MastanKhan
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Jun 12, 2018#101
" The last major naval conflict (I don't mean Iran-Iraq, Iraq-USA) took place between Argentina and the UK. The most potent weapon, by far, was combat aircraft with AShM. There is an entire navy lying underwater in the Falklands thanks to the Exosets. Finally the UK had to beg the French to give them the codes to the French missiles, whereby they were able to negate them. Its quite surprising that PN would not learn the lesson from that conflict"
Youngman,
The more I dug into that old thread---more gems I discovered---.
Jun 12, 2018#103
" See---the examples are right in front of our faces---but for a different generation---. We read what happened and heard it on the news and we also tried to find out more about it---.
Younger people think that as they have not read about it---it does not exist---.
They simply do not have the intellect to learn and ask " how did it happen ".
The Exocet that almost sunk the british naval ship also had come on the wings of an aircraft flying low---as did the iraqi mirage that took out the american ship---.
With these modern Long Range supersonic AShM's---the naval vessels have their work cut out for them---".
Hi,
By the way---JH7A's used ones are up for sale as posted by @Khafee---. Pakistan can get them for pennies on the dollar---or maybe even free---but just for the cost f upgrades---
Hi,
The japanese want an fighter / strike aircraft---but they reject the best of the best for tis size---the F16---.
The japanese knew that to fight its arch enemy---it would have to do a battle over the ocean against the enemy navy---for that it would need heavy potent AShM of the weight range of 1000-KG---and the aircraft carrying that missile would have to carry a minimum / maximum of 2 missiles per aircraft---and not one AShM per aircraft---thus came the design for the F2---.
The japanese knew---that with the coming counter measures---it would be very difficult for AShM missiles to get thru the gauntlet---and if one went thru then it would need to be of a certain minimum weight class---that once it hit a ship---it seriously disabled it if not sunk it---.
Why would the japanese think that way 3 1/2 decades ago---who were technologically more advanced than pakistan---?
" The last major naval conflict (I don't mean Iran-Iraq, Iraq-USA) took place between Argentina and the UK. The most potent weapon, by far, was combat aircraft with AShM. There is an entire navy lying underwater in the Falklands thanks to the Exosets. Finally the UK had to beg the French to give them the codes to the French missiles, whereby they were able to negate them. Its quite surprising that PN would not learn the lesson from that conflict"
Youngman,
The more I dug into that old thread---more gems I discovered---.
Jun 12, 2018#103
" See---the examples are right in front of our faces---but for a different generation---. We read what happened and heard it on the news and we also tried to find out more about it---.
Younger people think that as they have not read about it---it does not exist---.
They simply do not have the intellect to learn and ask " how did it happen ".
The Exocet that almost sunk the british naval ship also had come on the wings of an aircraft flying low---as did the iraqi mirage that took out the american ship---.
With these modern Long Range supersonic AShM's---the naval vessels have their work cut out for them---".
Hi,
By the way---JH7A's used ones are up for sale as posted by @Khafee---. Pakistan can get them for pennies on the dollar---or maybe even free---but just for the cost f upgrades---
Hi,
The japanese want an fighter / strike aircraft---but they reject the best of the best for tis size---the F16---.
The japanese knew that to fight its arch enemy---it would have to do a battle over the ocean against the enemy navy---for that it would need heavy potent AShM of the weight range of 1000-KG---and the aircraft carrying that missile would have to carry a minimum / maximum of 2 missiles per aircraft---and not one AShM per aircraft---thus came the design for the F2---.
The japanese knew---that with the coming counter measures---it would be very difficult for AShM missiles to get thru the gauntlet---and if one went thru then it would need to be of a certain minimum weight class---that once it hit a ship---it seriously disabled it if not sunk it---.
Why would the japanese think that way 3 1/2 decades ago---who were technologically more advanced than pakistan---?