Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez dies

[ashokdeiva]

No one is saying anyone must suppressed their feelings and emotions. But what I am saying is that people should be CIRCUMSPECT regarding their feelings and emotions

Definition
Adjective
Wary and unwilling to take risks.

Least of all towards politicians for you have endowed them to make decisions that affects your life and your children's lives. If those decisions are for the better, then give the politician the confidence of your vote and your nod of the head. But if those decisions are for the worse, then remove him, either by the ballet box or the cartridge box.

Unfettered feelings and emotions can lead anyone astray and any spiritual guru can tell you that, right?

Pay respect for a deceased politician who done good by attending his/her funeral with your hats off. Take a day leave with no pay, if you have to. But NEVER shed tears.

This is applicable only as a result of evolution in thought process.
of the 7 billion world population, how many are there weak in their minds to run away from a confrontation for what they belive is right. if there is more that 90 % who are strong in their minds, then what you expect on the respect for leader will happen, until then there will be cry and tear on the lose of a leader.
so what does USA do to make the worlds population strong in their minds? are you educating them, making them strong from the inside out, I dont think so, you are bombing the weak, you are inflicting wonds which might result in the birth of Nazism in a new name.

 

[Slav Defence]

Man, he is from Latin America. when did the tactonic plates changed that Venezuela joined the European continent

i said that in other sense,mister
by that i meant that he condamned various false american policies...

 

[Mahmoud_EGY]

If the US had to 'support' a dictator, it is because that country can produce nothing else better. Let me put it this way: Shinzo Abe did not came from China but was borned in Japan. Francois Mitterand did not came from Spain but from France. The US hired a Texan named George HW Bush, not a politician from Spain, to be US President.

So if we have to 'support' a country's dictator, it is not because we share his ideologies and his politics. It is because his country and ours have shared interests, no matter how brief. You criticize US for 'supporting' dictators? How about criticizing your own people for supporting Mubarak?

who supported mubark ? we forced him to leave and he is in prison
and what did the US do after that they supported the MB you never learn

 

[Star Wars]

May he be at Peace..... This whole thing sounds like an assassination to me....

 

[born]

Keyword search use too difficult? Sorry you have this condition.

Yes I agree he's not democratic. But the venezuelans love him, except for some rich people ofcourse .They consider him as their leader. This is a fact. What's your problem?
Consumed by hate ?? Sorry u have this condition .

To show the fallacy of your argument. If the US is not immune from criticism, neither is Venezuela and neither is India. So if you believe that negative criticisms of Venezuela must be only from some sort of conspiracy by the Western media, same must be about India, right?

My god ,what are you blabbering about. Did i mention anything abt anyone criticizing US? Yes nobody is immune from criticism but criticisms should be justified otherwise it will be the same as hate .

 

[Gandhi G in da house]

RIP.

Don't know enough about him to comment on his character and effect on Latin America but nevertheless ,i grew up listening to his name and watching his face on the news so feel some sadness at his demise.

Hope whatever follows is good for the people of Venezuela and Latin America as well as the rest of the world.

 

[doublemaster]

Great leader.....RIP

 

[anon45]

Go to hell, American trolls.

Chaves has inspired millions of people and many countries in their fight against American bullies., as someone above said, he's a leader who stood tall in the face of evil west.

Solute to a great man in the cause of more equal and even world.

He certainly was vitriolic against the West, particularly the US, and if that is your measure of a great leader, then he was certainly a 'great leader', just like Kim Jong Il was a 'great leader'.

But if the measure of a leader is the wealth and prosperity of their country, then Chavez has failed miserably.

If the measure of a leader is a real independent judiciary and relatively safe streets then Chavez has failed miserably.


If the measure of a leader is to be free of foreign influence, then Chavez has failed miserably. Chavez certainly rid his country of much US and European influence, only to bend over for the Russians, Chinese, Iranians, and Cubans. The man didn't make Venezuela independent, he only switched his masters. Of course you wouldn't care, to a person like you, anything that is against the west and the US must be to the good.

People in Venezuela are certainly more equal, equal in poverty. Everyone has a more equal share of the pie, (except for those in power, who of course have a more 'equal' share than the others) but the pie isn't any bigger, and it tastes like crap.

 

[Slav Defence]

RIP.

Don't know enough about him to comment on his character and effect on Latin America but nevertheless ,i grew up listening to his name and watching his face on the news so feel some sadness at his demise.

Hope whatever follows is good for the people of Venezuela and Latin America as well as the rest of the world.

now that is one sensible comment.......

 

[gambit]

who supported mubark ? we forced him to leave and he is in prison
and what did the US do after that they supported the MB you never learn

You are telling me that all these decades, not one Egyptian supported Mubarak? You are the worst kind of debater -- intellectually dishonest.

 

[S.Y.A]

Another crazy dictator dies. Assad next?

I would say Assad is the only one stopping the general public in Syria from going against Israel: a country in the hands of fundamentalist Muslims will prove much more dangerous to Israel than the current one under Assad

 

[Navigator]

RIP.. He was great leader for Venezeula and true friend and ally for all independent nations

 

[Mahmoud_EGY]

You are telling me that all these decades, not one Egyptian supported Mubarak? You are the worst kind of debater -- intellectually dishonest.

when the amircan revolution started there was some people who supported the English king also every regime however what he done has supporters

 

[gambit]

Yes I agree he's not democratic. But the venezuelans love him, except for some rich people ofcourse .They consider him as their leader. This is a fact. What's your problem?
Consumed by hate ?? Sorry u have this condition .

You do not elevate the poor by taking from the rich. That short term tactic have never yielded long term economic success. That is what Chavez have done. Am middle class American and I recognize that reality, along with every critically minded visitors to Venezuela...

Jon Lee Anderson: Hugo Chavez and the Expanding Slums of Venezuela : The New Yorker

After decades of neglect, poverty, corruption, and social upheaval, Caracas has deteriorated beyond all measure. It has one of the highest homicide rates in the world; last year, in a city of three million, an estimated thirty-six hundred people were murdered, or about one every two hours. The murder rate in Venezuela has tripled since Chávez took office. Caracas is a failed city,...

You cheer for Chavez not because you have any real understanding of what is going on the Americas but because you have this irrational need to poke US in the eye by way of Chavez. My G/F is half Chilean. She and her family from Santiago used to visit neighboring Latin American states on annual basis. The mess that is Venezuela since Chavez took power and attempted to impose his socialist politics and policies are well known in Latin America and they noticed the decline from year to year.

Brazil's Luiz Lula also took some tactics from the socialist handbook, but unlike Chavez, Lula was smart enough to recognize those tactics have limits and Lula employed technicians in economics and management to shepherd Brazil to the prominence that Brazil is today, instead of continuing to blame US for every ills. Gaining support through being a 'sugar daddy' is no way to manage a country, but then again, Chavez was never interested in management but in being a modern day pseudo-monarch.

The poor will cry for Chavez, but they will cry even harder when the less charismatic and more incompetent Nicolas Maduro run Venezuela even deeper into economic quicksand. But of course, you would be relatively safe wherever you are to continue to cheer for the declining Venezuela.

 

[kawaraj]

He certainly was vitriolic against the West, particularly the US, and if that is your measure of a great leader, then he was certainly a 'great leader', just like Kim Jong Il was a 'great leader'.

But if the measure of a leader is the wealth and prosperity of their country, then Chavez has failed miserably.

If the measure of a leader is a real independent judiciary and relatively safe streets then Chavez has failed miserably.


If the measure of a leader is to be free of foreign influence, then Chavez has failed miserably. Chavez certainly rid his country of much US and European influence, only to bend over for the Russians, Chinese, Iranians, and Cubans. The man didn't make Venezuela independent, he only switched his masters. Of course you wouldn't care, to a person like you, anything that is against the west and the US must be to the good.

People in Venezuela are certainly more equal, equal in poverty. Everyone has a more equal share of the pie, (except for those in power, who of course have a more 'equal' share than the others) but the pie isn't any bigger, and it tastes like crap.

Thanks for the lengthy response and I agree it's of relevance for an argument.

Yet you failed in erecting your reasoning in assumptions, all assumptions with little foundation.

No one can make sure the country of Venezuela can be better off without this beloved leader, if this country is under the exploitation of dual discharge of domestic and western giant oil firms.

No one can garantee an independent of judiciary even in mature nation like the US where frequent aggression of judiciary and due process happens each day, pirating people's free life, threating wall steet protests by the name of patriast act ect.

Chaves was not bending to Russion, China, Cuba and Iran, who are his allies against an overwhelming world rogue on his nation's doorway.

He certainly was vitriolic against the West, particularly the US, and if that is your measure of a great leader, then he was certainly a 'great leader', just like Kim Jong Il was a 'great leader'.

But if the measure of a leader is the wealth and prosperity of their country, then Chavez has failed miserably.

If the measure of a leader is a real independent judiciary and relatively safe streets then Chavez has failed miserably.


If the measure of a leader is to be free of foreign influence, then Chavez has failed miserably. Chavez certainly rid his country of much US and European influence, only to bend over for the Russians, Chinese, Iranians, and Cubans. The man didn't make Venezuela independent, he only switched his masters. Of course you wouldn't care, to a person like you, anything that is against the west and the US must be to the good.

People in Venezuela are certainly more equal, equal in poverty. Everyone has a more equal share of the pie, (except for those in power, who of course have a more 'equal' share than the others) but the pie isn't any bigger, and it tastes like crap.

Thanks for the lengthy response and I agree it's of relevance for an argument.

Yet you failed in erecting your reasoning in assumptions, all assumptions with little foundation.

No one can make sure the country of Venezuela can be better off without this beloved leader, if this country is under the exploitation of dual discharge of domestic and western giant oil firms.

No one can garantee an independent of judiciary even in mature nation like the US where frequent aggression of judiciary and due process happens each day, pirating people's free life, threating wall steet protests by the name of patriast act ect.

Chaves was not bending to Russion, China, Cuba and Iran, who are his allies against an overwhelming world rogue on his nation's doorway.