US Naval War College Professor: China would crush Vietnam and Philippines

[Battle of Bach Dang River]

n.k.s are just like v.n.s.

Both are double-faced ungrateful bastards.

In n.k. n.k.s were told kim was the main force to defeat u.s. led u.n. forces. China was rarely mentioned.
In v.n., its own generals were the main leaders to defeat france as well as us. China was not even mentioned.

Frankly, I did not deny that there were some "advisors" Chinese in Vietnam at that time. But they did recommend that we use the tactic of "human waves" of Chinese tradition. Fortunately, Great General Vo Nguyen Giap did not listen. He knew that the French cannon fire is very strong at that time. Special tactics helped him with his young army equipped rudimentary, victory over the French...

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Qing is Manchus did it, not you Han Chinese rulled China.

Chinese is liar when mention to Chinese adviser. In fact our general Vo Nguyen Giap has putting them to relax, be course he advised us to use human wave tactic to attack.
Vietnamese have been enclosured France Soldiers in to valley named Dien Bien Phu untill they surrendered.

All Vietnamese respect and be-love Giap General.

Manchus really want to be Chinese by voluntarily giving up their own language and customs.

They are not Han, but they are Chinese.

 

[ephone]

BTW, do not be such shallow minded. Chinese is not just Han Chinese, but also included other minorities. Manchus is one as well.

Manchus were tribes under Ming Empire's control and still was part of China. They grew stronger, took advantage of the peasant revolution during the end of Ming Empire, and took China under control to become a minority empire. That is it.





You must be dumb enough to believe that Chinese generals, advisors only know "human wave" tactics.

If that is the case, men, how the hell did PLA defeated 8 million ROC armies, and kicked the U.S. led U.N. forces during korean war??? That must be the biggest myth in history.

Qing is Manchus did it, not you Han Chinese rulled China.

Chinese is liar when mention to Chinese adviser. In fact our general Vo Nguyen Giap has putting them to relax, be course he advised us to use human wave tactic to attack.
Vietnamese have been enclosured France Soldiers in to valley named Dien Bien Phu untill they surrendered.

All Vietnamese respect and be-love Giap General.

We already know that: the almight vn won the fights over france and u.s. all by itself. GOOD for you.

Frankly, I did not deny that there were some "advisors" Chinese in Vietnam at that time. But they did recommend that we use the tactic of "human waves" of Chinese tradition. Fortunately, Great General Vo Nguyen Giap did not listen. He knew that the French cannon fire is very strong at that time. Special tactics helped him with his young army equipped rudimentary, victory over the French...

 

[Battle of Bach Dang River]

You must be dumb enough to believe that Chinese generals, advisors only know "human wave" tactics.

If that is the case, men, how the hell did PLA defeated 8 million ROC armies, and kicked the U.S. led U.N. forces during korean war??? That must be the biggest myth in history.



We already know that: the almight vn won the fights over france and u.s. all by itself. GOOD for you.

That is because the ROC with a similar strategy, but they had less than troops.
On the US side, he was unexpected. That was the most glorious victory of the chinese "human waves"

 

[gambit]

You must be dumb enough to believe that Chinese generals, advisors only know "human wave" tactics.

That was the only thing they offered Giap at Điện Biên Phủ. He got so pissed off at the Chinese advisors that he nearly physically kicked them off the battlefield.

If that is the case, men, how the hell did PLA defeated 8 million ROC armies, and kicked the U.S. led U.N. forces during korean war??? That must be the biggest myth in history.

Through human wave tactics. Of Chinese and Korean men, the communists had plenty to spare.

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

That was the only thing they offered Giap at Điện Biên Phủ. He got so pissed off at the Chinese advisors that he nearly physically kicked them off the battlefield.


Through human wave tactics. Of Chinese and Korean men, the communists had plenty to spare.

More South Koreans died than Chinese. We cleared out Seoul multiple times.

 

[Starblazer]

That was the only thing they offered Giap at Điện Biên Phủ. He got so pissed off at the Chinese advisors that he nearly physically kicked them off the battlefield.


Through human wave tactics. Of Chinese and Korean men, the communists had plenty to spare.

If only Chinese and Korean men were tinier like Vietnamese, they could of used tunnel rat and **** on a stick tactics better and make smaller targets too.

 

[Battle of Bach Dang River]

If only Chinese and Korean men were tinier like Vietnamese, they could of used tunnel rat and **** on a stick tactics better and make smaller targets too.

At least it was better than chinese "human waves" tactics, because it did not boil troops stupidly by the enemy's cannon....

 

[SinoChallenger]

How was the language changed? Mandarin was called 官话 for thousands of years.

Now what was real slavery? Korea province, Japanese empire.

Koreans had to send hundreds of virgins to Ming and Qing every year. When the Japanese came for Korea, they massacred the Korean royal family and brutalized the population so badly Korean on Korean violence was everywhere. Then South Korea got gangbanged by WW2 victors USA and China. What a miserable people, living on half rotten cabbages.

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

At least it was better than chinese "human waves" tactics, because it did not boil troops stupidly by the enemy's cannon....

Sure it did. You lost 3 million vs. the Americans who only lost 50000. That's a horrendous loss far exceeding Chinese "human waves".

 

[gambit]

Sure it did. You lost 3 million vs. the Americans who only lost 50000. That's a horrendous loss far exceeding Chinese "human waves".

And that is the point: That the human wave tactic is the only thing the PLA knew, was good at, and exported. Am willing to bet that if there is a land war right now between the PLA and any other army, the PLA will resort to the same thing. The unprofessionalism of the PLA and its ignorance of land warfare were evident in the border clashes with Viet Nam.

 

[Battle of Bach Dang River]

Sure it did. You lost 3 million vs. the Americans who only lost 50000. That's a horrendous loss far exceeding Chinese "human waves".

You did not have the wisdom to understand that it was the number of casualties on both sides, the Vietnamese communists and Vietnamese national.
Furthermore, it lasts for decades, while chinese "human wave" cannot be prolonged, because you did boil all chinese troops in only some days.

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

And that is the point: That the human wave tactic is the only thing the PLA knew, was good at, and exported. Am willing to bet that if there is a land war right now between the PLA and any other army, the PLA will resort to the same thing. The unprofessionalism of the PLA and its ignorance of land warfare were evident in the border clashes with Viet Nam.

Oh, the same border clashes where we rolled into Vietnam, burned down their infrastructure and eliminated 180,000 rebels?

You did not have the wisdom to understand that it was the number of casualties on both sides, the Vietnamese communists and Vietnamese nationalists.
Furthermore, it lasts for decades, while chinese "human wave" cannot be prolonged, because you did boil all chinese troops in only some days.

Why has China consistently lost less soldiers than the other side then? 180,000 Chinese dead in Korea vs. 1 million Koreans and 57,000 Americans. That was on their land too.

That is in contrast to 3 million Vietnamese killed by Americans on their own land.

Now I'm not insulting you. I'm just telling you some facts.

 

[SinoChallenger]

And that is the point: That the human wave tactic is the only thing the PLA knew, was good at, and exported. Am willing to bet that if there is a land war right now between the PLA and any other army, the PLA will resort to the same thing. The unprofessionalism of the PLA and its ignorance of land warfare were evident in the border clashes with Viet Nam.

Then go to the front line and experience PLA for yourself

 

[Battle of Bach Dang River]

Oh, the same border clashes where we rolled into Vietnam, burned down their infrastructure and eliminated 180,000 rebels?



Why has China consistently lost less soldiers than the other side then? 180,000 Chinese dead in Korea vs. 1 million Koreans and 57,000 Americans. That was on their land too.

That is in contrast to 3 million Vietnamese killed by Americans on their own land.

Now I'm not insulting you. I'm just telling you some facts.

The comparison did not match. You should compare it with the wars in China lands, example Japan - China war