US wants regional players to take ownership

[ManuZ]

They were trained in Indian consulates. We know who the real enemy is. Do what you will. say what you will we will hold you back in the race with China. You can not win in our neighbourhood
Listen this thread is about India becoming a proxy for white man. Lets discuss that.

Dewd U should stop watching Zaid Hamids videos..

 

[sachin@india]

You do not speak for India, you are just a jingoistic little troll.

Back to topic America wants to us India as cannon fodder for their interests in Pakistan

now don't do personal attacks....

India will do whatever in her own interest..period

 

[ManuZ]

You do not speak for India, you are just a jingoistic little troll.

Back to topic America wants to us India as cannon fodder for their interests in Pakistan

Look who is calling whom a troll...

 

[hawx]

They were trained in Indian consulates. We know who the real enemy is. Do what you will. say what you will we will hold you back in the race with China. You can not win in our neighbourhood
Listen this thread is about India becoming a proxy for white man. Lets discuss that.

The only country leaving behind is paradise of south asia aka asian tiger aka pakistan,you will hold us back ??????we are on right track we may be 10 years behind china but who cares,we will achieve our objectives things are improving day by day unlike some other countries.

 

[lem34]

The only country leaving behind is paradise of south asia aka asian tiger aka pakistan,you will hold us back ??????we are on right track we may be 10 years behind china but who cares,we will achieve our objectives things are improving day by day unlike some other countries.

What you talking about 10 years behind China. That is a preposterous assertion. Constantly repeating a lie does not make it true. Your timid govt is looking to the white man to protect you from China etc. The west just want to use India as cannon fodder. Wake up mate.

 

[sachin@india]

What you talking about 10 years behind China. That is a preposterous assertion. Constantly repeating a lie does not make it true. Your timid govt is looking to the white man to protect you from China etc. The west just want to use India as cannon fodder. Wake up mate.

actually white men have used pakistan as cannon fodder...go and see yourself in waziristan and NWFP

 

[Dalit]

They have used Pakistan as cannon fodder. Though, India is now heading in the very same direction. An alliance with the Americans means no free lunch. I think you're smart enough to read in between the lines. Let's not fool ourselves.

 

[OrionHunter]

The yanks should leave AF to Pakistan, china and Iran to solve. These 3 countries know more about Afghans than the ignorant and arrogant yanks will ever have.

That's what may not happen at all! There's too much at stake in Afghanistan for countries like Iran, Pakistan, China, CIS Republics, Saudi Arabia, U.S., Russia, India, the so called Northern Alliance (Anti Taliban) and local warlords. A veritable cauldron of conflicting interests!

I feel the situation is going to get a lot worse after the ISAF departs, what with this lame duck government in Afghanistan at the helm. Even if the Quetta Shaura is handed over the reins of governance in Afghanistan (together with other Taliban factions wanting a piece of the cake), it will most likely lead to civil war and utter chaos! And needless to say, karzai will flee to the US of A along with his corrupt cronies.

I ain't a crystal-ball gazer, but this is what the scenario would most likely be. And that so called Indo-Afghan security pact that Karzai signed would not be worth the paper it's written on!

 

[Sinnerman108]

That's what may not happen at all! There's too much at stake in Afghanistan for countries like Iran, Pakistan, China, CIS Republics, U.S., Russia, India, the so called Northern Alliance (Anti Taliban) and local warlords. A veritable cauldron of conflicting interests!

I feel the situation is going to get a lot worse after the ISAF departs, what with this lame duck government in Afghanistan at the helm. Even if the Quetta Shaura is handed over the reins of governance in Afghanistan (together with other Taliban factions wanting a piece of the cake), it will most likely lead to civil war and utter chaos! And needless to say, karzai will flee to the US of A along with his corrupt cronies.

I ain't a crystal-ball gazer, but this is what the scenario would most likely be.

WRONG !
did it happen the last time ?
The time of Taliban was the most peaceful afghans have seen.
More than a decade later, billions of dollars and all NATO could not beat that.

 

[manofwar]

Actually in 1997, during the reign of Taliban afghanistan had the highest child,infant and maternal mortality rates in Asia.An estimated 10 million landmines covered it's terrain. The human rights of the females and the minorities like the buddhists were freely violated(ancient statues of buddha were destroyed).You call this peace?

 

[lem34]

actually white men have used pakistan as cannon fodder...go and see yourself in waziristan and NWFP

Corrupt Pakistani leaders not the Pakistani people

They have used Pakistan as cannon fodder. Though, India is now heading in the very same direction. An alliance with the Americans means no free lunch. I think you're smart enough to read in between the lines. Let's not fool ourselves.

Give it a rest polls have shown that Pakistanis dislike America and its policies. You can not blame all Pakistanis for the corrupt leaders. In your case Indians like you actually want American interference in our neighbourhood

That's what may not happen at all! There's too much at stake in Afghanistan for countries like Iran, Pakistan, China, CIS Republics, U.S., Russia, India, the so called Northern Alliance (Anti Taliban) and local warlords. A veritable cauldron of conflicting interests!

I feel the situation is going to get a lot worse after the ISAF departs, what with this lame duck government in Afghanistan at the helm. Even if the Quetta Shaura is handed over the reins of governance in Afghanistan (together with other Taliban factions wanting a piece of the cake), it will most likely lead to civil war and utter chaos! And needless to say, karzai will flee to the US of A along with his corrupt cronies.

I ain't a crystal-ball gazer, but this is what the scenario would most likely be.

Orion mate you speak a lot of sense are you really an Indian lol

 

[Harry Potter]

Even Taliban doesn't dare to underestimate India:

Taliban say they can 'reconcile' with India
PTI Mar 26, 2010, 06.09pm IST

NEW DELHI: Claiming that they were not in "direct conflict" with India, Taliban have said there was a possibility of reconciliation even as they justified the February 26 Kabul attack on Indians as a "legitimate" action.

In a self-contradicting interview, Taliban spokesman Zabihullah Mujahid claimed his organisation did not want India out of Afghanistan but attacked the country for supporting the Hamid Karzai government and western forces.

"If the Taliban return to power, we would like to maintain normal relations with countries including India. It's possible for the Taliban and India to reconcile with each other," Mujahid told a news magazine.

He said "India's role is different from those countries that sent troops to occupy Afghanistan."

At the same time, he added that, "India isn't neutral in the Afghan conflict as it is supporting the military presence of US-led coalition forces in Afghanistan and working for the strengthening of the Hamid Karzai government."

Also, he said, "India has never condemned the civilian casualties caused by the occupying forces", a reference to US-led troops in Afghanistan.

Asked about the February 26 attack in which Indians, housed in two hotels in Kabul, were targeted, the spokesman said Taliban were responsible for it.

He said it was carried out by "Taliban fighters after we got intelligence information that RAW agents were holding a meeting there."

The February 26 attack targeted Indians engaged in developmental projects like medical and education programmes, killing seven of them.

Claiming that India was supporting the Afghan government and the western forces, Mujahid said the country is, "therefore, a legitimate target for us."

Asked if Taliban wanted India out of Afghanistan, he said, We are not saying that India should be out of Afghanistan. Nor can India be completely expelled from Afghanistan.""

The Taliban spokesman noted that India and Afghanistan have had historic ties and said "The Taliban aren't in any direct conflict with India. India troops aren't part of NATO forces, they haven't occupied Afghanistan."

He claimed that Taliban"favour neither India not Pakistan" but hastened to add that they cannot "ignore Pakistan as it is a neighbouring Islamic country" and was on good terms with them when they were in power.

"India, on the other hand, backed anti-Taliban forces of the Northern Alliance (NA) and refused to do business with our government... Our complaint is India backed the NA (Northern Alliance), and is now supporting the Karzai government," Mujahid said.
He was also critical when asked about Indian projects and whether those were beneficial for Afghan people.

Claiming that India was doing all this to promote its interest in Afghanistan, he said, "If India were so fond of the Afghan people, why did it not undertake development projects under Taliban rule?"

 

[lem34]

Even Taliban doesn't dare to underestimate India:

No everyone trembles when they hear India's name. Example everyone so scared of flying coffin air force

 

[manofwar]

^^^no need to troll mate. You can put your point without being rude...

 

[lem34]

^^^no need to troll mate. You can put your point without being rude...

Sorry that you think that is trolling. I think a number of Indians those that have a deluded version of Indians position on the world stage is trolling. West and India are trying to make India a proxy in a neighbourhood that just does not agree or want this. for example http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-affairs/164677-sri-lanka-irrelevance-india-geneva.html