US Politics

[VCheng]

I agree, most economists see the economy slowing down drastically this year and most probably recession in mid-2020, but the point is, the government should not recklessly be contributing to it.

The government itself is not reckless; it is only the orangutan in the Oval Office.

 

[Nilgiri]

The government itself is not reckless; it is only the orangutan in the Oval Office.

Was there a simian before this orangutan or that one was ok?

 

[VCheng]

Was there a simian before this orangutan or that one was ok?

As I have said many times before, USA is what it is despite its Presidents, not because of them.

 

[RabzonKhan]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1086395559504764930

Meanwhile, Democrats are proposing over $ 1 billion to border security by adding additional infrastructure at port of entry, hiring more border security personnel, immigration judges, sensors and other technology, but no funds for the nasty boy’s wall.

The government itself is not reckless; it is only the orangutan in the Oval Office.

Be careful buddy, you know he doesn’t like to be called orangutan, you know the genius sued Bill Maher for calling him son of an orangutan, imagine that, who could have thought at that time (2013) that this idiot will become president of this great country, SAD.

 

[VCheng]

Be careful buddy, you know he doesn’t like to be called orangutan, you know the genius sued Bill Maher for calling him son of an orangutan, imagine that, who could have thought at that time (2013) that this idiot will become president of this great country, SAD.

As a fellow American, I have right to my opinion. Is calling him orange-u-tan more acceptable?

 

[RabzonKhan]

As a fellow American, I have right to my opinion. Is calling him orange-u-tan more acceptable?

You just saved yourself from a Yuge suit.

 

[VCheng]

You just saved yourself from a Yuge suit.

The primate cannot spell correctly anyway.

 

[RabzonKhan]

Live: Trump makes 'major announcement' on border and shutdown

Here is a second link if the first does not work.

 

[Nilgiri]

As I have said many times before, USA is what it is despite its Presidents, not because of them.

So who would you say was the last effective president that did net good in his tenure?

 

[VCheng]

So who would you say was the last effective president that did net good in his tenure?

It is not a matter of net good vs bad. US Presidents tend to be judged more by how the economy does under their watch more than anything else.

 

[RabzonKhan]

Kamala Harris announced that she is running for president in 2020. In a brief video posted on her Twitter account, she called her supporters to join with her to claim our future. “Justice. Decency. Equality. Freedom. Democracy. These aren’t just words. They are the values we as Americans cherish. And they are all on the line now.” She has an interesting background, her mother was from Tamil Nadu, India and her father from Jamaica.

She is the fourth woman to announce presidential bid, Democratic Sen. Elizabeth Warren, Sen. Kristen Gillibrand and Rep. Tulsi Gabbard are already in the race. Interesting times ahead.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1087327713277460481

 

[Nilgiri]

That incident you brought up regarding 1st amendment @Cookie Monster has much more behind it than the media initially projected/extrapolated, this is why I cannot trust it anymore (at least not in the short time frame before the context/facts is actually made available):

This is how its being walked back by the more international media (as bad as they covered it too):

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46943364

I don't really bother to check with US media anymore on it.....buzzfeed sticking to its guns after the mueller team fact checked them pretty badly is just the most recent thing in a long line of the attitude I was talking about with @Joe Shearer @VCheng @KAL-EL @Hamartia Antidote and others.

 

[VCheng]

That incident you brought up regarding 1st amendment @Cookie Monster has much more behind it than the media initially projected/extrapolated, this is why I cannot trust it anymore (at least not in the short time frame before the context/facts is actually made available):

This is how its being walked back by the more international media (as bad as they covered it too):

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46943364

I don't really bother to check with US media anymore on it.....buzzfeed sticking to its guns after the mueller team fact checked them pretty badly is just the most recent thing in a long line of the attitude I was talking about with @Joe Shearer @VCheng @KAL-EL @Hamartia Antidote and others.

US media is truly horrible these days, serving agendas rather than the truth, no matter which type or inclination.

 

[Nilgiri]

US media is truly horrible these days, serving agendas rather than the truth, no matter which type or inclination.

Tbh tho, I have never seen fox go after and destroy a persons life over such non-contextualised clips (the content of which even by itself warrants nothing given these were kinda douchey teenagers in the first place, which teens arent?). Whatever happened to lets actually check the larger context, and give it a 24 hour (at the very minimum) cool down period before we run something like this? Looks like they just want to lead, damage (a few wrong-political side ppl) and then say ooops muh bad..."Walk it back" a tiny bit after the damage is done. They still seem so oblivious to how much damage this does to them in the long term.

Rest of legacy media literally aired all the social media celeb voices that were calling for this and that action against the kid (and far far worse on their twitter accounts)....including a congressman saying he has a very punchable face....and of course walked it back as a "big joke that I didn't mean". What in the flying F is this.....and then they complain and wonder about how and why they got Trump?

Crowder (who I am glad is back) says it best ....this was a (one side initiated) war long before Trump got here (and gives good evidence on it), Trump is the result...not the symptom:

(you may not like some of the crass humour, but bear with it if you can for the larger message)

First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you. Then you win.

 

[RabzonKhan]

Looks like Trump has met his match.

Pelosi tells Trump: No State of the Union address in the House until government is opened

Felicia Sonmez, Seung Min Kim 3 hrs ago

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) will not allow President Trump to deliver the State of the Union in the House chamber next week, writing to him on Wednesday afternoon that he can give the annual speech at the Capitol once the government shutdown is over.

Pelosi said when she extended Trump the invitation earlier this month on Jan. 3, “there was no thought that the government would still be shut down.” The partial shutdown, triggered by a partisan standoff over Trump’s demand for a border wall, is now on its 33rd day.

“I am writing to inform you that the House of Representatives will not consider a concurrent resolution authorizing the President’s State of the Union address in the House Chamber until government has opened,” Pelosi wrote to Trump. “Again, I look forward to welcoming you to the House on a mutually agreeable date for this address when government has been opened.”

Pelosi’s letter came just a few hours after Trump had informed her that he planned to show up at the Capitol on Jan. 29 to deliver his annual speech to Congress. The sparring between the two leaders reflects the growing acrimony as the partial federal government is now the longest in history, with 800,000 federal workers forced to go without pay and states scrambling to mitigate the impact on the poorest Americans.

The House and Senate must pass a concurrent resolution for a joint session of Congress to hear the president.

Asked about Pelosi’s letter at a White House event Wednesday afternoon, Trump responded, “I’m not surprised.” Read more

Tbh tho, I have never seen fox go after and destroy a persons life over such non-contextualised clips (the content of which even by itself warrants nothing given these were kinda douchey teenagers in the first place, which teens arent?). Whatever happened to lets actually check the larger context, and give it a 24 hour (at the very minimum) cool down period before we run something like this? Looks like they just want to lead, damage (a few wrong-political side ppl) and then say ooops muh bad..."Walk it back" a tiny bit after the damage is done. They still seem so oblivious to how much damage this does to them in the long term.

Rest of legacy media literally aired all the social media celeb voices that were calling for this and that action against the kid (and far far worse on their twitter accounts)....including a congressman saying he has a very punchable face....and of course walked it back as a "big joke that I didn't mean". What in the flying F is this.....and then they complain and wonder about how and why they got Trump?

Crowder (who I am glad is back) says it best ....this was a (one side initiated) war long before Trump got here (and gives good evidence on it), Trump is the result...not the symptom:

(you may not like some of the crass humour, but bear with it if you can for the larger message)

First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you. Then you win.

It was not only the liberals, but some on the right also jump to wrong conclusion after watching that misleading clip.

I found CNN’s coverage was quite balance, not only did they publish Nick Sandmann’s statement, but they also got Twitter account @2020fight suspended, the person who instigated the uproar against Nick Sandmann.


How the video confrontation between Catholic students and a Native American elder blew up
By Paul P. Murphy and Gianluca Mezzofiore, CNN
Updated 12:53 AM ET, Wed January 23, 2019

(CNN)The discussion over what happened between competing groups of people on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial on Friday doesn't appear to be going away anytime soon.

It all started that evening when someone posted an Instagram video of a tense encounter between a Native American elder and a group of Catholic high school students from Kentucky.
Twenty-four hours later, the video was everywhere: trending on social networks, splashed across news sites and airing on TV.
How did it spread so fast? Here's a closer look.

What happened that day at the Lincoln Memorial

After participating in the March for Life rally on Capitol Hill, a group of students from Covington Catholic High School in northern Kentucky were wrapping up their day in Washington with a sightseeing visit to the Lincoln Memorial. At the same time, a small group of Native Americans were holding an Indigenous People's March on the memorial's steps.

Kaya Taitano posts the original video
Taitano had attended the Indigenous People's March and shot video of the encounter, which appeared to show the students, some wearing Make America Great Again caps, mocking Omaha tribe elder Nathan Phillips. She uploaded the video to Instagram on Friday at 7:33 p.m. She also posted a longer version to her YouTube account.
The Instagram video drew more than 179,000 views.
A Twitter user amplifies the encounter, adding commentary

Almost four hours later, at 11:13 p.m. Friday, the Twitter account @2020fight reposted Taitano's video.
"This MAGA loser gleefully bothering a Native American protestor at the Indigenous People's March," read the tweet accompanying the video.

The internet outrage machine snapped into action and the video quickly gained traction. Social media influencers, celebs and some journalists retweeted it.
Before the account was taken down by Twitter, @2020fight's version of the video was viewed more than 2.5 million times and retweeted more than 14,400 times, according to a cached version of the tweet seen by CNN Business.

Social media accounts repost it over and over
Like all videos that go viral, Taitano's original clip was downloaded and reposted by other people and accounts, over and over and over again — often without her permission or knowledge.
Her original YouTube video now has more than 4.5 million views. But some reposts of her videos, with their added assumptions and commentaries, have even more.
A number of people and organizations, including the Roman Catholic Diocese of Covington, Kentucky, quickly condemned the students seen in the video.

News organizations learn there's more to the story

Another video shows members of the Hebrew Israelites agitating others in the crowd.
When legitimate news outlets attempt to investigate videos like this, it can be difficult to wade through hundreds — sometimes thousands — of reposts to find the original post.

CNN tracked down Taitano, who said the incident started when a shouting match erupted between the students and four African-American men who were preaching about the Bible nearby.
Newly discovered video, which came to light after CNN published its first story on the incident, showed the group of black men, who identify themselves as members of the Hebrew Israelites, shouting slurs at the Native Americans and the Catholic students.

Nick Sandmann: "I would caution everyone passing judgment based on a few seconds of video. ..."

At 7:10 p.m. on Sunday, CNN obtained a statement from Nick Sandmann, the Covington student seen confronting Phillips, the Native American elder. He denied allegations he was mocking Phillips and said he was trying to defuse a tense situation.
"I was not intentionally making faces at the protester," Sandmann said in his three-page statement. "I did smile at one point because I wanted him to know that I was not going to become angry, intimidated or be provoked into a larger confrontation."

The @2020fight Twitter account is suspended

The account claimed to belong to a California schoolteacher. But CNN Business found that its profile photo was not of a schoolteacher but of a blogger based in Brazil.
Twitter suspended the @2020fight account Monday evening after CNN revealed that information to the company.
It's unclear who ran the @2020fight account. Twitter is investigating.

But the tweeter was able to sway the opinions of many people with just one tweet.
It's the latest example of social media's glaring problem: snap judgments, without full context, spread by people who themselves could be trying to deceive or sway opinions.
CNN's David Williams contributed to this report. Source