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US, Taliban talks reach turning point

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WASHINGTON: After 10 months of secret dialogue with Afghanistan's Taliban insurgents, senior US officials said the talks have reached a critical juncture and they will soon know whether a breakthrough is possible, leading to peace talks whose ultimate goal is to end the Afghan war.

As part of the accelerating, high-stakes diplomacy, the United States is considering the transfer of an unspecified number of Taliban prisoners from the Guantanamo Bay military prison into Afghan government custody.

It has asked representatives of the Taliban to match that confidence-building measure with some of their own. Those could include a denunciation of international terrorism and a public willingness to enter formal political talks with the government headed by Afghan President Hamid Karzai.

The officials acknowledged that the Afghanistan diplomacy, which has reached a delicate stage in recent weeks, remains a long shot. Among the complications: U.S. troops are drawing down and will be mostly gone by the end of 2014, potentially reducing the incentive for the Taliban to negotiate.

Still, the senior officials, all of whom insisted on anonymity to share new details of the mostly secret effort, suggested it has been a much larger piece of President Barack Obama's Afghanistan policy than is publicly known.

U.S. officials have held about half a dozen meetings with their insurgent contacts, mostly in Germany and Doha with representatives of Mullah Omar, leader of the Taliban's Quetta Shura, the officials said.

The stakes in the diplomatic effort could not be higher. Failure would likely condemn Afghanistan to continued conflict, perhaps even civil war, after NATO troops finish turning security over to Karzai's weak government by the end of 2014.

U.S. officials have met with Tayeb Agha, who was a secretary to Mullah Omar, and they have held one meeting arranged by Pakistan with Ibrahim Haqqani, a brother of the Haqqani network's founder. They have not shut the door to further meetings with the Haqqani group, which is blamed for a brazen attack this fall on the U.S. embassy in Kabul and which senior U.S. officials link closely to Pakistan's intelligence agency.

Success would mean a political end to the war and the possibility that parts of the Taliban - some hardliners seem likely to reject the talks - could be reconciled.

On Sunday, a senior member of Afghanistan's High Peace Council said the Taliban had indicated it was willing to open an office in an Islamic country.

But underscoring the fragile nature of the multi-sided diplomacy, Karzai on Wednesday announced he was recalling Afghanistan's ambassador to Qatar, after reports that nation was readying the opening of the Taliban office. Afghan officials complained they were left out of the loop.

U.S. officials say they have kept Karzai informed of the process and have met with him before and after each encounter, but they declined to confirm whether representatives of his government are present at those meetings.
US, Taliban talks reach turning point
 
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and if Pakistan Army talks to some of them; it is considered an act of Terrorist Support. :disagree:
Yes, unfortunately its true..
Have u listen 2 heena saying that army has got more influence on pakistan than the government, you can easily figure out from that news..
on topic,,
If the talks r getting successful then its good for US,afghanistan and taliban....
 
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We know who just got owned in Afghanistan. LOLzzzzzzz

BTW Taliban showed the how to Bring Powerful Elephants to its feet.

Now they are all over talking to Talibans coz now they feel the heat of being in Afghanistan.

As far as Paksitan is concern , i am very much confident that our leadership is playing all this sensibly .

So war is coming to an end its a good news.Lets see whats the outcome.
 
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Yes, unfortunately its true..
Have u listen 2 heena saying that army has got more influence on pakistan than the government, you can easily figure out from that news..
on topic,,
If the talks r getting successful then its good for US,afghanistan and taliban....

when US talk with terrorist these are in the support of peaceful Afghanistan and WTF is wid us when we do the same ,we consider as we are harboring terrorism, bloody bastards they are caring abt the country of some millions and destabilizing the country of 187 million people :angry:
 
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ISLAMABAD:
The twilight of the Tehreek-i-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) – an outlawed umbrella of militant groups – appears to have set in.
The group responsible for most violence in the country is in disarray with its ‘chain of command’ crumbling, funds dwindling and infighting intensifying, admit Taliban foot soldiers.
“It appears the TTP’s days are numbered … what was a well-coordinated militia just a year ago has fragmented now and dozens of splinters groups have emerged,” a disgruntled member of the network told The Express Tribune.
At least two associates of the group in South Waziristan, the strongest bastion of TTP where its chief Hakimullah Mehsud is hiding, also confirmed this.
They said Mehsud has further isolated himself due to threats to his life from the dreaded American drones and Pakistani spy agencies.
“He is virtually a lonely man running for his life … he is always on the move and doesn’t meet even his once most-trusted lieutenants,” said Muhammad, a nom de guerre because the militants seldom use their real names.
Muhammad, who lives in the North Waziristan tribal region, was in Islamabad for the treatment of some kidney ailment at a private clinic. Mehsud has stopped meeting members of his notorious network from Punjab, better known as Punjabi Taliban, suspecting that some of them might be spying on him for Pakistani agencies.
“This is one of the reasons for relative peace in the country … there is no coordination among various groups of the Taliban,” said an intelligence official. There has been a visible decline in the Taliban violence in the country over the past few months.
The TTP associates said that their group was crumbling due to differences on the question of pursuing peace talks with the government — an option Mehsud had rejected outright when he was first approached with the offer.
One the other hand, several key TTP leaders have responded positively to peace overtures from the Pakistani agencies. TTP’s deputy chief in South Waziristan Mufti Waliur Rehman and the group’s No 2, Maulvi Faqir Muhammad from Bajaur Agency, are reportedly in talks with the government, indirectly though. Officially, both the government and the TTP deny peace talks.
Muhammad claimed that several members of the TTP shura, or decision-making council, have also showed willingness for talks. He added that the shura, which once had around three dozen senior leaders, has now shrunk to less than 10.
“People are now deserting Mehsud and joining the group led by Waliur Rehman,” he said, adding that the latter’s group is becoming more powerful.
No more money
Apart from differences within, supply of foot soldiers to the TTP is also drying up fast, said Muhammad who himself has given up violence to start a small business in his village.
“They (foot soldiers) are deserting because it no longer earns them money,” said Raqeebullah Mehsud, a former TTP field commander.
Intelligence officials are claiming the credit for the TTP’s imminent collapse, saying it was their squeeze that had played a key role in blocking funds supply to the Taliban. But experts like Brigadier (Retd) Muhammad Saad believe that TTP’s inability to generate money might be the result of what has been happening behind closed doors in Afghanistan in the recent past.
“There have been reports that the Afghan Taliban are actively engaged in peace talks,” he added.
Saad said that the war in Afghanistan was the main source of funds for the TTP “but it may not be the case anymore”.
But Brigadier (Retd) Mehmood Shah, another security analyst based in Peshawar, said it won’t be fair to deny the Pakistani agencies credit for the isolation and subsequent rupture in the ranks of the TTP.
“Much of this happened due to their (Pakistani agencies) maneuvers,” he said.
Published in The Express Tribune, December 19th, 2011.
Correction: Due to an editing error, an earlier version of the story mentioned Baitullah Mehsud as the current TTP chief. The current chief is Hakimullah Mehsud.

Twilight of the Taliban: TTP buckles under internal fissures, external pressure – The Express Tribune
 
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Same old political mantra and drums that the Army generals on both sides are beating. Neither the PA has won nor the Americans military might. Both army's are tired and sick of fighting the militants at the cost of their economies.

Militant groups may have splintered further, but who says they have given up weapons? They are people who live by the sword and die by the sword.

these news articles are not based on factual premises but to form some political impressions for public consumption
 
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So US is going to turn around and offer ..... ap samjh tu ga'ay ho gay:smokin:
 
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Whatever Cooks! I am interested to know when would there be Taliban office in Washington after all its US engagement why open an office in Gulf-Qatar it should be in US first.
 
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Ok so what of the Pakistani Taliban ? the Afghani ones want the NATO-WEST to leave however the Pakistani one want to turn pakistan into a taliban state.
 
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Should Pakistan helicopter to attack US/NATO soldiers ?.......just like NATO helicopted killed 28 martyers.
 
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