US forces will continue to go after threats on Pakistani soil: Obama

[Arsalan]

And what do you propose to do? Do a superman special and knock all the drones out. Wait won't that lead to war with USA? No worries. Come on USA, Come on India, Come Isreal. We are going to thump you all.

Obama has stated his challange clearly. That US will strike where it needs to in Pakistan. Now the ball is in Pakistan's court. Do we prepare for war? And do we say " dare try it again".
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Thinking like a Pakistani politician the only two options seem to be either prepare for war or just sit there arms folded and do nothing about this. Make the nation a laughing stock. Unfortunately for us these are the only two extremes to chose from as we never have heard about diplomacy. As we have no one competent enough in our parliament to device a foreign policy that can take us through this mess with minimal embarrassment and maximum gain. We suck at diplomacy that is why we never are able to find that moderate way to handle such situations. It is either war or just criminal negligence from which to chose.

 

[firestorm77]

And what do you propose to do? Do a superman special and knock all the drones out. Wait won't that lead to war with USA? No worries. Come on USA, Come on India, Come Isreal. We are going to thump you all.

Obama has stated his challange clearly. That US will strike where it needs to in Pakistan. Now the ball is in Pakistan's court. Do we prepare for war? And do we say " dare try it again".

Iran has knocked out US drones before & even had arrested US marines, but I don't expect much from our emasculated & castrated military and political leadership.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Also, wonder what ISPR / Gen Raheel has to say about tht... DG ispr keeps tweeting on all issues..but nothing since yesterday on drone strike...

Easy for you to say that. I don't envy his position right now. What is he supposed to tweet? Oh the American's invaded our airspace and killed somebody in our sovereign territory. This is act of war against Pakistan. There after consultation with Chief of Staff and the PM Pakistan is now in state of war with USA. Could all civilians please hide in basements as we are going to bombed back to the stone age. Can all men between ages of 18-40 sign up for military service as we expect India might also attack us. Thank you.

 

[barbarosa]

Respected Members! who keep the chip in the vehicle of the taliban leader? = Pakistan
who attacked by drone? = USA.
What is result? = F16.

 

[Dalit]

And what do you propose to do? Do a superman special and knock all the drones out. Wait won't that lead to war with USA? No worries. Come on USA, Come on India, Come Isreal. We are going to thump you all.

Obama has stated his challange clearly. That US will strike where it needs to in Pakistan. Now the ball is in Pakistan's court. Do we prepare for war? And do we say " dare try it again".

Taking those drone out is as easy as squatting flies. The problem is what happens after. That would amount to declaring war on USA. So the question is not can we knock the drones out because that is easy. The real question is does Pakistan want a war with USA over the drones?

That is something Pakistan has to decide. So far the pointers suggest Pakistan does not want war with USA over the drones.

I've been hearing this since I opened my eyes. So much has happened meanwhile. So many innocent lives lost. The Americans keep attacking Pakistan and we keep hearing whether we want a war. What we want is a halt to drone strikes. Nothing more nothing less. If the drone strike in Balochistan out of all other places doesn't worry you than there is nothing much left to talk. You might as well hand the country and its sovereignty to the Americans on a silver platter. Let them run the affairs of Pakistan. We don't need Raheel Sharif and Nawaz Sharif.

The Americans keep violating, according to the admission of your own PM, the sovereignty of the nation.

If this drone strike is something to be celebrated you need to tell the PM to stop repeating the mantra of sovereignty violation. The security apparatus need to come forth and speak the truth whether they endorse such strikes. If not, your fear of war is misplaced.

 

[fenku]

Jo khilata hai wo sunata bhi hai....

 

[haviZsultan]

Easy for you to say that. I don't envy his position right now. What is he supposed to tweet? Oh the American's invaded our airspace and killed somebody in our sovereign territory. This is act of war against Pakistan. There after consultation with Chief of Staff and the PM Pakistan is now in state of war with USA. Could all civilians please hide in basements as we are going to bombed back to the stone age. Can all men between ages of 18-40 sign up for military service as we expect India might also attack us. Thank you.

Fear of being attacked should not be the core relationship between partners in the war on terror. What you have said is true but an unfortunate factor in ties with the US. We are being bullied and no country ever likes to be bullied or arm-wrangled into submission.

America is not God and one day it is my hope that it will crumble. Said country has constantly bullied us. What we could do is raise our price and demand better payment for fighting the war. We need to leverage our position and argue for our views strongly.

 

[ganesh623]

And what do you propose to do? Do a superman special and knock all the drones out. Wait won't that lead to war with USA? No worries. Come on USA, Come on India, Come Isreal. We are going to thump you all.

Obama has stated his challange clearly. That US will strike where it needs to in Pakistan. Now the ball is in Pakistan's court. Do we prepare for war? And do we say " dare try it again".

Taking those drone out is as easy as squatting flies. The problem is what happens after. That would amount to declaring war on USA. So the question is not can we knock the drones out because that is easy. The real question is does Pakistan want a war with USA over the drones?

That is something Pakistan has to decide. So far the pointers suggest Pakistan does not want war with USA over the drones.

How is taking down a drone in pakistan equal to waging war on USA ?
You will be taking it down in your territory, not in USA , or not even in international territory.

Turkey took down russian fighter jet in turkey, we did not see turkey russia war after.

 

[Dalit]

How is taking down a drone in pakistan equal to waging war on USA ?
You will be taking it down in your territory, not in USA , or not even in international territory.

Turkey took down russian fighter jet in turkey, we did not see turkey russia war after.

You know what this tells us? That either they are doing a bad job of lying to the people and are just hand and glove with the Americans or just plain incompetent. There is no other possibility. I'm not buying how an American drone can just enter Balochistan and carry out a drone strike without the concerned authorities even knowing.

 

[guest11]

Why is ISPR not commenting? I could be wrong but if someone infringes on Pakistan's air space shouldn't it be military, specifically PAF responsibility to act on it.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Iran

Here have a look at where they get their "roti" from. Iran exports below.

$95 billion.

Pakistan exports.

$29 billion.

Despite Iran being three times smaller their exports even with sanctions is whopping $95 billion compared to our puny $29 billion. In adition our biggest export market is USA and Europe. Meaning if they stopped buying from us we would go bust by next weekend. So get a grip of reality. Iran has oil. Oil.

Main export partners of Pakistan. Look whose at top.

United States 13.3%

China 10.9%

United Arab Emirates 8.6%

Afghanistan 8.5%

Germany 5.1%[9]

 

[Dalit]

Here have a look at where they get their "roti" from. Iran exports below.

$95 billion.

Pakistan exports.

$29 billion.

Despite Iran being three times smaller their exports even with sanctions is whopping $95 billion compared to our puny $29 billion. In adition our biggest export market is USA and Europe. Meaning if they stopped buying from us we would go bust by next weekend. So get a grip of reality. Iran has oil. Oil.

Main export partners of Pakistan. Look whose at top.

United States 13.3%

China 10.9%

United Arab Emirates 8.6%

Afghanistan 8.5%

Germany 5.1%[9]

The concerned authorities need to play open card with the people of Pakistan because everyone is sick and tired of our Prime Ministers hypocritical condemnations. He is already embroiled in so many controversies. The people need to be honestly told whether the government and establishment support American drone strikes on our soil or not. This debate ends here and now.

If they don't support the drone strikes they need to take a bold stance because condemnations won't cut it anymore. I don't care how Iran earns its revenue. It is a matter of principle. We need to take a firm stand and we need to do it transparently. Not the usual halfhearted condemnation which means nothing. It puts Pakistan in a terribly bad position because the world isn't crazy and won't buy a halfhearted condemnation. Pakistan could at least protest by closing down mega US embassy in Pakistan. There are so many political gestures which can be made to send a message.

 

[firestorm77]

Here have a look at where they get their "roti" from. Iran exports below.

$95 billion.

Pakistan exports.

$29 billion.

Despite Iran being three times smaller their exports even with sanctions is whopping $95 billion compared to our puny $29 billion. In adition our biggest export market is USA and Europe. Meaning if they stopped buying from us we would go bust by next weekend. So get a grip of reality. Iran has oil. Oil.

Main export partners of Pakistan. Look whose at top.

United States 13.3%

China 10.9%

United Arab Emirates 8.6%

Afghanistan 8.5%

Germany 5.1%[9]

If they put sanctions on us then we should simply sell nuclear & missile technology in the black market. In any case we should form a trade union with the middle east. Acting like a coward will not solve anything.

 

[Dalit]

Exactly, those Drones are not Supersonic, that they could not be distroyed by JF-17 Block 1,2, and why not bring some CH-5 from China and deploy against the US base from those drones are operating in Afghanistan. Take couple of dozen Buraq with Burq missile with them, and the American would be running to Washington

Stop acting like a juvenile. No one is proposing to shoot American killer drones. Those are your own words. We don't have the balls like Iran who took down the American drone. We are indeed an afraid nation. Perhaps we lack the moral character, but what else is there left to say when a nation is lead by a Panama hyena like Nawaz Sharif.

Besides, there is much more than just shooting down drones to address this problem. It is a matter of principle. The Pakistani state looks weak and pathetic when a foreign power is firing missiles from its soil without its permission. Yet, the state continues to condemn the strikes without doing anything concrete about it. It cannot even present its narrative. A short condemnation is all we hear after every drone strike. Something doesn't add up and anyone can do the math.

 

[Dalit]

Bhaijan, no need to have the balls to destroy those drones, but need comitment to safegaurd your citizen from the voilation of the airspace, and unauthorized attack on the people of Pakistan.

Just Answer

1. Is Pakistan an Independant country or a colony of USA.

2. You Claim, that China is behind you, and have whole Arab alliance, which being Muslims will support you.

3. You are only shooting those unauthorized birds which are flying in the Pakistani Airspace, not mounting an attack on USA.

That's what I'm saying. These people who condemn drone strikes don't have any commitment towards its people. They condemn drone strikes, but tacitly approve them. This is not a secret anymore. In exchange for drone strikes they are offered blood aid. Now our PM is shedding crocodile tears and condemning the drone strike, but we'll wait for the truth to prevail. The truth always prevails.

One thing I've learnt over the years. Never trust the American and Pakistani leadership.