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Do you honestly believe in the possibility of Zaid Hamid's interpretation of Ghazwa-e-Hind in the light of the fact that India have nuclear weapons now?
The relevant Hadith might be pointing towards incursions of Islamic forces in India starting with Muhammad Bin Qasim that eventually culminated into formation of Mughal Empire there.
Even if what you allege is remotely true, at the end of the day the foot soldiers who blew them-selfs are either your own citizens or you friend Afghans.
You will still have to admit the the soil is so fertile that the agencies mentioned by you can easily utilize them. So it is not the success of the agencies, rather the twisted mindset that exist within you society that is the root cause.
Wow, another Mumbai.
Well keep on beating the Mujaheddin drum, it will be always in the better interest of Pakistan's foe. Can't you see it's your Mujaheddin and Jihad policy which has done more harm to Pakistan and Afghanistan than anyone else in the region.
Alas some people don't even learn it the hard way.
Because india deserve this .What happened madamji .
Even our resident anti Indian haters didnt shows this much hate
We are dirty and impure then ,so be it .
As far as I can tell this thread has gone on for 7 pages over FAKE news.
The original article quotes Dawn..yet I see no article in Dawn about it.
I see no news source reporting this "story". It is Eastern Media posting fake news and everybody is eating it up like candy.
What legitimizes the translations? ,The translators who wrote them years later after the actual events took place,not to mention the translators have failed to translate many of his works?
Nobody can see the future ,Its a sin in Islam to talk such idiotic claims,Nobody but Allah alone knows the future.
What naiatullah wali (R.A) had was just instinct.
What we shouldn't be confusing is that the difference between instinct and the actual future timeline ,Its just a rough estimate .
According to what I believe ,Pakistan will be thoroughly defeated followed by the attack of allies that drive back India.
How can you defend a place like attock ,Its just simple plains and impossible to defend with no substantial natural or geographical features to assist in such a militaristic manner.
look for this title instead, it is the exact same content..
India may launch aggressive actions in Pakistan
http://www.thefinancialexpress-bd.c...y-launch-aggressive-actions-in-Pakistan/print
http://epaper.dawn.com/DetailImage.php?StoryImage=13_05_2017_005_008
http://www.dnanews.com.pk/india-may-launch-aggressive-actions-pakistan-us-spies/
And many more..
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Because india deserve this .
Indian's are never friend to pakistan, they always show hatred , prejudice and abuses to pakistan then nuking it forever is better way .
What legitimizes the translations? ,The translators who wrote them years later after the actual events took place,not to mention the translators have failed to translate many of his works?
Nobody can see the future ,Its a sin in Islam to talk such idiotic claims,Nobody but Allah alone knows the future.
What naiatullah wali (R.A) had was just instinct.
What we shouldn't be confusing is that the difference between instinct and the actual future timeline ,Its just a rough estimate .
According to what I believe ,Pakistan will be thoroughly defeated followed by the attack of allies that drive back India.
How can you defend a place like attock ,Its just simple plains and impossible to defend with no substantial natural or geographical features to assist in such a militaristic manner.
When the time for the birth of Hadhrat ‘Isa (May peace be upon him) drew close, his mother Hadhrat Maryam (May peace be upon her) approached a dry date palm with no dates on it. Allah Most High said:
And shake the trunk of the palm-tree toward thee, thou wilt cause ripe dates to fall upon thee.
Allah says in the Holy Quran: “And (the people of the Cave [Kahf]) stayed in their cave for three hundred years and they added another (nine) years (to that).” [Surah Kahf 18:25]
And you see that the sun, when it rises, moves to the right from their cave and inclines obliquely from them to the left when it sets while they are (lying) in the open chamber of the cave. This (change of the sun’s course) is one of the (great) Signs of Allah’s (Might). He whom Allah guides is the one who is rightly guided, but one whom He holds strayed you will not find for him any Wali (friend to help) and Murshid (guide to show the path). [Surah Kahf 18:17]
He (Khidr) said, ‘If you remain with me, then ask, not anything, unless I myself mention it. Now both of them set out, until when they embarked in a boat, he cleaved it. Musa told, ‘have you cleaved it in order to drown its passengers, undoubtedly you have done a wrong thing.’ He said? ‘Did I not tell you, that you would not be able to stay with me.’ Musa said, ‘catch me not for what I forgot and put not difficulty in my affair on me. Again, both of them set out, until when they met a boy he killed him, Musa said. ‘Have you killed an innocent soul without his having killed another? Undoubtedly you have done a hideous thing’. He said, ‘Had I not told you, that you could never keep company with me’? Musa said, ‘If I ask anything to you after this, then keep not company with me; undoubtedly, your excuse is already fulfilled from my side’. Again both went on till they came to the people of a village, they asked the villagers for food, but they refused to entertain them, then the two found a wall about to fall, he set it up right. Musa said, ‘if you had wished, you could have taken a wage for it’. He said, ‘this is the separation between me and you’; now I shall tell you the explanation of those things over which you could not have patience. As for the boat, it belonged to certain poor people who were working in the sea, then I intended to make it faulty and behind them, there was a king who used to seize every perfect boat forcibly. And as for the boy, his parents were Muslims, then we feared that he might involve them in contumacy and infidelity. Then we intended their Lord might give them one better than he in purity and nearer in affection. As for that wall, it belonged to the two orphan lads of the city and underneath it was their treasure and their father was a noble man; then your Lord desired that those two should reach their maturity and bring forth their treasure as a mercy from your Lord, and this I did, not of my own biding. This is the significance of those things on which you could not have patience [Surah Kahf 18:70 to 82]
The whole story of Moses and Al-Khidr is also told in a hadith and the best commentary of verses & event in words of our beloved Prophet himself:
Narrated Ibn Juraij: Ya’la bin Muslim and ‘Amr bin Dinar and some others narrated the narration of Said bin Jubair. Narrated Said: While we were at the house of Ibn ‘Abbas, Ibn ‘Abbas said, “Ask me (any question)” I said, “O Abu Abbas! May Allah let me be sacrificed for you ! There is a man at Kufa who is a story-teller called Nauf; who claims that he (Al-Khadir’s companion) is not Moses of Bani Israel.” As for ‘Amr, he said to me, “Ibn ‘Abbas said, “(Nauf) the enemy of Allah told a lie.” But Ya’la said to me, “Ibn ‘Abbas said, Ubai bin Ka’b said, Allah’s Apostle said, ‘Once Moses, Allah’s Apostle, preached to the people till their eyes shed tears and their hearts became tender, whereupon he finished his sermon. Then a man came to Moses and asked, ‘O Allah’s Apostle! Is there anyone on the earth who is more learned than you?’ Moses replied, ‘No.’ So Allah admonished him (Moses), for he did not ascribe all knowledge to Allah. It was said, (on behalf of Allah), ‘Yes, (there is a slave of ours who knows more than you ).’ Moses said, ‘O my Lord! Where is he?’ Allah said, ‘At the junction of the two seas.’ Moses said, ‘O my Lord ! Tell I me of a sign whereby I will recognize the place.’ ” ‘Amr said to me, Allah said, “That place will be where the fish will leave you.” Ya’la said to me, “Allah said (to Moses), ‘Take a dead fish (and your goal will be) the place where it will become alive.’ ” So Moses took a fish and put it in a basket and said to his boy-servant “I don’t want to trouble you, except that you should inform me as soon as this fish leaves you.” He said (to Moses).” You have not demanded too much.” And that is as mentioned by Allah: ‘And (remember) when Moses said to his attendant …. ‘ (18.60) Yusha’ bin Nun. (Said did not state that). The Prophet said, “While the attendant was in the shade of the rock at a wet place, the fish slipped out (alive) while Moses was sleeping. His attend an said (to himself), “I will not wake him, but when he woke up, he forgot to tell him The fish slipped out and entered the sea. Allah stopped the flow of the sea. where the fish was, so that its trace looked as if it was made on a rock. ‘Amr forming a hole with his two thumbs an index fingers, said to me, “Like this, as in its trace was made on a rock.” Moses said “We have suffered much fatigue on this journey of ours.” (This was not narrate by Said). Then they returned back and found Al-Khadir. ‘Uthman bin Abi Sulaiman said to me, (they found him) on a green carpet in the middle of the sea. Al-Khadir was covered with his garment with one end under his feet and the other end under his head. When Moses greeted, he uncovered his face and said astonishingly, ‘Is there such a greeting in my land? Who are you?’ Moses said, ‘I am Moses.’ Al-Khadir said, ‘Are you the Moses of Bani Israel?’ Moses said, ‘Yes.’ Al-Khadir said, “What do you want?’ Moses said, ‘ I came to you so that you may teach me of the truth which you were taught.’ Al-Khadir said, ‘Is it not sufficient for you that the Torah is in your hands and the Divine Inspiration comes to you, O Moses? Verily, I have knowledge that you ought not learn, and you have a knowledge which I ought not learn.’ At that time a bird took with its beak (some water) from the sea: Al-Khadir then said, ‘By Allah, my knowledge and your knowledge besides Allah’s Knowledge is like what this bird has taken with its beak from the sea.’ Until, when they went on board the boat (18.71).
They found a small boat which used to carry the people from this sea-side to the other sea-side. The crew recognized Al-Khadir and said, ‘The pious slave of Allah.’ (We said to Said “Was that Khadir?” He said, “Yes.”) The boat men said, ‘We will not get him on board with fare.’ Al-Khadir scuttled the boat and then plugged the hole with a piece o wood. Moses said, ‘Have you scuttle it in order to drown these people surely, you have done a dreadful thing. (18.71) (Mujahid said. “Moses said so protestingly.”) Al-Khadir said, didn’t I say that you can have no patience with me?’ (18.72) The first inquiry of Moses was done because of forget fullness (**or not recalling as forgetfulness does not suit in respect for prophet), the second caused him to be bound with a stipulation, and the third was done he intentionally. Moses said, ‘Call me not to account for what I forgot and be not hard upon me for my affair (with you).’ (18.73)
(Then) they found a boy and Al-Khadir killed him. Ya’la- said: Said said ‘They found boys playing and Al-Khadir got hold of a handsome infidel boy laid him down and then slew him with knife. Moses said, ‘Have you killed a innocent soul who has killed nobody’ (18.74)
Then they proceeded and found a wall which was on the point of falling down, and Al-Khadir set it up straight Said moved his hand thus and said ‘Al-Khadir raised his hand and the wall became straight. Ya’la said, ‘I think Said said, ‘Al-Khadir touched the wall with his hand and it became straight (Moses said to Al-Khadir), ‘If you had wished, you could have taken wages for it. Said said, ‘Wages that we might had eaten.’
And there was a king in furor (ahead) of them” (18.79) And there was in front of them. Ibn ‘Abbas recited: ‘In front of them (was) a king.’ It is said on the authority of somebody other than Said that the king was Hudad bin Budad. They say that the boy was called Haisur. ‘A king who seized every ship by force. (18.79) So I wished that if that boat passed by him, he would leave it because of its defect and when they have passed they would repair it and get benefit from it. Some people said that they closed that hole with a bottle, and some said with tar.
‘His parents were believers, and he (the boy) was a non-believer and we(Khadir) feared lest he would oppress them by obstinate rebellion and disbelief.’ (18.80) (i.e. that their love for him would urge them to follow him in his religion, ‘so we (Khadir) desired that their Lord should change him for them for one better in righteousness and near to mercy’ (18:81). This was in reply to Moses’ saying: Have you killed an innocent soul.’? (18.74). ‘Near to mercy” means they will be more merciful to him than they were to the former whom Khadir had killed. Other than Sa’id, said that they were compensated with a girl. Dawud bin Abi ‘Asim said on the authority of more than one that this next child was a girl. [Sahi Bukhari Book Prophetic Commentary on the Quran 60, Hadith 250]
And it is not for any human being that Allah should speak to him except by revelation or from behind a partition or that He sends a messenger to reveal, by His permission, what He wills. Indeed, He is Most High and Wise. --- ASH SHURAA (42) VERSE 51
Narrated Umar ibn al-Khattab (RA):
reported the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) as saying: There are people from the servants of Allah who are neither prophets nor martyrs; the prophets and martyrs will envy them on the Day of Resurrection for their rank from Allah, the Most High.
They (the people) asked: Tell us, Apostle of Allah, who are they? He replied: They are people who love one another for the spirit of Allah (i.e. the Qur'an), without having any mutual kinship and giving property to one. I swear by Allah, their faces will glow and they will be (sitting) in (pulpits of) light. They will have no fear (on the Day) when the people will have fear, and they will not grieve when the people will grieve.
He then recited the following Qur'anic verse: "Behold! Verily for the friends of Allah there is no fear, nor shall they grieve." (Surah Yunus:62)
In reference to the Abdaals, Imam At-Tabarani (Radi Allahu ta'ala Anhu) quotes a Hadith Shareef in which the Beloved Prophet (Salla Allahu ta'alaAlayhi wa Sallam) declares, “There will always exist 40 persons on the Earth, each of whom is blessed like Hadrat Ebrahim (Alaihis Salaam). It rains because of their barakah. Allah appoints another when one of them dies.”
the Prophet said: ittaqu firasat al-mu’min fa innahu yara bi nurillah “Beware the vision of the believer, for he sees with the light of Allah,” then he recited the verse: “Therein lie portents for those who read the signs” (al-mutawassimin) (15:75) [Tirmidhi (gharib) from Abu Sa`id al-Khudri, and Tabarani from Abu Imama with a fair (hasan) chain according to al-Haythami in the chapter on firasa of Majma` al-zawa’id]
Have been hearing for the last 3 decades that India is about to attack any time!!!! Even they amassed the largest forces since WW2 with ammunition boxes opened. And, the USSR was in full presence with full force in Afganistan!!!! Again they tried in 2002 - this time with the USA in full presence with full force in Afganistan!!!! Forget about 2008, 2016 and all every other years!!! Still nothing happened because of Innalilalhi Ve Innailahi Rajeun!!!! As long as that holds what bad thing to expect???? Now, look at conditions vis-à-vis Pak now:Just ask mujahadeen and they will handle it.Indian weakness is always be it's long coast line.you know what I mean!xd India deserves more Mumbai like scenarios.we are sick are tired if their war hysteria.
The state currently has no cohesive leadership, the Army is running as an independent organization trying to keep its act(and not Pakistan's necessarily) together. The government or rather the personal fiefdom of Mian Bs is trying tk keep his power with utter disregard for the nation, the rest of the people too are trying to keep their backs intact and doing just enough to keep the system going. In such lack of coordination, there is no reason for India to not exploit weaknesses and stress the state with multiple issues to deal with beyond the already light year long list it has to deal with. All because early on in the 50's the mullah-feaudal-military nexus chose not to educate people and keep their power centers.
The firing is technically insignificant as India cannot do jack at the borders without pushing closer to a situation spiraling out kf control; but it causes confusion, costs and a breakdown of morale.
Pakistanis were coming off a high(based in reality or not) from CPEC and zarb.. and that is pretty much being torn apart.
Once that Morale dips low and world(read nations with military capacity to control world events) opinion is fully in favor of a corneded and dazed Pakistani state machine , then India can and will use more bold and direct military force to change geographical pangs it feels.
Bro ,I'm aware as I've read what you've posted before.Check out Muhammad Qasim in Youtube. He is next Awlia Allah who gets revelation from ALLAH straight, and there has been no indication to suggest he is fraud.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCybYujh4WdACDY8D_nj2oEg