US clears sale of Integrated Air defence weapons to India with AMRAAM C8/AIM-120D missile

[Pakistani Fighter]

Also in the next round, Pakistan will not rush for a ceasefire. It will let things get hot and respond harder than Feb 27. This is not only expected but also necessary for Pakistan to ensure that India too feels the pain. If the escalatory rungs are traversed, then the same world powers that are sitting idly by will have to do something. Many of these powers think that by giving India the latitude to operate against Pakistan, they can change Pakistan's policy/behavior with regards to Kashmir, but this is a fallacy. There are other reasons as well for Pakistan to let things get hot and respond very aggressively.

Disagree. When u have Niazi and Bajwa, Dont expect a harsh response from Pakistan. We didn't do anything after 5 August but on the other hand sent our ppl like Hafiz Saeed and Masood Azhar to jail

 

[Robin rone]

Disagree. When u have Niazi and Bajwa, Dont expect a harsh response from Pakistan. We didn't do anything after 5 August but on the other hand sent our ppl like Hafiz Saeed and Masood Azhar to jail

Its all part of plan , first Pakistan have to come out of its economical bad shape for that Pakistan have to get pit of gray list to get future IMF founding, for that sending Hafiz to jail is need, in in pak only have China's backing all other major power got buy out, any way until 2022 I don't see India doing any aggressive thrust or provoking Rather than CFV and Twitter battles, so it's much needed time for Pakistan to revamp its military organisation, starting from PAF,

 

[Tanveer666]

And the worshipping begins. Just wait, 10 years down the line, India would be calling the AIMs as duds just like they called R-77.

On topic.
Which ground system will exactly launch AMRAAMs?

When/why did they r77 duds?

 

[Taimoor Khan]

Holy cr@p.
This is a total game changer, AIM-120C8 is just another name for AIM-120D


It's will be from ground based system.
Although missile is identical to air launched ones.

I remember Pakistanis on this forum saying Pakistan should get AIM-120D for Afghan peace deal but India gets it instead.

@Bilal Khan (Quwa) @Tipu7 @Signalian @Gryphon

So what made Indian go for Amraam? Abhi non done debriefings or the Amraam remains that India found in the wreckage of SU30 that Indian officials were waving to media? Seem Indians are very impress with its performance.

 

[SIPRA]

So what made Indian go for Amraam? Abhi non done debriefings or the Amraam remains that India found in the wreckage of SU30 that Indian officials were waving to media? Seem Indians are very impress with its performance.

A part of the proceeds, received by US from India, on sale of AMRAAM, should be paid to Pakistan, as marketing commissions.

 

[Taimoor Khan]

A part of the proceeds, received by US from India, on sale of AMRAAM, should be paid to Pakistan, as marketing commissions.

Absolutely we should get our "marketing cut" from this deal.

 

[HRK]

Also in the next round, Pakistan will not rush for a ceasefire. It will let things get hot and respond harder than Feb 27. This is not only expected but also necessary for Pakistan to ensure that India too feels the pain.

This purchase is exactly related to this type of situation we need to understand the release/authorisation of this system is actually addressing the very specific need of Indian Defence of countering our cruise missiles, it will blunt our counterattack capabilities against India by specifically enhancing their operational capabilities in this particular domain.

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Just look at the target sets it make things very obvious, I mean we are obviously not going to attack Indian capital with Helicopters or UCAVs ....

We may see no change in our National Stance on Kashmir but these purchase are certainly increasing the cost of war for us.

 

[Darth Vader]

Integration of all these system into network so all platforms can work as one and units individually can access full information no matter the original will one hell of job.
But its a big but with so many multi origin systems working as one gives more easy access to breachers if Pakistan or Specially china is able to breach through it will go bad and really fast.
Other issue is IFF will cause issue because of the platforms india has.
US , french , Israeli, Russian , Indian

 

[Bratva]

The State Department has made a determination approving a possible Foreign Military Sale to India of an Integrated Air Defense Weapon System (IADWS) for an estimated cost of $1.867 billion. The Defense Security Cooperation Agency delivered the required certification notifying Congress of this possible sale on February 7, 2020.

The Government of India has requested to buy an Integrated Air Defense Weapon System (IADWS) comprised of: five (5) AN/MPQ-64Fl Sentinel radar systems; one hundred eighteen (118) AMRAAM AIM-120C-7/C-8 missiles; three (3) AMRAAM Guidance Sections; four (4) AMRAAM Control Sections; and one hundred thirty-four (134) Stinger FIM-92L missiles. Also included are thirty-two (32) M4A1 rifles; forty thousand three hundred twenty (40,320) M855 5.56mm cartridges; Fire Distribution Centers (FDC); Handheld Remote Terminals; Electrical Optical/Infrared (EO/IR) Sensor Systems; AMRAAM Non-Developmental Item-Airborne Instrumentation Units (NDIAIU); Multi-spectral Targeting System-Model A (MTS-A); Canister Launchers (CN); High Mobility Launchers (HML); Dual Mount Stinger (DMS) Air Defense Systems; Vehicle Mounted Stinger Rapid Ranger Air Defense Systems; communications equipment; tool kits; test equipment; range and test programs; support equipment; prime movers; generators; technical documentation; computer based training equipment; training equipment; training towers; ammunition storage; training and maintenance facilities; infrastructure improvements; U.S. Government and contractor technical support, engineering and logistics support services; warranty services; Systems and Integration Checkout (SICO); field office support; and other related elements of logistics and program support. The total estimated cost is $1.867 billion.

This proposed sale will support the foreign policy and national security of the United States by helping to strengthen the U.S.-Indian strategic relationship and to improve the security of a major defensive partner, which continues to be an important force for political stability, peace, and economic progress in the Indo-Pacific and South Asia region.

India intends to use these defense articles and services to modernize its armed forces, and to expand its existing air defense architecture to counter threats posed by air attack. This will contribute to India’s military goal to update its capability while further enhancing greater interoperability between India, the U.S., and other allies. India will have no difficulty absorbing these systems into its armed forces.

The proposed sale of this equipment and support will not alter the basic military balance in the region.

The principal contractors involved in this program are The Raytheon Corporation and Kongsberg Defense and Aerospace. There are no known offset agreements proposed in conjunction with this proposed sale; however, the purchaser typically requests offsets. Any offset agreement will be defined in negotiations between the Purchaser and the prime contractor(s).

Implementation of this proposed sale will require 60 U.S. Government or contractor representatives to travel to India for a period of six weeks (non-concurrent). Activities will include de-processing/fielding, training, and technical/logistics support.

There will be no adverse impact on U.S. defense readiness as a result of this proposed sale.

This notice of a potential sale is required by law and does not mean the sale has been concluded.

https://www.dsca.mil/major-arms-sal...ystem-iadws-and-related-equipment-and-support

 

[Pandora]

I think there was a news about India having second thoughts due to high cost of this system compared to other counterparts. Also news is about approval of possible sale not the final purchase.

 

[Sine Nomine]

The State Department has made a determination approving a possible Foreign Military Sale to India of an Integrated Air Defense Weapon System (IADWS) for an estimated cost of $1.867 billion. The Defense Security Cooperation Agency delivered the required certification notifying Congress of this possible sale on February 7, 2020.

The Government of India has requested to buy an Integrated Air Defense Weapon System (IADWS) comprised of: five (5) AN/MPQ-64Fl Sentinel radar systems; one hundred eighteen (118) AMRAAM AIM-120C-7/C-8 missiles; three (3) AMRAAM Guidance Sections; four (4) AMRAAM Control Sections; and one hundred thirty-four (134) Stinger FIM-92L missiles. Also included are thirty-two (32) M4A1 rifles; forty thousand three hundred twenty (40,320) M855 5.56mm cartridges; Fire Distribution Centers (FDC); Handheld Remote Terminals; Electrical Optical/Infrared (EO/IR) Sensor Systems; AMRAAM Non-Developmental Item-Airborne Instrumentation Units (NDIAIU); Multi-spectral Targeting System-Model A (MTS-A); Canister Launchers (CN); High Mobility Launchers (HML); Dual Mount Stinger (DMS) Air Defense Systems; Vehicle Mounted Stinger Rapid Ranger Air Defense Systems; communications equipment; tool kits; test equipment; range and test programs; support equipment; prime movers; generators; technical documentation; computer based training equipment; training equipment; training towers; ammunition storage; training and maintenance facilities; infrastructure improvements; U.S. Government and contractor technical support, engineering and logistics support services; warranty services; Systems and Integration Checkout (SICO); field office support; and other related elements of logistics and program support. The total estimated cost is $1.867 billion.

This proposed sale will support the foreign policy and national security of the United States by helping to strengthen the U.S.-Indian strategic relationship and to improve the security of a major defensive partner, which continues to be an important force for political stability, peace, and economic progress in the Indo-Pacific and South Asia region.

India intends to use these defense articles and services to modernize its armed forces, and to expand its existing air defense architecture to counter threats posed by air attack. This will contribute to India’s military goal to update its capability while further enhancing greater interoperability between India, the U.S., and other allies. India will have no difficulty absorbing these systems into its armed forces.

The proposed sale of this equipment and support will not alter the basic military balance in the region.

The principal contractors involved in this program are The Raytheon Corporation and Kongsberg Defense and Aerospace. There are no known offset agreements proposed in conjunction with this proposed sale; however, the purchaser typically requests offsets. Any offset agreement will be defined in negotiations between the Purchaser and the prime contractor(s).

Implementation of this proposed sale will require 60 U.S. Government or contractor representatives to travel to India for a period of six weeks (non-concurrent). Activities will include de-processing/fielding, training, and technical/logistics support.

There will be no adverse impact on U.S. defense readiness as a result of this proposed sale.

This notice of a potential sale is required by law and does not mean the sale has been concluded.

https://www.dsca.mil/major-arms-sal...ystem-iadws-and-related-equipment-and-support

Who knows,may be next step would be integration of these missiles on IAF fleet.

 

[Tipu7]

Who knows,may be next step would be integration of these missiles on IAF fleet.

Integration of Aim120 on existing IAF fighters is not possible.

 

[KhanBaba2]

Duplicate with https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/us-c...india-with-amraam-c8-aim-120d-missile.652923/

 

[Tipu7]

The State Department has made a determination approving a possible Foreign Military Sale to India of an Integrated Air Defense Weapon System (IADWS) for an estimated cost of $1.867 billion. The Defense Security Cooperation Agency delivered the required certification notifying Congress of this possible sale on February 7, 2020.

The Government of India has requested to buy an Integrated Air Defense Weapon System (IADWS) comprised of: five (5) AN/MPQ-64Fl Sentinel radar systems; one hundred eighteen (118) AMRAAM AIM-120C-7/C-8 missiles; three (3) AMRAAM Guidance Sections; four (4) AMRAAM Control Sections; and one hundred thirty-four (134) Stinger FIM-92L missiles. Also included are thirty-two (32) M4A1 rifles; forty thousand three hundred twenty (40,320) M855 5.56mm cartridges; Fire Distribution Centers (FDC); Handheld Remote Terminals; Electrical Optical/Infrared (EO/IR) Sensor Systems; AMRAAM Non-Developmental Item-Airborne Instrumentation Units (NDIAIU); Multi-spectral Targeting System-Model A (MTS-A); Canister Launchers (CN); High Mobility Launchers (HML); Dual Mount Stinger (DMS) Air Defense Systems; Vehicle Mounted Stinger Rapid Ranger Air Defense Systems; communications equipment; tool kits; test equipment; range and test programs; support equipment; prime movers; generators; technical documentation; computer based training equipment; training equipment; training towers; ammunition storage; training and maintenance facilities; infrastructure improvements; U.S. Government and contractor technical support, engineering and logistics support services; warranty services; Systems and Integration Checkout (SICO); field office support; and other related elements of logistics and program support. The total estimated cost is $1.867 billion.

This proposed sale will support the foreign policy and national security of the United States by helping to strengthen the U.S.-Indian strategic relationship and to improve the security of a major defensive partner, which continues to be an important force for political stability, peace, and economic progress in the Indo-Pacific and South Asia region.

India intends to use these defense articles and services to modernize its armed forces, and to expand its existing air defense architecture to counter threats posed by air attack. This will contribute to India’s military goal to update its capability while further enhancing greater interoperability between India, the U.S., and other allies. India will have no difficulty absorbing these systems into its armed forces.

The proposed sale of this equipment and support will not alter the basic military balance in the region.

The principal contractors involved in this program are The Raytheon Corporation and Kongsberg Defense and Aerospace. There are no known offset agreements proposed in conjunction with this proposed sale; however, the purchaser typically requests offsets. Any offset agreement will be defined in negotiations between the Purchaser and the prime contractor(s).

Implementation of this proposed sale will require 60 U.S. Government or contractor representatives to travel to India for a period of six weeks (non-concurrent). Activities will include de-processing/fielding, training, and technical/logistics support.

There will be no adverse impact on U.S. defense readiness as a result of this proposed sale.

This notice of a potential sale is required by law and does not mean the sale has been concluded.

https://www.dsca.mil/major-arms-sal...ystem-iadws-and-related-equipment-and-support

As usual, India is making a Zoo within its armed forces. Instead of homogenization and network centricity of its assets, it's randomly buying out stuff for political purposes.

 

[Sine Nomine]

Integration of Aim120 on existing IAF fighters is not possible.

Reasons plz.