US needs India for its 'stamina,India, Israel,us must join hands to fight "Islamic terror"- swamy

[TISSOT]

Aspersions bright spark.

What connection does Mr. Swamy marrying a Parsi have with the obvious contempt he holds Islam and Muslims in?

And what proof do you have that Dr. Swamy (not Mr.) holds Islam and muslims in contempt ?


Thanks for the spell check. One of the few times you get to be right.

 

[padamchen]

And what proof do you have that Dr. Swamy (not Mr.) holds Islam and muslims in contempt ?

It is obvious to anyone who reads what he says. And he says a lot. He's even been rapped by the Delhi HC (?) for hate speech. Something he promised to take note of and not do again. Contritely. So its not my mind playing tricks on me.

What do guys like you and Dragon hope to gain out of jumping on one Indian when the whole world knows that Swamy hates Muslims and Islam? Is there an agenda? Does he need your support to airbrush the moles? I do not think he cares. Why do you?

 

[TISSOT]

It is obvious to anyone who reads what he says. And he says a lot. He's even been rapped by the Delhi HC (?) for hate speech. Something he promised to take note of and not do again. Contritely. So its not my mind playing tricks on me.

I have read what he has said/written. Everything he says is backed by facts or undeniable logic.

SO how is that hate ?

Hate is that which is not backed by reason or logic.

So far even the SC has refused to give a writ on hate speech against Dr. Swamy despite being asked by dr. Swamy to do so.

Even then, making hate speech is not the same as being hateful.

For e.g. If a person threatens to kill someone, it not necessarily be out of hate. So even making threats is not hate speech.

 

[padamchen]

Hate is that which is not backed by reason or logic.

Rubbish.

You are mixing hate and bigotry.

Back to school for you bright spark. And English medium one this time preferably.

 

[Dragon Ball]

Its very obvious to most people that he more that just "does not think very highly of them." How do you assume that he does not hate Muslims and what they stand for? One bright spark suggested that his daughter marrying one was proof of that. Oscar and I actually believe exactly the opposite. That it was his hate of Muslims that drove his daughter into the arms of one.

I don't have to assume anything. He speaks and confabulates with Muslims all the time and nothing he has said has ever stood out as being out of ordinary observation of even impartial observers. All you are doing by laying out more of your absurd beliefs about his family is displaying your own bigotry. Dr. Swamy's family is very very multi-faith, his wife being a Parsi, his sister-in-laws being Christians and Jews. The time period during which Dr. Swamy's daughter got married was also the time period when Dr. Swamy had long broken off with RSS and had a running feud with them. All in the cause of "secularism." You display the exact same ineptitude of sickularists who jump to conclusions out of their own bigotry and self hate about Hindutva ideologues while not having a clue about them.

 

[padamchen]

I don't have to assume anything. He speaks and confabulates with Muslims all the time and nothing he has said has ever stood out as being out of ordinary observation of even impartial observers. All you are doing by laying out more of your absurd beliefs about his family is displaying your own bigotry. Dr. Swamy's family is very very multi-faith, his wife being a Parsi, his sister-in-laws being Christians and Jews. The time period during which Dr. Swamy's daughter got married was also the time period when Dr. Swamy had long broken off with RSS and had a running feud with them. All in the cause of "secularism." You display the exact same ineptitude of sickularists who jump to conclusions out of their own bigotry and self hate about Hindutva ideologues while not having a clue about them.

So one cannot and does not talk (confabulate with) to those one hates. More nonsense.

And again. Parsi, Christian, Jew is not Muslim. Do not be dense.

 

[Dragon Ball]

It is obvious to anyone who reads what he says. And he says a lot. He's even been rapped by the Delhi HC (?) for hate speech. Something he promised to take note of and not do again. Contritely. So its not my mind playing tricks on me.

There was no rapping by the HC either. He has gone on to reiterate his position on the article he wrote a hundred times since then and it is all kosher.

So one cannot and does not talk (confabulate with) to those one hates. More nonsense.

And again. Parsi, Christian, Jew is not Muslim. Do not be dense.

Yes it is rather hard to talk to people with cordiality and civility as Dr. Swamy does when one is frothing at the mouth from hate. You do understand the term Hate?

Paris, Christian, Jews are not Muslims, but it does show Dr. Swamy comes from a background where being a Hindu is not the sole identity acceptable to be considered family. So how exactly did this broadminded approach drive Suhasini to Haider's arms in rebellion?

 

[padamchen]

Yes it is rather hard to talk to people with cordiality and civility as Dr. Swamy does when one is frothing at the mouth from hate. You do understand the term Hate?

Ted Bundy apparently hated women. He was extremely sociable, likeable, mild mannered.

You too do not have a clue about hate.

Paris, Christian, Jews are not Muslims, but it does show Dr. Swamy comes from a background where being a Hindu is not the sole identity acceptable to be considered family. So how exactly did this broadminded approach drive Suhasini to Haider's arms in rebellion?

Once more, may I request. Do not be dense. Parsi, Christian, Jew, or Buddhist, Sikh or Rastafarian is not Muslim. Just because a man is ok or even welcoming of others does not mean he cannot or does not hate one. What sort of mayajaal are you weaving buddy? Baccha hun mai?

 

[The Eagle]

So he is openly offering Indian services to the US against Russia which is currently trying to control the Syrian crises, especially the Assad subject. I hope the Hon'ble Russian Ambassador would be reading the same as well to understand but wait; it was expected slowly but gradually after signing the LEMOA. So now Swamy wants take back what Russia controlled in Syria or wants only to join US-Israeli coalition against Islam. The later is possibility that extremist are loosing control on their thoughts and minds.

 

[Hindustani78]

So he is openly offering Indian services to the US against Russia which is currently trying to control the Syrian crises, especially the Assad subject. I hope the Hon'ble Russian Ambassador would be reading the same as well to understand but wait; it was expected slowly but gradually after signing the LEMOA. So now Swamy wants take back what Russia controlled in Syria or wants only to join US-Israeli coalition against Islam. The later is possibility that extremist are loosing control on their thoughts and minds.

its a known fact that the policies adopted by State of Israel have raised so many questions in United Nations .

 

[The Eagle]

its a known fact that the policies adopted by State of Israel have raised so many questions in United Nations .

and yet NaMO compared IA with IDF which itself enough to raise many questions about IA also, I don't think you would want India into the same list of UN where currently Israel stands. And to fight what :The Islamic Terror"? so what about Hindu Terror, the Christian Terror or Jewish or Secular or Buddism or any other terrorist that may or may not link to any religion in this world?

 

[Hindustani78]

and yet NaMO compared IA with IDF which itself enough to raise many questions about IA also, I don't think you would want India into the same list of UN where currently Israel stands. And to fight what :The Islamic Terror"? so what about Hindu Terror, the Christian Terror or Jewish or Secular or Buddism or any other terrorist that may or may not link to any religion in this world?

Here its more about the Military alliance among the big powers.

Republic of India is having its national interest and foreign policy which is not allied with State of Israel nowhere and its strange for me to even read how come Republic of India be even compared with small country such as State of Israel which itself a dependable country .

 

[CBU-105]

If india enter into war in syria with US and israel then it will be without any doubt fighting their enemies. They both want bashar gone. they both target hezbullah regularly.
That is a conditional statement. "If india join hands with us and israel in syria"

The US policy in Syria is all set to turn a 180 degrees with Trump, Israel aren't that involved on the ground.

Besides, I already said that it's not going to happen, and there are many reasons for that. One of them being that even China are a good many years away from being in a position to project military power overseas in far away areas like the middle east. Easy to imagine a scenario within the next couple decades where they might get involved in some sort of resource war in Africa to protect their assets, some beleaguered small African state government might invite them in to help with jungle guerrilla rebels or something.

India ? not so much, but it'd be glorious if an IAF squadron or two were to deploy to Syria to bomb the shit out of the FSA and ISIS.

 

[Dragon Ball]

Ted Bundy apparently hated women. He was extremely sociable, likeable, mild mannered.

You too do not have a clue about hate.



Once more, may I request. Do not be dense. Parsi, Christian, Jew, or Buddhist, Sikh or Rastafarian is not Muslim. Just because a man is ok or even welcoming of others does not mean he cannot or does not hate one. What sort of mayajaal are you weaving buddy? Baccha hun mai?

So now you are comparing Dr. Swamy with a psychopath? Dr. Swamy's reservations or even dislike of Muslims is equivivalent to Ted Bundy's murderous desires? Wow. RIP logic.

Yeah yeah very believable that Suhasini Haider who grew up in a multifaith house decides to marry not for love but to spite her father the only faith he purportedly hates. I would not call you a baccha and insult bacchas. You are a brainwashed zombie.

 

[kvpak]

----------- BJP MP Subramanian Swamy said the US, for whom this is a setback, now needs India in its corner ----------------------

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I also wrote that Sri Lanka is not a reliable ally or friend to America in South Asia. In a 2002 article titled " Sri Lanka, America and India: Two Suitors for a Lady" [Reference 3], I explained this with couple of examples and closed the article with the following statement: "What America needs in South Asia is not a wavering, opportunistic friend but a solid and capable ally that would stand by it whether it rains or shines." It is up to the Tamil leaders to convince American officials that they could be such an ally.

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