US-India Alliance

[Zhukov]

Why would Western Manufacturers skip much Stable, less war prone and less likely to become a potential competitor countries like Vietnam, Thailand, Indonesia and even Bangladesh in favor of India?
I don't know how people come up with these replacement theories. China is China because of its Strong Efficient system, Business friendly environment and productive labor force. Not because of Population or something.
India needs a lot of Social, Economical, Bureaucratic and Infrastructural milestones to become a manufacturing hub and favored destination for world leading businesses. Get out of this ally enemy mentality.

 

[tower9]

Why would Western Manufacturers skip much Stable, less war prone and less likely to become a potential competitor countries like Vietnam, Thailand, Indonesia and even Bangladesh in favor of India?
I don't know how people come up with these replacement theories. China is China because of its Strong Efficient system, Business friendly environment and productive labor force. Not because of Population or something.
India needs a lot of Social, Economical, Bureaucratic and Infrastructural milestones to become a manufacturing hub and favored destination for world leading businesses. Get out of this ally enemy mentality.

what other market has one billion potential customers and workers?

 

[Nilgiri]

Worthless 0/-4 (in such iron brother forum as this) CPC troll will NEVER dig deeper into that clickbait IQ study....because it itself is a low intelligence cretin to not be able to.

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/a-co...aylor-on-race-in-america.477641/#post-9200325

 

[Zhukov]

what other market has one billion potential customers and workers?

Workers skilled enough to operate Testa, Apple, General Electric and IBM like Facilities?
Whats the per capita income of customers? what will Us industry produce and sale the the mass populace? Clothes and Shoes?
Whats the Infrastructure and Bureaucratic mess of the system in which these 1 billion reside?
Whats the state of supporting industry of the country?
My friend there are a lot of factors not just Population

 

[vi-va]

This is precisely why India is being touted right now by corporate America as a replacement for China. Because they feel confident India can't develop like China has. Also, India's political system is more porous and thus easier to manipulate. It would be easier to create chaos and conflict in Indian society in order to control their progress. India can be developed enough to be a reliable and cheap manufacturing hub as well as a compliant market of 1.4 billion people for Western goods, this is what corporate America had wanted China to be until it got too big.

Western power made mistake once, fool me once, shame on you.
Western power won't let it happen again, fool me twice, shame on me.

Western power thought China will be manipulated and controlled, they are regretting now. How confident western power are on India?

I met many Indians in person in US, they are as intelligent as Chinese. I watched India intellectuals on Youtube, those intellectuals are very aware of what kind of species western power are.

India will pretend to be rival of China if western power would like to redirect their resource to help India. But it won't happen.

Western power are in deep trouble ,the debt is rocket high. They would rather save their resource to over come coming financial crisis.

Globalization is reversing due to western countries internal political and economical tensions.

India missed the bus, India will develop, but in a slower pace. I am not anti India by saying this. I only speak out known facts, logical and my analysis.

 

[Broccoli]

India is more democratic nation so it's more natural partner for other democracies and their workforce is more younger while China is more like western countries in that perspective.

India has huge potential but is more or less badly managed country... automation is hitting on all workforces around the globe but at least India has still young population while China is hitting on it's peak soon.

Anyhow, i'd rather deal with Indians who'm know what free press is vs thin skinned Chinese people who think that criticizing government is racism etc.

 

[kankan326]

India is more democratic nation so it's more natural partner for other democracies and their workforce is more younger while China is more like western countries in that perspective.

India has huge potential but is more or less badly managed country... automation is hitting on all workforces around the globe but at least India has still young population while China is hitting on it's peak soon.

Anyhow, i'd rather deal with Indians who'm know what free press is vs thin skinned Chinese people who think that criticizing government is racism etc.

If you are a business man, you would find doing business with Indians is rather annoying. It's much easier to do business with Chinese.

 

[tower9]

If you are a business man, you would find doing business with Indians is rather annoying. It's much easier to do business with Chinese.

The few times I outsourced an online website building project to Indian developers, I was gaslighted and scammed. I found Turkish and Pakistani developers to be pretty reliable though.

 

[LeGenD]

It is clear that the US ruling class is planning to make India a major ally. India has many variables that makes it the perfect ally against China. Here they are.

1. It is historically hostile to China and shares a similar interest with the US in containing China.

2. It will soon have the world's biggest population. It is the perfect destination for corporate America to move its supply chains from China, depending on whether India will be able to replicate some of the required infrastructure. They do not have to accomplish what China has but needs to just develop the adequate infrastructure to maintain and sustain these supply chains.

3. India is far behind China technologically and socially. It poses no threat to US primacy. India will also not likely follow China's rapid ascent upwards therefore it poses no threat to the US geopolitically in our lifetime. If India can replace China as the factory of the world, it will likely not move up the value chain to a point where it threatens corporate America's dominance.

4. India's vast population is a great market for corporate America to expand into and to replace China's with when the inevitable Cold War sets in.

5. India has a far more porous, open and corrupt political system which makes it easier for the Anglo Jewish elite to infiltrate and control. It will also be easier to manipulate society and manufacture conflicts in order to maintain enough instability to keep India from rising too much.

6. India's tech world is completely dominated by Silicon Valley. India is fine with this. As long as enough Indian engineers work in Silicon Valley firms and enough CEO positions are filled by those of Indian origin, India is fine with Sillicon Valley maintaining a dominant position in their tech sphere. China was not and it became too much of a rival, that is why China is a dangerous threat. India is willing to be intertwined with Silicon Valley but importantly, the ones in power will still be the Anglo-Jewish elite that run the US, UK and most of the Western world.

Lastly, as for Pakistan, the US, particularly under Trump has signaled complete readiness to abandon this relationship for the sake of cultivating this alliance with India.

Thoughts?

This alliance sound convincing on paper but it will not blossom as per American wishes.

Modern India have many downsides but it is a huge country with political acumen and unlikely to serve as a vassal state to any foreign entity.

Frictions are already apparent in following revelations:

1) https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/31/business/trump-india-trade.html

2) https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2020/05/16/say-goodbye-to-indias-super-f-16/#5feaf2f63ca6

3) https://www.eastasiaforum.org/2020/04/20/india-is-not-the-indo-pacific-strategys-silver-bullet/

4) https://thediplomat.com/2020/01/senior-us-official-no-blanket-waiver-for-india-on-s-400-buy/

I do not rule out the possibility of US and India having constructive bilateral relations and being able to find common interests in the long-term, but India will never go out of its way to do American bidding, and I see the possibility of India striving for a working relationship with China as well (Chinese are likely to reciprocate). Indians do not place much trust in Americans, they are not stupid.

Pakistan also needs to play its cards right and strive for a more balanced foreign policy in the long-term. I hate to admit this but Pakistan should learn from India in this regard.

Future of the region (subcontinent in large part) lay in the hands of how Pakistan, India, and Bangladesh play their cards in the long-term.

 

[dbc]

This alliance sound convincing on paper but it will not blossom as per American wishes.

Modern India have many downsides but it is a huge country with political acumen and unlikely to serve as a vassal state to any foreign entity.

Frictions are already apparent in following revelations:

1) https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/31/business/trump-india-trade.html

2) https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2020/05/16/say-goodbye-to-indias-super-f-16/#5feaf2f63ca6

3) https://www.eastasiaforum.org/2020/04/20/india-is-not-the-indo-pacific-strategys-silver-bullet/

4) https://thediplomat.com/2020/01/senior-us-official-no-blanket-waiver-for-india-on-s-400-buy/

I do not rule out the possibility of US and India having constructive bilateral relations and being able to find common interests in the long-term, but India will never go out of its way to do American bidding, and I see the possibility of India striving for a working relationship with China as well (Chinese are likely to reciprocate). Indians do not place much trust in Americans, they are not stupid.

Pakistan also needs to play its cards right and strive for a more balanced foreign policy in the long-term. I hate to admit this but Pakistan should learn from India in this regard.

Future of the region (subcontinent in large part) lay in the hands of how Pakistan, India, and Bangladesh play their cards in the long-term.

Don't be so sure something big is cooking ...hearing persistent rumors.

 

[LeGenD]

Don't be so sure something big is cooking ...hearing persistent rumors.

Not long ago, US and China were largest trading partners. Look where each stand now.

US is not fond of dealing with new potential rivals from time-to-time.

Popcorn time for me.

 

[dbc]

Is it still on then..?

$500Bln bilateral trade.... in exchange for......

..cheaper weapons apparently, linked to the 74% lift in FDI CAP. I am skeptical since it goes against Trump's MAGA precept. I guess we shall find out in a few weeks.