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[Solomon2]

CNN just breaking news that Michael Flynn has been officially charges by Robert Mueller for making false statements and lying to the FBI about the meeting with the Russians.

It's a very "small-potatoes" issue and involves little if any jail time: link.

It's been clear to me for quite some time - since Flynn wrote about Turkey relations the week after the election without making it clear that he was compensated by the Turkish gov't for it - that Flynn has some sort of problem when it comes to disclosure. It might be a personality quirk or failing memory but no one has yet found it points to some sort of conspiracy - which is surely what the special prosecutor has been digging for.

 

[RabzonKhan]

It's a very "small-potatoes" issue and involves little if any jail time: link.

It's been clear to me for quite some time - since Flynn wrote about Turkey relations the week after the election without making it clear that he was compensated by the Turkish gov't for it - that Flynn has some sort of problem when it comes to disclosure. It might be a personality quirk or failing memory but no one has yet found it points to some sort of conspiracy - which is surely what the special prosecutor has been digging for.

You can try as hard as you want, but this isn’t “a very small potatoes issue”. The point is, if he cooperates with Mueller’s investigation, most probably there will be little jail time, but otherwise he can end up in jail for five years, and you think five years is “little” time for US General, really?

The fact is we don’t know for certain what kind of corporation Flynn is providing to Mueller, but judging from the documents that were submitted in the court it is quite clear that Flynn’s plea is just the beginning and that there is more to come.

According to the Washington Post, Flynn’s court documents suggest that Flynn acted with the knowledge and advice of senior Trump transition officials, which quite frankly exposes Trump and his supporter’s narrative that Flynn acted alone. Most probably that senior official is Trump’s son-in-law Jared Kushner.

 

[Gomig-21]

It's a very "small-potatoes" issue and involves little if any jail time: link.

It's been clear to me for quite some time - since Flynn wrote about Turkey relations the week after the election without making it clear that he was compensated by the Turkish gov't for it - that Flynn has some sort of problem when it comes to disclosure. It might be a personality quirk or failing memory but no one has yet found it points to some sort of conspiracy - which is surely what the special prosecutor has been digging for.

I think it will be very difficult to convince a grand jury, or even a Mueller-led investigation team that a US lieutenant army general who was also appointed to one of the highest governmental position as the director of the Defense Intelligence Agency of the United States and then a National Security Adviser to the current administration has some sort of "forgetful" problem when it comes to disclosing specific information that is essential to determine whether someone can be appointed to an important position in the White House that requires the highest form of security clearance. I think it's very hard for anyone to believe that. That forgetfulness reeks of selective amnesia.

Also, the fact that he took the guilty plea on a charge like lying to the FBI suggests that his lawyers advised him that the chances of beating that charge are very slim and non-existent and that he would be much better served admitting guilt so that his sentence is commuted to a lesser one than the maximum, which 5 years in prison is no joke.

What this looks more like is not necessarily the charge to Flynn but obviously using that to get to the closer nitty gritty, most probably Jared Kuchner's involvement.

The article you linked also tries to make light of these charges by stating how Manafort's charges are ones that don't even coincide with the time of the Trump campaign. But that's also another way of putting the squeezes on him to give up other people.

 

[RabzonKhan]

Trump on Monday called child molester Roy Moore and endorsed his campaign.

And the shameless Republican party has resumed funding the child molester.

In the latest RCP average poll (11/20 – 12/2) child molester Republican Roy Moore is leading Democratic Doug Jones by 2.6 points.

This damn church should not receive tax exemptions since they have now endorsed the child molester candidate, freaking scums.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

Final GOP tax bill will likely scrap Obamacare individual mandate, top House tax writer Brady says

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/05/kev...l-to-repeal-obamacare-individual-mandate.html

 

[Gomig-21]

Final GOP tax bill will likely scrap Obamacare individual mandate, top House tax writer Brady says

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/05/kev...l-to-repeal-obamacare-individual-mandate.html

This is one of the very few things in the bill that I actually support. I think Obama botched this one when he mandated everyone must have insurance or they get penalized on their tax returns. That just doesn't sit right because it hurts the millions who can't afford to buy insurance and they do exist, in the millions. So then on top of not being able to afford health insurance, they get fined for it on their low incomes!? Where was the logic in that? Then they either have to go out and get a plan with a huge deductible that is practically useless just to keep the cost down. Other than that, this bill has a lot of major issues. Aside from the fact that there are no guarantees it will pay for itself or any provisions to insure that, the major beneficiaries are of course, the corporations who are getting the biggest cuts. The middle class is still getting shanked.

Thinking the corporate taxes will bring jobs back from overseas because these companies will now pay less taxes so they can afford to operate in the US is simply flawed thinking or more like disingenuous than anything else. Without a mandate to force these huge companies to invest those extra earning into bringing those jobs back to the US, they'll only pocket the additional revenues or invest them in stocks or simply make more money lol. Where's the guarantee that they will recycle the money? It's so ridiculously conning that no wonder not a single democrat is voting for this thing. And of course they cannot mandate how these companies can spend that extra revenue since that goes completely against democratic and capitalistic values. So essentially these huge corporations will earn more, get away with paying less taxes, and certainly won't guarantee any rise in jobs here in the US or anything of the sort. In essence, we've been scammed.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

Conyers' exit after decades could open political floodgates

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wire...ed-conyers-alleges-sexual-harassment-51613701

John Conyers Son and Heir Apparent Arrested for Felony Domestic Violence

http://www.tmz.com/2017/12/06/john-conyers-son-arrested-felony-domestic-violence/

 

[RabzonKhan]

Democrat Sen Al Franken is resigning, I think he made the right decision, now, while a Democrat senator is resigning, Republican party, the party of “Church and family values” is supporting a child molester for Senate seat, what a disgrace.

Al Franken announces intention to resign from Senate over sexual misconduct allegations

Christopher Wilson Yahoo News•December 7, 2017

Sen. Al Franken, D-Minn., on Thursday announced his plans to resign following a series of allegations from women accusing him of sexual harassment and misconduct.

Franken said that while he believes an ethics committee investigation would find him innocent, he didn’t feel he could continue to serve and would be stepping down in the coming weeks.

“Some of the allegations against me are simply not true,” said Franken during his address, “others I remember very differently.”

He also took a shot at Republicans on his way out the door.

“There is some irony that I am leaving while a man who bragged on tape about his history of sexual assault sits in the Oval Office, and a man who preyed on young girls runs for Senate with the full support of his party,” said Franken, referencing President Trump and Alabama Senate candidate Roy Moore. Read more

https://twitter.com/x/status/938160754490052609

Very well said, Sir. Country should always be above party. Republican Sen. Jeff Flake of Arizona is supporting Democrat candidate Doug Jones for Alabama Senate seat.

https://twitter.com/x/status/937799838082781186

Former Republican presidential candidate, Mitt Romney is also supporting Democrat Doug Jones.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

Democrat Sen Al Franken is resigning, I think he made the right decision, now, while a Democrat senator is resigning, Republican party, the party of “Church and family values” is supporting a child molester for Senate seat, what a disgrace.

Al Franken announces intention to resign from Senate over sexual misconduct allegations

Christopher Wilson Yahoo News•December 7, 2017

Sen. Al Franken, D-Minn., on Thursday announced his plans to resign following a series of allegations from women accusing him of sexual harassment and misconduct.

Franken said that while he believes an ethics committee investigation would find him innocent, he didn’t feel he could continue to serve and would be stepping down in the coming weeks.

“Some of the allegations against me are simply not true,” said Franken during his address, “others I remember very differently.”

He also took a shot at Republicans on his way out the door.

“There is some irony that I am leaving while a man who bragged on tape about his history of sexual assault sits in the Oval Office, and a man who preyed on young girls runs for Senate with the full support of his party,” said Franken, referencing President Trump and Alabama Senate candidate Roy Moore. Read more

https://twitter.com/x/status/938160754490052609

Very well said, Sir. Country should always be above party. Republican Sen. Jeff Flake of Arizona is supporting Democrat candidate Doug Jones for Alabama Senate seat.

https://twitter.com/x/status/937799838082781186

Former Republican presidential candidate, Mitt Romney is also supporting Democrat Doug Jones.

There is no proof Roy Moore molested anyone. In the west, the law is very clear, innocent unless proven guilty.

 

[Gomig-21]

There is no proof Roy Moore molested anyone. In the west, the law is very clear, innocent unless proven guilty.

You're 100% correct, innocent until proven guilty. But it is hard not to believe at least 5 women who have come forward and accused this creep. While there have been some cases of women making false accusations, there are also terrible consequences to doing that and the percentage are much higher that they're telling the truth. It doesn't make much sense that these women would come out and make these claims under false pretenses, especially when most of them were teenagers at the time and are elder women now.

It also doesn't mean he's innocent by any stretch of the imagination. Look what Anita Hill went through back in 1990, and she took a beating for standing her ground in front of the world, and where is Clarence Thomas today? He's still a supreme court justice!

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

You're 100% correct, innocent until proven guilty. But it is hard not to believe at least 5 women who have come forward and accused this creep. While there have been some cases of women making false accusations, there are also terrible consequences to doing that and the percentage are much higher that they're telling the truth. It doesn't make much sense that these women would come out and make these claims under false pretenses, especially when most of them were teenagers at the time and are elder women now.

It also doesn't mean he's innocent by any stretch of the imagination. Look what Anita Hill went through back in 1990, and she took a beating for standing her ground in front of the world, and where is Clarence Thomas today? He's still a supreme court justice!

They never cared when Roy Moore run for chief justice of Alabama supreme court. Why would they care now? Oh, because Roy Moore is running for US Senate which would tilt power away from Democrats.

 

[katsung47]

GOP Senators Believe Roy Moore's Accusers But Not Donald Trump's

Jennifer Bendery,HuffPost• November 14, 2017

Moore’s scandal has put his party in an incredibly uncomfortable predicament: the more Republicans say the allegations by five women against Moore are proof that he doesn’t belong in the Senate, the more hypocritical they look for ignoring the 16 women who have accused Trump of sexual assault and helping him become president.

The White House position on the president’s accusers is that they are all liars. Trump denied all of the allegations again last month, calling them “fake news” and “made-up stuff.”

So why do Republicans believe Moore’s accusers but not Trump’s? HuffPost spent Tuesday asking GOP senators why the situations are different. Few could offer a convincing argument, instead opting to shrug their shoulders, pivot or abruptly walk away.


news/senators-believe-roy-moore-apos-232401331.html

 

[Gomig-21]

They never cared when Roy Moore run for chief justice of Alabama supreme court. Why would they care now? Oh, because Roy Moore is running for US Senate which would tilt power away from Democrats.

They care now because ever since Harvey Weinstein, many women have been empowered to come out of their shells and aren't afraid or embarrassed or shamed to talk about a horrible time of abuse in their lives. It's called "strength in numbers." Not a difficult thing to understand. Look at all the celebrities and politiians dropping like flies and women coming out of the woodwork left and right. That's why.

Should be an interesting special senate election tonight in Alabama. Let's hope it goes the right way.

 

[F-22Raptor]

This Alabama race is insane right now. It's a dead heat.

 

[KAL-EL]

Fox News just called it for Doug Jones. Wow..