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US scientists boycott Nasa conference over China ban

What a racist move by U.S officials. U.S is not a nation state of one ethnicity or one nationality. Everyone from all over the world migrated to the U.S have contributed to science, and society. To exclude one ethnicity from a NASA conference is incredibly racist. This opens the door to other discriminatory acts , what's next Muslims are not allowed to work in healthcare? Iranians can't be engineers? America is a multicultural society. this will not work, you will anger millions of people.

How is this racist move ?

Laws are already in the books where students from certain nations are now allowed to study subjects or courses defined sensitive by the Govt or maybe as part of export control act.
 
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Brainwashing, slavery, dependence, stealing, human rights violations are synonymous with Chinese in international media not with Indians.

that is why I say you incapable indians are brainwashed by chlorine, or may be sulphuric acid

which is the nation which has 6/10 of its people squandering in deplorable personal hygienes; millions of kids die of maltruition each year; the rape culture .. whereas which country that ranks highest among leading nations that publish and having academic papers quoted in the world, the second largest economy, the top exporters, much higher degree of literacy, much better health and longevity, much better in sports achievements and ranks first in academic tests if high schools kids, math olympiads and while China comes out to be the possible winner of Turkey's defensive missile, where is india? testing your kaveri engines?

You are correct, to be precise, Indians working at NASA is somewhere around 36%. No wonder NASA is the world's best space agency.
36% of scientists at NASA are Indians: Govt survey - Times Of India

you people have no shame

during my absence some of the knowlegeable members have given you the answer

East or west Indians are the best

in bragging\
in taking credits where you have minimal or no share ...
 
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that is why I say you incapable indians are brainwashed by chlorine, or may be sulphuric acid

which is the nation which has 6/10 of its people squandering in deplorable personal hygienes; millions of kids die of maltruition each year; the rape culture .. whereas which country that ranks highest among leading nations that publish and having academic papers quoted in the world, the second largest economy, the top exporters, much higher degree of literacy, much better health and longevity, much better in sports achievements and ranks first in academic tests if high schools kids, math olympiads and while China comes out to be the possible winner of Turkey's defensive missile, where is india? testing your kaveri engines?



you people have no shame

during my absence some of the knowlegeable members have given you the answer



in bragging\
in taking credits where you have minimal or no share ...

The only things I am seeing in your posts is chlorine, sulphuric acid, benzine, hydrochloric acid and sulphur, and then I see poverty, hygiene, India, school kids and rape.

Learn to write coherently. Using all your vocabulary you know in one paragraph doesn't make you come across as knowledgeable.
 
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Nasa facing backlash from US researchers due to rejection of Chinese nationals from conference


A law passed in March prohibits anyone from China from setting foot in a Nasa building. Photograph: Pablo Martinez Monsivais/AP


Nasa is facing an extraordinary backlash from US researchers after it emerged that the space agency has banned Chinese scientists, including those working at US institutions, from a conference on grounds of national security.

Nasa officials rejected applications from Chinese nationals who hoped to attend the meeting at the agency's Ames research centre in California next month citing a law, passed in March, which prohibits anyone from China setting foot in a Nasa building.

The law is part of a broad and aggressive move initiated by congressman Frank Wolf, chair of the House appropriations committee, which has jurisdiction over Nasa. It aims to restrict the foreign nationals' access to Nasa facilities, ostensibly to counter espionage.

But the ban has angered many US scientists who say Chinese students and researchers in their labs are being discriminated against. A growing number of US scientists have now decided to boycott the meeting in protest, with senior academics withdrawing individually, or pulling out their entire research groups.

The conference is being held for US and international teams who work on Nasa's Kepler space telescope programme, which has been searching the cosmos for signs of planets beyond our solar system. The meeting is the most important event in the academic calendar for scientists who specialise in the field.

Alan Boss, co-organiser of the Kepler conference, refused to discuss the issue, but said: "This is not science, it's politics unfortunately."

Geoff Marcy, an astronomy professor at the University of California, Berkeley, who has been tipped to win a Nobel prize for his pioneering work on exoplanets, or planets outside the solar system, called the ban "completely shameful and unethical".

In an email sent to the conference organisers, Marcy said: "In good conscience, I cannot attend a meeting that discriminates in this way. The meeting is about planets located trillions of miles away, with no national security implications," he wrote.

"It is completely unethical for the United States of America to exclude certain countries from pure science research," Marcy told the Guardian. "It's an ethical breach that is unacceptable. You have to draw the line."

Debra Fischer, professor of astronomy at Yale University, said she became aware of the ban only when a Chinese post-doctoral student in her lab, Ji Wang, was rejected from the conference. When Nasa confirmed that Ji was banned because of his nationality, Fischer decided to pull out of the meeting. She told her students: "I cannot say don't go, but I'm boycotting the meeting." Her team followed suit and has withdrawn from the meeting.

The law allows Nasa to apply for a waiver against the ban in special circumstances, but any appeal would have been rejected under a moratorium that has been introduced by the agency's administrator, Charles Bolden.

Chinese applicants were told they could not attend the conference in an email sent by Mark Messersmith, a Kepler project specialist at Nasa Ames. "Unfortunately … federal legislation passed last March forbids us from hosting any citizens of the People's Republic of China at a conference held at facilities of the National Aeronautics and Space Administration. Regarding those who are already working at other institutions in the US, due to security issues resulting from recent Congressional actions, they are under the same constraints," according to the email, seen by the Guardian.

The recent Congressional action refers to a broader law passed in July which prohibits Nasa funds from being used to participate or collaborate with China in any way. The law has raised fears among some Nasa-funded scientists that they will have to sever ties with their Chinese collaborators, and no longer take on Chinese students.

Marcy said the law would damage relationships built up between US and Chinese researchers that could be valuable lines of communication if conflicts arose between the two nations in the future.

Sir Martin Rees, Britain's astronomer royal, said he "fully supported" Marcy's position and called the ban "a deplorable 'own goal' by the US".

Chris Lintott, an astronomer at Oxford University, called for a total boycott of the conference until the situation had been resolved. "I'm shocked and upset by the way this policy has been applied. Science is supposed to be open to all and restricting those who can attend by nationality goes against years of practice, going right back to cold war conferences of Russian and western physicists," he said. "The Kepler team should move their conference somewhere else – and I hope everyone boycotts until they do."

US scientists boycott Nasa conference over China ban | Science | theguardian.com

You made my day, Marcy. Still plenty of good people out there. :rolleyes:
 
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Cold War is over, China's disregard for IP is the largest problem now.

Also, China is a natural competitor of the US so I'm not sure why all the cries of racism. I doubt that if China had the lead on us they would oh so happily invite us to all of their conferences.

when it comes to a conference like that operated by nasa it will be stupid for nasa for leaking any info of much confidentiality that warrants any ip protection

even in terms of any ip leakage, I dont think the ruskies nor any other countries will be kind to the usa.
 
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Next they will ban Chinese food in the USA because of national security :lol:

as a matter of fact, the US government also treats her own citizens as a threat to her national security and spies on every single us citizen.
 
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You might have US citizenship but you're not an American. You are a Vietnamese living in America, that's not a real American.

Top secret clearance? :lol: oh puhleeze, enough with these fantasy stories. Getting tired of these made up stories dude. Getting pretty tired of such nonsense.

buddy leave gambit alone he has gone mad already any more provocation he will need mental treatment
 
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buddy leave gambit alone he has gone mad already any more provocation he will need mental treatment
Actually, I was asked to leave you guys alone. This is a military oriented forum but not one of you ever served in the military. You guys talk smack about the J-20 this and the J-31 that, but the most any of you ever have anything to do with an airplane is getting on/off an airliner. As for warships, I doubt if any of you set foot on anything larger than a 'junk'. Guns? How in the world can you talk about guns when the most any of you have held is your own d1ck? :lol:
 
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