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Chinese Carrier Battle Group (CVBG) FormationLiaoning escort group 4 ).jpg
 
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What do you mean "Of course it's not US Navy, an USN CBG have a lot more ship that this....lol"?

what are the no of american warships in the following formations?


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Carrier Strike Group Nine underway (19 September 2010)
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USS George Washington (CVN 73) Carrier Strike Group formation sails in the Atlantic Ocean

File:US Navy 031130-N-3653A-002 USS George Washington (CVN 73) Carrier Strike Group formation sails in the Atlantic Ocean.jpg - Wikimedia Commons


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The Enterprise Carrier Strike group (CSG) sails through the Atlantic Ocean in formation

File:US Navy 060507-N-0119G-002 The Enterprise Carrier Strike group (CSG) sails through the Atlantic Ocean in formation.jpg - Wikimedia Commons

USN CBG consisted of 10-12 Combat ship, 5-10 supporting ship and unknown number of Submarine

For example, Strike Group one consist of

USS Carl Vinson (CVN-70)
USS Bunker Hill (CG-52)
USS Lake Camplain (CG-57)

-Destroyer Sqn 1
USS Stockdale (DDG-106)
USS Gridley (DDG-76)
USS Higgins (DDG-76)
USS Rentz (FFG-46)
USS McClusky (FFG-41)

-Ambipihous Assault Group (LHD)
1 of the 9 LHA/LHA +
2 Destroyer
2 Oiler
2 Mine Sweeper
4-5 Combat Logistic Support ship
Unknown number of Submarine


800px-Abraham-Lincoln-battlegroup.jpg

Full USS Lincoln Battle group, without LHD element. - 21 Ships (photo 2000 RIM Pac Exercise)
Chinese battlegroup with LHD = 9 ship.

So, a single US CBG have a lot more ship than Chinese CBG (unless you said 21, Potentially 25 vs 9 is not alot....then i got nothing to say...)
 
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USN CBG consisted of 10-12 Combat ship, 5-10 supporting ship and unknown number of Submarine

For example, Strike Group one consist of

USS Carl Vinson (CVN-70)
USS Bunker Hill (CG-52)
USS Lake Camplain (CG-57)

-Destroyer Sqn 1
USS Stockdale (DDG-106)
USS Gridley (DDG-76)
USS Higgins (DDG-76)
USS Rentz (FFG-46)
USS McClusky (FFG-41)

-Ambipihous Assault Group (LHD)
1 of the 9 LHA/LHA +
2 Destroyer
2 Oiler
2 Mine Sweeper
4-5 Combat Logistic Support ship
Unknown number of Submarine


800px-Abraham-Lincoln-battlegroup.jpg

Full USS Lincoln Battle group, without LHD element. - 21 Ships (photo 2000 RIM Pac Exercise)
Chinese battlegroup with LHD = 9 ship.

So, a single US CBG have a lot more ship than Chinese CBG (unless you said 21, Potentially 25 vs 9 is not alot....then i got nothing to say...)



You compare US naval force to China naval force barely form their 1st carrier battle group for training? US been operate 10 nuclear carrier battle group for over 20+ years, China form the training battle group barely 1 year, how do you know how many support ship will form when China fully have their carrier battle group ready for war in the future.
 
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You compare US naval force to China naval force barely form their 1st carrier battle group for training? US been operate 10 nuclear carrier battle group for over 20+ years, China form the training battle group barely 1 year, how do you know how many support ship will form when China fully have their carrier battle group ready for war in the future.

Dude, i did not start this comparsion, look at the OP title??

US Navy?No,this is PLAN.

I merely say this is of course not USN CBG, as USN CBG have a lot more ship then that. Someone disagree and i explaint to them why. What is the problem with that?

WHen China have a full CBG and close to the number of ship of that US's. i may not have the same comment (Depending on what ship they will have in the future)

But for now, is there any thing wrong with my comment? I don't believe so.
 
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Dude, i did not start this comparsion, look at the OP title??

US Navy?No,this is PLAN.

I merely say this is of course not USN CBG, as USN CBG have a lot more ship then that. Someone disagree and i explaint to them why. What is the problem with that?

WHen China have a full CBG and close to the number of ship of that US's. i may not have the same comment (Depending on what ship they will have in the future)

But for now, is there any thing wrong with my comment? I don't believe so.


All I read out of the title of this thread, don't mistaken this picture for US Naval battle group but this is China PLAN Naval battle group formation. You read the title of a thread and come up with a conclusion this thread mean to compare with the US Naval force?

China navy shipyard build their own battle ship, when need they can build it quick and in large number, as for naval base, how can China negotiate with other nation to build naval base outside of China since they haven't have 1 single carrier battle group operate or in training before last yr.
 
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@sincity

Are you really this thick? Or u just want to have anything to argue?

Op said, US Navy? No, this is PLAN

I replied, of course not, an US navy battle group have 25-30 warshp, I see 9 there

When did I compare the US Navy and the Plan? China can build 1000 warship if they want and have a 100 ship CBG if they want, but this is not the OP picture is showing isn't it?

Then some one here do not agree on how many ship the US CBG have, I simply explain it to him and list the ship of how many ship in a US CBG

So, exactly when did I star comparing the strength of USN and Plan, I believe if I have to do a dicking contest, I would have list all the ship USN is currently operating
 
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@sincity

Are you really this thick? Or u just want to have anything to argue?

Op said, US Navy? No, this is PLAN

I replied, of course not, an US navy battle group have 25-30 warshp, I see 9 there

When did I compare the US Navy and the Plan? China can build 1000 warship if they want and have a 100 ship CBG if they want, but this is not the OP picture is showing isn't it?

Then some one here do not agree on how many ship the US CBG have, I simply explain it to him and list the ship of how many ship in a US CBG

So, exactly when did I star comparing the strength of USN and Plan, I believe if I have to do a dicking contest, I would have list all the ship USN is currently operating





Just relax, I only ask you a question that are you compare US carrier battle group to China carrier battle group, since now you stated you not compare between the US and China CBG. What is a big deal when I just ask a question? If in your mind don't want to compare you wouldn't draw your own conclusion the OP make this thread to compare with the US.
 
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Just relax, I only ask you a question that are you compare US carrier battle group to China carrier battle group, since now you stated you not compare between the US and China CBG. What is a big deal when I just ask a question? If in your mind don't want to compare you wouldn't draw your own conclusion the OP make this thread to compare with the US.

Dude, i said twice that I merely pointing out the fact that the OP photo is not of USN CBG as there are only 9 ships in it, when the USN have at least 25 ships. This is nothing to confuse about

If the member did not question me if indeed USN battlegroup have more ship than Chinese (he is then comparing) I will not list what ship it had in a USN CBG

Seems like you need to get back down the earth buddy, cause you seems more focus on potential dick measure than I do. Otherwise you would not ask me twice after I insist I am not the one start doing it
 
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Dude, i did not start this comparsion, look at the OP title??

US Navy?No,this is PLAN.

I merely say this is of course not USN CBG, as USN CBG have a lot more ship then that. Someone disagree and i explaint to them why. What is the problem with that?

WHen China have a full CBG and close to the number of ship of that US's. i may not have the same comment (Depending on what ship they will have in the future)

But for now, is there any thing wrong with my comment? I don't believe so.
And we don't have ski jumps on our carriers besides.....
 
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Dude, i said twice that I merely pointing out the fact that the OP photo is not of USN CBG as there are only 9 ships in it, when the USN have at least 25 ships. This is nothing to confuse about

If the member did not question me if indeed USN battlegroup have more ship than Chinese (he is then comparing) I will not list what ship it had in a USN CBG

Seems like you need to get back down the earth buddy, cause you seems more focus on potential dick measure than I do. Otherwise you would not ask me twice after I insist I am not the one start doing it



Alright then, since you make it clear your intention not to compare China navy vs US navy and just pointed out how many support ship US naval required to form a aircraft carrier battle group, as for me why would I want to compare US navy vs China navy or other nation navy? The whole world know US Naval projection force is par non the king of the crop in this world. Not even China Naval ambition want to be on par with the US naval force operate worldwide. It's feeble for China navy decision maker want to supplant US naval force in the near term but in the future who know how China naval projection will take it course.
 
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PS....@sincity ...I guess my assertion that you were Chinese was dead on, eh? And you can have 1,000 ships in that group....our ships are distinct (as are Russian carriers...which this is)...no one with any knowledge of Navy ships would confuse it with American CBG.
 
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PS....@sincity ...I guess my assertion that you were Chinese was dead on, eh?



Your assertion I'm a Chinese base on factual evidence or presumption? So I post a question and reply to other poster that make I'm a Chinese?

That your logic behind your assertion base on the posts I had in Pakistan forum?
 
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Your assertion I'm a Chinese base on factual evidence or presumption? So I post a question and reply to other poster that make I'm a Chinese?

That your logic behind your assertion base on the posts I had in Pakistan forum?
Nice thing....I am able to piece together previous flags, language usage, and previous post to come to a logical conclusion. Critical thinking skills are quite valuable in the long-run.
 
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