US : Whose Friend and whose Enemy ?

[Chanakyaa]

My Dear Forum members,

Its Quite fortunate IMO that the new Obama administration has really projected a real potential to change the Global Policies .
South Asia is Not really Optimistic about the New President ( atleast NOW ) but more importantly for the first time it seems that the Pakistan in an open manner has decided to stand and face Uncle Sam.

the problem with US is that they try to behave lik masters. wheneva we cooperate with them we tend to loose more and gain less. however US keeps on tellin us wat we gained from it and expects us to be thankful. if US is to have gud relations with us then they should also treat us lik friends. if they change their attitude then i am sure we will cooperate with them willingly which will result into far better outcomes. in last 60 yrs the worst thing which has happened to pakistan is US friendship.
also they need to understand that muslims cant have gud feeling for them untill they stop invading muslim countries. how are we gonna forget wat they did to iraq and wat they are doin in afghanistan. also their support for israel when it comes to killing of civilians in palestine.
with all these conditions i dont think if muslims will ever start liking them.

India , before 2000 never took US as a friend , even Now Post Nuclear Deal Scenario is such that India has to think twice over its relations with US. Though the Indo Us times are at their best but still we have along way to go.

Pakistan on the other hand had been a partner with US , though after the Deadly war on terror , The Common man of PAK never thinks of US as a friend as evident from the Quote above and its natural and Right .


#1. I want to ask you all , to think and answer , that is Really US a friend of any one in the world apart from Israel ( Even UK was denied the source code of F-35 initially, can u believe it ? ) ?

#2. India had a NAM policy and it never Openly took Russian side until US cam in open support of pakistan in 70s. They delivered Them F16s and started an Arms race that will perhaps never end.

Dont you think that US deliberately brought their Cold War to ( pro USSR ) india - and Pakistan by suppy or Arms, Just like it un necessarily intervened between matters in Afnanistan and Iraq ?

#3. I personally believe that Irrespective of what relations India has with US , if US would have not continued their "World Leader" belief their meaning less War on Terror, The World would have been a 90% more Peaceful Place.

What do u think. US is really Whose Friend and whose Enemy ?

 

[Chanakyaa]

With Complete Positive Intentions.. I also want to share this song from an Indian Movie..
Perhaps Leaders of Both nations Must Listen This every day !

Sannate ki gehri chhanv
Khaamoshi se jalte gaanv
Ye nadiyon par toote huey pul
Dharti ghaayal aur vyaakul
Ye khet gamon se jhulse huey
Ye khaali raste sehme huey
Ye maatam karta saara samaa
Ye jalte ghar ye kaala dhuaan
Ye jalte ghar ye kaala dhuaan
Hoho..

Hmmm..
Mere dushman mere bhai mere humsaaye
Mere dushman mere bhai mere humsaaye
Mujhse tujhse hum donon se ye jalte ghar kuchh kehte hain
Barbaadi ke saari manzar kuchh kehte hain
Hay..
Mere dushman mere bhai mere humsaaye
Hoho...

Hmmm..
Baarood se bojhal saari fiza
Hai maut ki dhoop hai laati hava
Zakhmon pe hai chhaayi laachaari
Dariyon mein hai khilti beemaari
Ye marte bachche haathon mein
Ye maaon ka rone raaton mein
Murda basti murda hai nagar
Chehre patthar hain dil patthar
Chehre patthar hain dil patthar
Hoho..

Hmm..
Mere dushman mere bhai mere humsaaye
Mere dushman mere bhai mere humsaaye
Mujhse tujhse hum donon sun ye patthar ghar kuchh kehte hain
Barbaadi ke saari manzar kuchh kehte hain
Hay..
Mere dushman mere bhai mere humsaaye
Hoho...

Hmmm..
Mere dushman mere bhai mere humsaaye
Chehron ke dilon ke ye patthar ye jalte ghar
Barbaadi ke saare manzar sab mere nagar sab tere nagar
Ye kehte hain
Is sarhad par pulkaarega kab tak nafrat ka ye ajgar
Kab tak nafrat ka ye ajagr
Is sarhad par pulkaarega kab tak nafrat ka ye ajgar
Hum apne apne kheton mein gehoon ki jagah chaawal ki jagah
Ye bandookein kyon bote hain
Jab donon hi ki galiyon mein kuchh bhookke bachche rote hain
Kuchhbhookhe bachche rote hain
Aa khaayein kasam
Ab jung nahin hone paaye
Aa khaayein kasam
Ab jung nahin hone paaye
Aur us din ka rasta dekhein
Jab khil uththay tera bhi chaman
Jab khil uththay mera bhi chaman
Tera bhi watan mera bhi watan
Mera bhi watan tera bhi watan
Tera bhi watan mere bhi watan

Hoho..
Mere dost mere bhai mere humsaaye
Mere dost mere bhai mere humsaaye
Hoho..
Hmmm..
Aaa...

 

[zhero]

#1. I want to ask you all , to think and answer , that is Really US a friend of any one in the world apart from Israel ( Even UK was denied the source code of F-35 initially, can u believe it ? ) ?

- "Nations have no permanent friends and no permanent enemies. Only permanent interests."

This seems to be true for any nation.

("..source code of F-35.."?? - I hope it wasn't running windows XP !!)


#2. India had a NAM policy and it never Openly took Russian side until US cam in open support of pakistan in 70s. They delivered Them F16s and started an Arms race that will perhaps never end.

NAM policy my arse...I don't see you complaining about the US providing arms and supplies to India during the 1962 India-China war....the Indians even requested US air force to fight the Chinese....

Also, if India and Pakistan are 'stupid' enough to get into an arms race (instead of spending scarce money on development), then how is that a U.S problem? You think that USSR, China, UK, France would not have sold arms to India/Pak?


Dont you think that US deliberately brought their Cold War to ( pro USSR ) india - and Pakistan by suppy or Arms

- India vs Pak is (and was) more about their own perceived security (or insecurity) than the cold war. South Asia wasn't really a cold war battleground.


Just like it un necessarily intervened between matters in Afnanistan and Iraq ?

- Afghanistan, I think the US was justified. Iraq, probably not.


#3. I personally believe that Irrespective of what relations India has with US , if US would have not continued their "World Leader" belief their meaning less War on Terror, The World would have been a 90% more Peaceful Place.

- I don't see what Indo-US relations have to do with WoT. The US had to take down al-qaeda (after sept. 11), and the Taliban sealed their own fate (it seems) by not handing over OBL....

 

[metalfalcon]

India had a NAM policy and it never Openly took Russian side until US cam in open support of pakistan in 70s. They delivered Them F16s and started an Arms race that will perhaps never end.

Hey dude, NAM was just nothing everybody knows how close India was with USSR and don't forget how USA supported you guyz in 1962 during the war with China.

You go and buy Billions of dollars worth of weapons from USA and if we bought just F-16s from USA that's a Pain in ..... for India still today. C mon man grow up.

India needs to get rid of this BAD habit that whenever any country is giving weapons to Pakistan India is annoyed with her and tries her level best to cancel the deal, on the other Hand India is the top most Military Hardware buyer of west in the Sub-continent.

USA treats her friends like tissue Papers, when you are done with them just throw them.

American Interests decides her friends, they are not Loyal as Russia is Loyal to India or China is loyal to Pakistan.