_3126 and see the type of language I've had to put up with. This is abuse of power that someone can just give you negative rating when their own language isn't appropriate in many posts.
take it up with the moderators, if they find my rating wrong they will reverse it...

My post in question is :
Refute what he said, he's just calling spade a spade....Please educate us on AN/AAQ-37 detecting a r27 800 miles away, do you know how retarded it sounds....

Forget mathematics, looks like even comprehension here is not a strong suite... i didn't call you a retard but the argument that defies physics retarded... let me know if you need further disambiguation
 
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