US signs nuclear technology deal with Vietnam

[Fsjal]

This kind of artificial frog killed 1.2mil of premature in China every year. How hitech the Chinese have to create
Utmost dangerous weapon, agree ??

You made a point there.

 

[jhungary]

If ballistic missiles won't work, will cruise missiles do?

No, you are talking about low cloud cover, 200-1000 fts, flight envelope of cruise missile usually about 5000-10000 ft, AGL

1. artificial cloud, there'r aqueous vapor

2. artificial wind machine, indeed jet engines from retired J-6 fighters.
(2008 BeiJing government ever used hundreds of these machines to blow cloud away before opening ceremony of the Olympic Games)

Lol I think you fail to catch my point, if you want to make rain cloud in Beijing, you need to use your rocket, planes OVER Beijing. How are you going to creat rain cloud IN Vietnam FORM china is beyond me

 

[Viet]

Ninh Thuan Nuke power plant. The construction works shall begin in 20014. ( my company try to have some supervision services for the project. )

it is a Zero too much

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_energy_in_Vietnam

 

[EastSea]

self deleted.

 

[jhungary]

I think you don't have experiences about construction works of such projects. EVN is project owner, but PMU (project management Unit) it is directly responsible for management of construction works, installing M&I equipment's and making acceptance hereof, hand over project to operating management board when it completed, based on procedures what defined by related Law and regulations in Vietnam.

For example, earth work, concrete works or M&I works, step by step... which have to going over inspection procedures made by third party. It called as "Supervision consultant". Such consultant shall be independent from Design Consultant and Project owner (or PMU), to prevent any mishandling of contractors to the qualities of the project (mẹ hát, con khen hay).

In this project, supervision consultant can be Russia, Korea, Japan, France Company or others international company from developed countries following terms and conditions of Loan Agreement ( the choice should be following bidding process or direct nomination approval by Ministry of Plan and Investment - Government). Any case, the international Supervision Company should be use local consultant base on contract (should be engaged to provide personal staff only) to do some works on project site (earth works or concrete works etc), we have enough measurement instruments to do that.

I'm awaiting, hopefully no lose, bro.

@Viet said you have a typo on your post, you wrote 20014 instead of 2014, you put an extra zero

Unless what you really mean is the constructive will not start in about 18000 years....

 

[ViXuyen]

Question about this nuclear thing:

If I visit ground zero where the U.S tested its first nuke in New Mexico, can I get cancer?

 

[jhungary]

Question about this nuclear thing:

If I visit ground zero where the U.S tested its first nuke in New Mexico, can I get cancer?

You can get cancer, with or without visiting the blast sight.

You can get cancer by standing in front of television, and you can get cancer from smoking



By the way, that site should be off limit to civvies, you get some kind of clearance to visit the proving ground?

 

[Amolthebest]

Nuclear Vietnam. I am loving it.

 

[ViXuyen]

the State Department said the deal will not allow Vietnam to enrich or reprocess U.S.-origin nuclear materials

What if the materials are not of U.S-origin? Viet Nam has uranium deposits fyi

US, Vietnam sign nuclear trade agreement | Reuters

 

[jhungary]

What if the materials are not of U.S-origin? Viet Nam has uranium deposits fyi

US, Vietnam sign nuclear trade agreement | Reuters

It's never about the uranium itself, but the technology of enriching it. So we can see with US supply an already enriched uranium block or US will enrich the uranium Vietnam supply

will not allow Vietnam to enrich or REPROCESS U.S. origin nuclear materials

Indicated US will provide a finishing product

Technically, if Vietnam have enough money and knowledge, they can enrich or reprocess the US uranium into weapon grade. And you cannot put a naturally existed uranium into nuclear anything.. Out just won't work

 

[ViXuyen]

It's never about the uranium itself, but the technology of enriching it.

Correcto. If this deal does not invoive Viet Nam receiving enrichment technologies then I see absolutely ZERO point of Viet Nam doing business with the U.S. The protocol of Viet Nam's nuclear policy is self-sufficient in enrichment capabilities.

If Viet Nam receives the enrichment technologies then later enrich uranium that is not supplied by the U.S; then Viet Nam does not break the 123 agreement. If this deal does not involve any senstive technology transfers then I'm really puzzled on why two sides have spent a couple of years of negotiation considering Viet Nam can easily contract the Russian or Japanese to build the nuke plant on any time.

 

[EastSea]

it is a Zero too much

Nuclear energy in Vietnam - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

@Viet said you have a typo on your post, you wrote 20014 instead of 2014, you put an extra zero

Unless what you really mean is the constructive will not start in about 18000 years....

@Viet+ @jhungry: I'm sorry for my misunderstanding.

 

[yue10]

what a joke, how many girls did your Viets bribe the mayor of Fantasy Land with for him to allow your Viets to be resident there? let this be a warning to the world of the Viets evil and murderous mentality seek to destabilise the region with their sick thoughts, having said this many countries owe VN the blood debt

megatons to megawatt is finished this year, your murderous Viets can go beg the Russia master to gift you with the enriched uranium from their stockpiles

 

[jhungary]

Correcto. If this deal does not invoive Viet Nam receiving enrichment technologies then I see absolutely ZERO point of Viet Nam doing business with the U.S. The protocol of Viet Nam's nuclear policy is self-sufficient in enrichment capabilities.

If Viet Nam receives the enrichment technologies then later enrich uranium that is not supplied by the U.S; then Viet Nam does not break the 123 agreement. If this deal does not involve any senstive technology transfers then I'm really puzzled on why two sides have spent a couple of years of negotiation considering Viet Nam can easily contract the Russian or Japanese to build the nuke plant on any time.

I think you do not quite understand how enrichment work

The fact is even US did provide you a research reactor that capable to enrich LEU and man and know how to do it, you still may not figure out how to get from LEU to HEU

See Uranium Enrichment is a "SIMPLE" process that refine the U235 out of a molecule of U238
However, that require a complex process that was not simple at all

You can easily refine the concentration of 20% and make it LEU, but as the concentrate of U235 get higher, the Extraction is going to be harder, bear in mind you are refining the same "cake" of uranium and U235 is unstable

I cannot explain further to you as 1.) I cannot further dumb it down for you and 2.) the knowledge is sort of out of my scope, I know some because one of my best friend is a nuclear scientist, just leave it as this

You can build a PC does not give you the knowledge to build a supercomputer, most country do not want to sell nuclear technology simply because of the word "proliferation", cause giving you the start may left a bad name if you had the tech and mostly, money, to go all the way....

 

[ViXuyen]

I think you do not quite understand how enrichment work

The fact is even US did provide you a research reactor that capable to enrich LEU and man and know how to do it, you still may not figure out how to get from LEU to HEU

See Uranium Enrichment is a "SIMPLE" process that refine the U235 out of a molecule of U238
However, that require a complex process that was not simple at all

You can easily refine the concentration of 20% and make it LEU, but as the concentrate of U235 get higher, the Extraction is going to be harder, bear in mind you are refining the same "cake" of uranium and U235 is unstable

I cannot explain further to you as 1.) I cannot further dumb it down for you and 2.) the knowledge is sort of out of my scope, I know some because one of my best friend is a nuclear scientist, just leave it as this

You can build a PC does not give you the knowledge to build a supercomputer, most country do not want to sell nuclear technology simply because of the word "proliferation", cause giving you the start may left a bad name if you had the tech and mostly, money, to go all the way....

Like you said enrichment is a complex process and if Viet Nam does not get the tech transfer/knowhow of this process, then I see no point of Viet Nam doing business with the U.S in this matter.