US committed to a permanent seat for India in a reformed UN Security Council

[Capt.Popeye]

imo India doesn't need a seat in UNSC... we have other issues to sort out....

Not just that... The old structure of the UN with 'haves' and 'have-nots' has to change. Else it will be steadily get side-lined just as the League of Nations got junked.
The UN is not a 'super-body' that it was touted to be. Progressively, more countries are "showing it the finger". Only reformation can get it back on track.

That process is already underway, and members of the GA are working on that.

 

[Luca1]

you are just jealous of our potential.. without us UNSC won't continue to be an effective council and become irrelevant over time

Really... UNSC is doing fine without India. If UNSC can't live without India, than India would be in UNSC by now.

Republic of India deserves Permanent UNSC seat.

That is subjective. Other might believe Brazil or Zimbabwe deserve a permanent seat ad well. But the truth is that no one is getting a UNSC seat with veto power.

 

[mb444]

Extending veto powers to any country is a non stater..... All the veto holders would simultaneously veto any such move..... It would need another catastrophic event and death of the UN just like the previous League of Nations for the inevitable much required realignment

 

[HinduRashtra]

Really... UNSC is doing fine without India. If UNSC can't live without India, than India would be in UNSC by now.

UNSC is doing what without india? its ineffective and will become irrelevant over time

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

imo India doesn't need a seat in UNSC... we have other issues to sort out....

India, if it can get over the need to assuage her ego with a Permanent UNSC seat+VETO, can play a very constructive role in substantive UNSC reform that starts the process of making it a more representative and effective world body.

Demanding veto rights is not the way - working with groups like 'United for Consensus' and helping refine their proposals and gathering additional member support for them is.

UNSC is doing what without india? its ineffective and will become irrelevant over time

Please, explain to us what specifically India will 'help the UN do' if it received permanent UNSC membership with the Veto tomorrow?

What specifically will happen to the UN if India leaves the UN tomorrow?

 

[Magi Brahmin]

just slide with USA until 2030s-40s. first become a economic giant and provide better life to indian citizens, provide made in india weapons to military, develop at last Western and southern parts of india like China developed coastal area, get world class infrastructure and finally abolish poverty than ask for UNSC seat.

 

[Luca1]

UNSC is doing what without india? its ineffective and will become irrelevant over time

India is irrelevant in UN. It still need time to grow up.

 

[Manindra]

To be honest, there are dozens of countries out there i can think of who deserve it as well. If only UNSC P5 seat was determined by 'deserving 'countries.



Oh my bad. You said after 15years(not sure why you choosed that number though.lol, at least you are not as delusional as some of your indian brothers who think they are already way ahead of britain abd france. Lol).

However, you remember our 'experts/analysts and media' were all predicting as well that India will be a superpower by this time/end of this decade and will overtake China and all european powers by now. Lol. But here we are today, you are still behind us despite having over 17 times our population and growing.

So if i was the one, i will calm dowm and just bide my time until when im ahead before i start boasting/bragging. You are still nowhere near Britain and France in world influence/tech/industrial advancement etc you name it.
In short NEVER count your eggs before they hatch.

I am not delusional as you himself admit but my word have a reason to do.
Even we progress with moderate 5% a year despite we would outpace you easily due to policy of British politicians after Margrett Thacher.
Despite being first industrial super power todays British selk their all crown brands to foreigners.
Only thing you left with Rolce Royce ( best aero engine manufacturer in the world ) and BAE (most of their technology controled by US laws).
Even little Sweden develop their own fighter (with your supplied parts) solo but you need whole EU to develop it.
In foreign policy you politicians make Britain a piggyback of USA ( your own former arch rival France have independent foreign policy)

Now tell me with these factor till how long you sustain your influence in the world.

 

[Hindustani78]

This has nothing to do with my statement, I quoted 2012 statement from a great visionary man

India has become very advanced in space technology, he said, adding the country would become a superpower by 2012.

"Though I have envisioned India to become a superpower by 2020, the attitude and the confidence of the youth, to conquer everything in the right spirit, would make the country a global leader and super power within five years," Kalam told reporters.

India is irrelevant in UN. It still need time to grow up.

Republic of India is the only country which is having everything to be Permanent member of UNSC.

Really... UNSC is doing fine without India. If UNSC can't live without India, than India would be in UNSC by now.

UNSC do know that India is the only country which is having the capacity and capabilities to maintain world peace not only militarily but even economically and financially.

That is subjective. Other might believe Brazil or Zimbabwe deserve a permanent seat ad well. But the truth is that no one is getting a UNSC seat with veto power.

 

[Economic superpower]

African countries, Arab countries, Latin American countries, Asian Countries, Central Asian Republics and enough EU members states supports Permanent seat for India.

But the countries that matter don't support it

Try harder

 

[RazorMC]

Not just that... The old structure of the UN with 'haves' and 'have-nots' has to change. Else it will be steadily get side-lined just as the League of Nations got junked.
The UN is not a 'super-body' that it was touted to be. Progressively, more countries are "showing it the finger". Only reformation can get it back on track.

That process is already underway, and members of the GA are working on that.

This is what the UN was about: maintaining the dominance of WWII victors.

Anyone outside the UNSC getting nuclear weapons? Sanctions
Anyone outside the UNSC waging wars? Sanctions
Anyone outside the UNSC comitting genocide? Sanctions

I agree completely with the underlined part, the UN has become increasingly ineffective over the last few decades. The US itself has shown utter comtempt for it when it decides to take unilateral action against countries.

India, representing a billion people, should have been part of a global body, but the current power structure in UNSC will never allow it.

 

[mike2000 is back]

I am not delusional as you himself admit but my word have a reason to do.
Even we progress with moderate 5% a year despite we would outpace you easily due to policy of British politicians after Margrett Thacher.
Despite being first industrial super power todays British selk their all crown brands to foreigners.
Only thing you left with Rolce Royce ( best aero engine manufacturer in the world ) and BAE (most of their technology controled by US laws).
Even little Sweden develop their own fighter (with your supplied parts) solo but you need whole EU to develop it.
In foreign policy you politicians make Britain a piggyback of USA ( your own former arch rival France have independent foreign policy)

Now tell me with these factor till how long you sustain your influence in the world.

The simple fact that you still have our language as your national language(the worlds global language anyway), you are still under our common wealth organization(ever wondered why the U.S isnt part of it?lol), you are still begging to join our P5 INVANE and you still need our help to build a simply trainer jet alone shows that we still have far more influence than you can ever have(even your 15years from now). I wont even go into other details where you are nowhere close to us.

So dont worry about us, worry about your own country.

 

[Armstrong]

The simple fact that you still have our language as your national language(the worlds global language anyway), you are still under our common wealth organization(ever wondered why the U.S isnt part of it?lol), you are still begging to join our P5 INVANE and you still need our help to build a simply trainer jet alone shows that we still have far more influence than you can ever have(even your 15years from now). I wont even go into other details where you are nowhere close to us.

So dont worry about us, worry about your own country.

Your language ?

I thought you were Scottish !

Or was that Mrs.Mike whos Scottish ?

 

[mike2000 is back]

Listen to me. France stopped being a 'major' power before the 20th century. You really believe, in all honesty, that France came out a 'winner' after ww2? Neither does the rest of the world. So why do you think you deserve a UNSC seat? India deserves it 10x more TODAY, and about 200 times more in a decade or two. I can name another 5-6 nations that deserve a seat more than France or the UK. The world has changed. France is about as relevant as a medium sized Chinese province. The West deserves 2 seats at most, US and EU. Simple as that. Russia doesn't even deserve an entire seat. India does, so does China. A major African power too in the coming decades, and finally a Latin American power. This isn't the 1800s anymore mon ami!

India deserves a seat more than even Russia? Do you know that without Russia India wouldnt have a military to begin with/its military will come to a complete halt without Russia?
You really lost it my Iranian/turkish buddy.

Your language ?

I thought you were Scottish !

Or was that Mrs.Mike whos Scottish ?

Lool doesnt matter, we are all british/under the U.K .

 

[Manindra]

The simple fact that you still have our language as your national language(the worlds global language anyway),

you are still under our common wealth organization(ever wondered why the U.S isnt part of it?lol)

Its British who beg to retain in commonwealth even not suspended in extreme sanction period (our neighbor Pakistan suspended multiple time, wonder why

you are still begging to join our P5

D:
We would join it either by addition or by replacement. :

INVANE and you still need our help to build a simply trainer jet alone shows that we still have far more influence than you can ever have(even your 15years from now).

We can but you make superior but by current trend you need 4 nation to build jet trainer in coming 15 years. :

I wont even go into other details where you are nowhere close to us.

We don't interfere in International level yet the day we start interfering that would be problem for you.
Even a small country Jordan have more limelight in International media compare to us.

So dont worry about us, worry about your own country.

Nobody is worry about anyone as except himself.