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US committed to a permanent seat for India in a reformed UN Security Council

It really isn't about what India thinks, but what every single one of the current P5 thinks, and whether the world believes that the addition of yet more veto powers (instead of removing or diluting the existing ones) is progress.

India's demand for a veto in the UNSC is regressive and damaging for the United Nations, and further widens the international caste system and global inequalities.

India is on the wrong side of history on this issue. While plenty of nations would support a permanent Indian UNSC seat today, adding a veto into the mix helps no one and does nothing except massage India's ego.

Come on , Its already visible that P5 members do support India's UNSC bid .

India is on the right track thats why its being supported by majority of countries in UN general assembly for the Permanent seat.
 
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Do they all support veto powers for India and is there a consensus in the General Assembly on adding more veto wielding nations to the UNSC as permanent members?

Support of Permanent member seat means UNSC member with full powers.

Its other thing that certain powers play with words.
 
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:hitwall::hitwall: what's the use of getting seat without veto , we might as well say no
 
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For a reformed UNSC, we need WW3. But in that case Burundi, Rawanda, Congo, Fiji and some other country will be Permanent Members!!
 
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Its not just India, actually 2 countries got independence through same method at the same time..the other country you wont dare to use the same choice of words, because that requires some serious guts .....

I dare you....

And who is begging for a UNSC council seat?

Kid you'll always live under a boss, then US now Chinese

I'm living in the U.S.? And you?
 
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Support of Permanent member seat means UNSC member with full powers.
Then why isn't it being stated outright, by The P5 and UNGA, that Indian (and any other country) Permanent UNSC membership will include veto powers?
Its other thing that certain powers play with words.
Why would they "play with words' on the subject of new permanent members getting veto powers? Is the addition of more vetoes in the UNSC such a horrible and regressive step for the United Nations that the world powers don't even want to mention it? What does that say about the actual chances of new permanent UNSC members actually getting the veto then, if it's something no one even wants to talk about right now?

The P5 are under no obligation to India, and I have yet to see any Indian or Indian apologist make a rational case highlighting the advantages (to the global community that is, not to India's petty ego and inferiority complex) of India becoming a veto wielding member of the UNSC.

What tangible benefits to the P5 and global community does India bring to table by having a veto?
 
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China+Russia+America have already made it plain that they are firmly opposed to any change in veto powers.

That's what they say openly.

In practice though, they are even shutting down any "discussion" on UNSC reform.

As for Germany, they are already a part of the P5+1.



Well then ask again in 15 years.
India will be super power in 2012 president Abdul kalam ( late)
 
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what is your contribution in world peace by the way ? LOL 1,80,000 troops in Africa not world lol ... You never ever participate in any global conflicts pr issues... just batain batain batain... nothing else more...

India has no power on ground in terms of military power projection and the solo powers knew that India will never ever participate with them in any conflict because of fear of backfire.

These solo powers like Russia, USA and China which include France and UK are completely independent in military and military hardware. On the other side India is highly DEPENDENT on foreign military hardware. India is biggest arm importer. Accept the reality no one is interested in power sharing or offering Veto power tu duur ke baat hey even UNSC permanent seat (without veto).... unke aankh say dekhoo jinhonay agaay lagaya huwa hey.. they're just getting $$ from you and thats all... US knew that keep pushing India in their circle while passing such statements. In real US is also not interested too...
Sorry to say that but you talk like illiterate :agree:

India will be super power in 2012 president Abdul kalam ( late)
But Pakistan is a martial race:D:D:D

I'm an American. I'm definitely not Pakistani or Chinese.
We are brothers :partay::partay::partay::partay::partay:
 
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Permanent UNSC member, but without veto powers.

This is what the US and China are open to (as noted in official statements). It would be too-optimistic to think that the Big-5 would want another country sharing the veto power further.

you are just jealous of our potential.. without us UNSC won't continue to be an effective council and become irrelevant over time
 
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