US immigrants landscape, Mexicans all over, Pakistanis nowhere

[FairAndUnbiased]

Indians are the same way. They came in Quantity, many of them had fake degrees from their colleges. Someone who used to work with me shared that when we had his farewell. Apparently there are recruiters inside India with connections to schools like Purdue and stuff who's somehow take failing students and in numbers, and send them over to the US where they'll all of a sudden have a bright future.

Bottom line, even below average Indian and Chinese are hard working and once they get to the US, they find their way around and be successful. The myth about Indians are "smarter being" is bullshit, like every other race, I've seen many below average ones to say the lease.

that is precisely true. There's Indians that come into my department with hardly any knowledge of even rudimentary science. How the fk do they even get in here? Oh right a prof here graduated from IIT and used to work at TATA, almost as if he had some influence in recruitment.

 

[Foggy_Bottom]

Indians are the same way. They came in Quantity, many of them had fake degrees from their colleges. Someone who used to work with me shared that when we had his farewell. Apparently there are recruiters inside India with connections to schools like Purdue and stuff who's somehow take failing students and in numbers, and send them over to the US where they'll all of a sudden have a bright future.

Bottom line, even below average Indian and Chinese are hard working and once they get to the US, they find their way around and be successful. The myth about Indians are "smarter being" is bullshit, like every other race, I've seen many below average ones to say the lease.

I'd be happy to agree if you can prove any of it vs. your personal pakistani bias and wishful anecdotes.

Also please learn to be truthful and nice when representing our flag. They are doing much better than your pakistani community in every success measurement in the U.S. You should look up to them as thought leaders and as mentors.

 

[VCheng]

Hey - look.....if you have so many problems with the US.....how about move somewhere else and change the flags? In fact move to China as you're praising them so much. May be you can replace one of them "fate and lazy Americans" you referred to, who don't want to learn the Chinese?

What's wrong with people, they try to cut the hand that feeds them and their generations to come!

Bahahaha! Hey @gambit can you please tell this guy how "correct" I am? Apparently detecting the true meaning is not his strong suit, neither is seeing smilies.

 

[Foggy_Bottom]

Bahahaha! Hey @gambit can you please tell this guy how "correct" I am? Apparently detecting the true meaning is not his strong suit, neither is seeing smilies.

I know he did not get your sarcasm- I know your posting history, you are very much an all american lad. Frankly when you read his rants, you come away feeling the guy is one short of a full deck. Just look at his posting history.

 

[SQ8]

Pakistanis are nowhere because the Pakistanis coming here are lower middle class of their own country exploiting the ability to sponsor their entire useless families here. Indians on the other hand, have networks set up to have even their lesser qualified folks go through various certifications and get fake experience put on their resume. Then there are the much better educated Indians who also show up and are well qualified to contribute to the American economy.

So the question is, why the heck as a Pakistani would I even want Pakistanis who ran a motor mechanic shop back home come out here and run the same? They best they achieve later on is that their children end up with 7/11s and Petrol stations. These people are stuck in their isolation, happy maxxing out credit cards while they wait for their third and fourth cousin removed to be brought in on the sponsorship scheme.
By comparison, even the Indian who comes running a mechanic shop from India goes through these certification teaching processes and with fake experience is still managing a SQL server system in some small firm. He qualifies as a professional and not a motor mechanic.

As for the Mexicans, it is their land(along with Native Americans) essentially.. they are from it so it is their right to take back this country from actual "immigrants".

 

[Foggy_Bottom]

Pakistanis are nowhere because the Pakistanis coming here are lower middle class of their own country exploiting the ability to sponsor their entire useless families here. Indians on the other hand, have networks set up to have even their lesser qualified folks go through various certifications and get fake experience put on their resume. Then there are the much better educated Indians who also show up and are well qualified to contribute to the American economy.

So the question is, why the heck as a Pakistani would I even want Pakistanis who ran a motor mechanic shop back home come out here and run the same? They best they achieve later on is that their children end up with 7/11s and Petrol stations. These people are stuck in their isolation, happy maxxing out credit cards while they wait for their third and fourth cousin removed to be brought in on the sponsorship scheme.
By comparison, even the Indian who comes running a mechanic shop from India goes through these certification teaching processes and with fake experience is still managing a SQL server system in some small firm. He qualifies as a professional and not a motor mechanic.

As for the Mexicans, it is their land(along with Native Americans) essentially.. they are from it so it is their right to take back this country from actual "immigrants".

I'm afraid Pakistanis are nowhere as you claim mostly because of their conspiratorial minds, as seen in your first paragraph. This fake experience meme you bring up, albeit not surprising from a pakistani when speaking of indians, says something more to. And that is, our private institutions and companies are idiots. That somehow we don't know how to hire someone qualified. I have never know a motor mechanic to pass a SQL server certification, and fake his way into being hired. But on the other hand this trait of conspiratorial, victimhood mentality about Pakistanis is well known to us. " Hey, we struggle in America because nobody likes us, and they are good because they cheat, and have mafia that helps them get jobs"....

Pakistani American is also not interested in being a part of the fabric of America. They almost never vote or are interested in American political system, history or future. This way they remain isolated in the country. Btw 7/11 or gas station is small business, and well respected as small business. A 711 franchise costs almost 900,000 in initial investment.

The Pakistani-American dilemma: Guests or citizens? - Pakistan - DAWN.COM

 

[SQ8]

I'm afraid Pakistanis are nowhere as you claim mostly because of their conspiratorial minds, as seen in your first paragraph. This fake experience meme you bring up, albeit not surprising from a pakistani when speaking of indians, says something more to. And that is, our private institutions and companies are idiots. That somehow we don't know how to hire someone qualified. I have never know a motor mechanic to pass a SQL server certification, and fake his way into being hired. But on the other hand this trait of conspiratorial, victimhood mentality about Pakistanis is well known to us. " Hey, we struggle in America because nobody likes us, and they are good because they cheat, and have mafia that helps them get jobs"....

Pakistani American is also not interested in being a part of the fabric of America. They almost never vote or are interested in American political system, history or future. This way they remain isolated in the country. Btw 7/11 or gas station is small business, and well respected as small business. A 711 franchise costs almost 900,000 in initial investment.

The Pakistani-American dilemma: Guests or citizens? - Pakistan - DAWN.COM

Said the Indian man with the fake credentials. Your last paragraph I dont disagree with at all however, your first only reveals your false identity and as clearly as it is.. being an Indian you took what is actually common practice for many lesser qualified Indian immigrants to heart.

 

[Foggy_Bottom]

Said the Indian man with the fake credentials. Your last paragraph I dont disagree with at all however, your first only reveals your false identity and as clearly as it is.. being an Indian you took what is actually common practice for many lesser qualified Indian immigrants to heart.

...and again on cue you replied with a continuation of a conspiracy. How will you ever rise from the doldrums if you always think there is some conspiracy against you?

You have no clue how ridiculous it sounds when you say, in America, there is some conspiracy of allowing Indians to fake themselves into degree or certification. And that conspiratorial teamwork continues into private institutions, who themselves have joined in to help Indians to get highly technical jobs- based on fake experiences.

Just ponder how ridiculous that sounds

I replied to you because you are speaking of American institutions being part of some conspiracy. I could care less, in fact I expect these conspiratorial accusations around me from certain groups here.

 

[coffee_cup]

I'm afraid Pakistanis are nowhere as you claim mostly because of their conspiratorial minds, as seen in your first paragraph. This fake experience meme you bring up, albeit not surprising from a pakistani when speaking of indians, says something more to.

Just curious, have you learned a new word in your English vocabulary? "meme"?

In almost every post you are using it today.

I am all for learning and extending English vocabulary by using the newly learned word as must as possible.

 

[SQ8]

...and again on cue you replied with a continuation of a conspiracy. How will you ever rise from the doldrums if you always think there is some conspiracy against you?

You have no clue how ridiculous it sounds to say, in America, there is some conspiracy of allowing Indians to fake themselves into degree or certification, and to continue that conspiratorial teamwork into private institutions, who have joined in to help Indians get highly technical jobs based on fake experiences.

Just ponder how ridiculous that sounds

I replied to you because you are speaking of American institutions being part of some conspiracy. I could care less, in fact I expect these conspiratorial accusations around me from certain groups here.

Please, give that sanctimonious lecture elsewhere. That supposed conspiracy is known as a business, because pay for it. What shows truer ridiculousness or rather pointless need to deride anything coming from a Pakistanis flag in your case is to suggest that it refers to every other Indian who has truly made it here. To top it off your screwed up head then goes around to somehow extend it to American institutions.


lets leave that attitude of yours against Pakistanis to your usual pithy rants and avoid brining it up with respect to me.

 

[Foggy_Bottom]

Please, give that sanctimonious lecture elsewhere. That supposed conspiracy is known as a business, because pay for it. What shows truer ridiculousness or rather pointless need to deride anything coming from a Pakistanis flag in your case is to suggest that it refers to every other Indian who has truly made it here. To top it off your screwed up head then goes around to somehow extend it to American institutions.


lets leave that attitude of yours against Pakistanis to your usual pithy rants and avoid brining it up with respect to me.

Wait a minute. I fail to see how it is sanctimonious to call it typical conspiratorial talk. I presume you don't have some study, some american institutional research as proof of your assertions?

And why do you feel I deride anything from a pakistani flag. I merely debate on case by case basis, and if the cases of conspiracies against us is prevalent among pakistanis, or chinese or Indians, anyone else. They would get the identical reply from me.

Why do you brush an entire group with an accusation,.and then cry foul when I say your group has a tendency to be overtly conspiratorial- a documented fact I may add?

 

[Viper0011.]

I'd be happy to agree if you can prove any of it vs. your personal pakistani bias and wishful anecdotes.

Also please learn to be truthful and nice when representing our flag. They are doing much better than your pakistani community in every success measurement in the U.S. You should look up to them as thought leaders and as mentors.

LOL, I will give my blood for my flags. These are not your flags as you aren't representing the US here. You represent India and that's pretty much it. Don't fukking bring up the American flag with regards to Indian political agenda in your nonsense and stupid posts. You are abusing the American flag to do propaganda for India and that shouldn't be allowed.

Representing flags and putting the truth out about Indian labor have nothing to do with each other. These stupid statements make your posts feel worthless as it feels like you never graduated high school or had any experience with the "state dept", unless you were installing Windows on their desktops, in which case, your intellect (or lack of it) matches up with that work. There are many below average Indians like the rest of the world that I have met, worked with and they have worked for me.

And you are also one of the below average Indians I am referring to, its a fact. That's a true statement and if you'd like to go to the Supreme Court of the US, I'd personally present my case to the Justice assigned. I don't think you have the credentials or the capability to write up a decent post, let alone, present a case in any court! Enough said !! Of course, the US is the land of opportunity and if you are graduating from a US school, whether you lied to get into it, or your Indian education isn't valid, you still have a shot at the future.

 

[Viper0011.]

I know he did not get your sarcasm- I know your posting history, you are very much an all american lad. Frankly when you read his rants, you come away feeling the guy is one short of a full deck. Just look at his posting history.

And look at your posting history Mr. Indian Propagandist under the false American flag. You use the terms "we are noticing" as if you are referring to the US government when you have no relationship or official status, and your old azz is retired. Your intellect in your posts is similar to that of a 12 year old child growing up, having hormonal imbalances.

I may have missed the gentleman's sarcasm above; but I am sure I've never missed total stupidity and irrational crap from your posts. You can count on seeing me all over your silly, irrational and India centric posts.

 

[MastanKhan]

I'm afraid that is not true. If they belong to rich families back home, they open a business, mostly a restaurant- and only after they pay us $500k for a greencard.

Sir,

You bring anew meaning to the term ROTATING DOOR .

Look at your affinity to Pakistan----you are so addicted to it that you cannot leave it now----.

 

[Viper0011.]

You have no clue how ridiculous it sounds when you say, in America, there is some conspiracy of allowing Indians to fake themselves into degree or certification. And that conspiratorial teamwork continues into private institutions, who themselves have joined in to help Indians to get highly technical jobs- based on fake experiences..

There is no conspiracy in it. I personally have been told by a couple of Indians after they left work that they were on a visit visa and they actually worked in the US and their employers (also Indian companies) brought them here and made them work and paid them in India. This is apparently a COMMON practice (while VERY illegal) now a days.

There is a vast Indian network at play who abuses H1B visas, different Visa statuses and makes all kinds of fake crap. There is no myth in there. I had multiple Indian recruiters we hired, lie to me by telling me there was NO American who applied for certain jobs and thus, all resumes were of Indians.

After an internal investigation, the truth came out, they ONLY promote Indian people and suppress everyone else's resumes for pretty much all kinds of jobs. American executives don't have the time to sit inside a recruiter's office and question him, as executives are busy. So they take what they get, thinking proper legal process of finding American talent was followed. When its not as many recruiters are Indians. There are many companies who are starting to take steps to avoid this but a LOT of damage has already happen and wrong people were put into roles when American labor was available. Something our government needs to pay serious attention to.

You KNOW all this but playing stupid. Here, check out some reality. It is A LOT worse than what hits the media (thanks to the Indian lobby big paying $$$$):

Indian corporation pays record $34 million fine to settle allegations of systemic visa fraud and abuse of immigration processes | ICE

Two People Arrested In H-1B Visa Fraud – H1B wiki

Visa fraud in US tech industry relies on falsified job letters | Reveal

H-1B Guest Worker Fraud and the "Lacking Skills" Scam