US Cancel $300m Aid to Pakistan Over Militants Failure

[SialWarrior]

Trump is taking it to 10,000 plus again

 

[SialWarrior]

I admit That we can extra charge fees for Nato transit, but better will be to simply deny access. STOP all transit from Pakistan to Afghanistan.
The quicker NATO is out from Afghanistan, better will be situation in Asia...

They can also use central asian routes if we completly block access. So its better to stop it occassionally

 

[Mahmood-ur-Rehman]

The US military said it has made a final decision to cancel $300 million in aid to Pakistan that had been suspended over Islamabad's perceived failure to take decisive action against militants, in a new blow to deteriorating ties.

The so-called Coalition Support Funds were part of a broader suspension in aid to Pakistan announced by President Donald Trump at the start of the year, when he accused Pakistan of rewarding past assistance with "nothing but lies and deceit."

The Trump administration says Islamabad is granting safe haven to insurgents who are waging a 17-year-old war in neighboring Afghanistan, a charge Pakistan denies.

"Due to a lack of Pakistani decisive actions in support of the South Asia Strategy the remaining $300 (million) was reprogrammed," Pentagon spokesman Lieutenant Colonel Kone Faulkner said.

https://www.jpost.com/Breaking-News/Pentagon-cancels-aid-to-Pakistan-over-record-on-militants-566289

Good thing now we will have free policies

 

[T-Rex]

How innocent. Not because you are Muslim but because you are not aligning with US interest......sanctions are against Russia, North Korea too...are they Muslims?? and not against UAE, Saudi A...are they not Muslims?

Is it your culture to insert religion wherever you get screwed....and pretend yourself as victim?

I think it's the culture of those Evangelical thugs to insert their Christian views in everything. Hence we see this blind support for the zionazi state of israel. Matter of UAE and KSA are patronized by these neo-crusaders not because they are Muslims (though functionally they are not) but because they are actively helping to pave the way for the coming of the messiah. Russia on the other hand, is opposed because of her military strength which has the potential to create obstacles for the US global hegemony and China and NK are in the same category.

 

[PeaceGen]

In my view, it was Pakistan that refused to police their own tribal regions effectively.

it was Pakistan's new leader who threatened to shoot down western drones heading for terrorists in Pakistan.

and now that we finally send a clear signal of our discontent with the sincerity and intensity of Pakistan's own anti-terror efforts,
you want to play games with the transit routes to Afghanistan.

not smart.

for now you can rot in the misery you create for yourselves (attacks by the Taliban that you won't deal with effectively), but when new attacks are launched from your territories against western targets, you'll find us forced to prune terrorist ranks in your territories once again.

this behavior is not doing the moderates and fundamentalists of Pakistan any good. you can choose to soak in a false sense of being right, but even to other Muslims it'll be clear how you choose to live in misery rather than address the real problems (aggressive and oppressive Muslims living on your turf)

 

[maximuswarrior]

In my view, it was Pakistan that refused to police their own tribal regions effectively.

it was Pakistan's new leader who threatened to shoot down western drones heading for terrorists in Pakistan.

and now that we finally send a clear signal of our discontent with the sincerity and intensity of Pakistan's own anti-terror efforts,
you want to play games with the transit routes to Afghanistan.

not smart.

for now you can rot in the misery you create for yourselves (attacks by the Taliban that you won't deal with effectively), but when new attacks are launched from your territories against western targets, you'll find us forced to prune terrorist ranks in your territories once again.

this behavior is not doing the moderates and fundamentalists of Pakistan any good. you can choose to soak in a false sense of being right, but even to other Muslims it'll be clear how you choose to live in misery rather than address the real problems (aggressive and oppressive Muslims living on your turf)

You can scream and shout all you like. It is you who are rotting in Afghanistan with insider attacks and Taliban attacks for the past 17 years. You are rotting in Afghanistan indefintely and spending over a trillion dollars. Countless soldiers have died and not to even talk about innocent people. LOL the last time I checked you begged and depended on Pakistani supply routes. So much for the tough talk.

You, the US/NATO have lost the war in Afghanistan. A bunch of Afghan militants have kicked your a$$ collectively in the ruins of Afghanistan. All you can do now is blame Russia, Pakistan, Iran and others for your own failures.

Now let that fat b@stard Pompeo come today. He will find out what it means to negotiate with a proper leader. You have had free lunches for decades. Your threats and blackmail is going to be laughed at.

 

[PeaceGen]

You can scream and shout all you like. It is you who are rotting in Afghanistan with insider attacks and Taliban attacks. LOL the last time I checked you begged and depended on Pakistani supply routes. So much for toch talk.

You the US/NATO have lost the war in Afghanistan.

Afghanistan is a war in progress.. Notice how there haven't been any attacks from Afghan/Pakistani soil against western targets in recent decades? That's apparently all we're willing to enforce. The rest, actual human rights for the populations there, the right to good governance, that's up to the people over there. They won't even let us help.

 

[maximuswarrior]

Afghanistan is a war in progress.. Notice how there haven't been any attacks from Afghan/Pakistani soil against western targets in recent decades? That's apparently all we're willing to enforce. The rest, actual human rights for the populations there, the right to good governance, that's up to the people over there. They won't even let us help.

US/NATO cannot even prevent daily attacks in Afghanistan. Very recently an insider attack happened. US/NATO controls some parts of Kabul. The rest is controlled and owned by the Taliban.

The fact that the US/NATO cannot let go of Pakistan despite it's daily dose of accusations i.e. 17 years of bickering speaks volume. We haven't forgotten Salala and drone strikes by the way that have killed scores of innocent Pakistanis.

You are damn right about US drones. We are going to shoot them if they enter our airspace. All I can say is the US/NATO should try.

 

[PeaceGen]

US/NATO cannot even prevent daily attacks in Afghanistan. Very recently an insider attack happened. US/NATI controls some parts of Kabul. The rest is controlled and owned by the Taliban.

And how many of these insider attacks, or succesful attacks on western installations in Afghanistan, do you get per decade? few.

We'd love to free the Afghans of the Taliban. But they're going to have to put their own blood and treasure in that effort, not just let their politicians shuttle large percentages of western aid money into their private swiss bank accounts.

We have a saying over here : people get the quality of government they deserve [ based on their own efforts to get and maintain good government ].

You are damn right about US drones. We are going to shoot them if they enter our airspace. All I can say is the US/NATO should try.

All that's going to do is gradually turn Pakistan and perhaps Afghanistan too, into another terror training camp zone, from which attacks against the west will be launched, and it'll be the current Pakistani government which will have to be beaten in order to prune this threat coming from the Pakistani/Afghan region, once again.

in other words : this pride of yours, is a recipe for decades or hundreds of years of suffering, and only when the suffering eases up a little bit can you claim to be winning or have won (like now).

 

[maximuswarrior]

And how many of these insider attacks, or succesful attacks on western installations in Afghanistan, do you get per decade? few.

We'd love to free the Afghans of the Taliban. But they're going to have to put their own blood and treasure in that effort, not just let their politicians shuttle large percentages of western aid money into their private swiss bank accounts.

We have a saying over here : people get the quality of government they deserve [ based on their own efforts to get and maintain good government ].

They are extremely successful. Otherwise you wouldn't be in Afghanistan for almost 2 decades now.

LOL you have been claiming this freedom BS for decades now. We know what US freedom means. It means to occupy, plunder and contain China. LOL at the idea of freedom for Afghans. I kbow which freedom you are referring to. The one where US/NATO soldiers have to look the other way when Afghan children are being sexually abused by warlords. What happened to women's rights in Afghanistan? Your Afghan allies are killing and raping anything that crosses their path.

Your sayings mean nothing. Your actions don't even mean anything anymore. 17 years of continues losses prove this fact quite vividly.

LOL you can keep those drone strikes on your side of the border. Be happy to kill Afghans. If those drones enter our side we will fry them like an egg mid air.

Pakistan is doing tremendously well. Finally we are ditching American cvnts. We are allying and working with our regional allies. From CPEC to better relations with Russia and Iran. Now we have a new leadership which isn't corrupt and doesn't move its assets to Western capitals.

LOL there is no unity among European nations and the US. From trade, economics to politics and wars. Just wait until the Europeans say that enough is enough.

 

[PeaceGen]

They are extremely successful. Otherwise you wouldn't be in Afghanistan for almost 2 decades now.

LOL you have been claiming this freedom BS for decades now. We know what US freedom means. It means to occupy, plunder and contain China. LOL at the idea of freedom for Afghans. I kbow which freedom you are referring to. The one where US/NATO soldiers have to look the other way when Afghan children are being sexually abused by warlords.

Your sayings mean nothing. Your actions don't even mean anything anymore.

We don't care how long we have to be in Afghanistan, and we're happy to decrease pressure when that's possible or needed, but we're just as willing to increase pressure again when *that* becomes necessary.

your claims of victory are laughably premature.

you Muslims like to say that you're ready for hundreds of years of war.
so are we.
it's just that our politicians and ideological leaders don't like to say it, perhaps not to appear too war-mongering.

 

[maximuswarrior]

We don't care how long we have to be in Afghanistan, and we're happy to decrease pressure when that's possible or needed, but we're just as willing to increase pressure again when *that* becomes necessary.

your claims of victory are laughably premature.

you Muslims like to say that you're ready for hundreds of years of war.
so are we.
it's just that our politicians and ideological leaders don't like to say it, perhaps not to appear too war-mongering.

LOL neither do we care how long you are in Afghanistan. I hope you rot there forever. As long as you do not bother Pakistan we do not care about you and your sh!tty war. You have already lost countless lives, continue to invest your taxpayers money in a lost and meaningless war. We are building a fence for a reason. Just stop begging Pakistan to do more. We won't do anything.

We don't claim victory, but you are on our turf. We know how to deal with you. We have dealt with you for decades. China, Russia, Pakistan and Iran are all one page regarding US/NATO war in Afghanistan. Pakistan is not your only worry in Afghanistan LOL

LOL Muslims this Muslims that. You do realize that Afghanistan i.e. the country you occupy is also Muslim? Don't believe everything written in your propganda leaflets LOL

 

[PeaceGen]

LOL neither do we care how long you are in Afghanistan. I hope you rot there forever. As long as you do not bother Pakistan we so the care about you and your sh!tty war. We are building a fence for a reason. Just stop begging Pakistan to do more.

LOL Muslims this Muslims that. You do realize that Afghanistan i.e. the country you accopy is also Muslim? Don't believe everything written in your propganda leaflets LOL

it's your kind of thinking that might force us into Pakistan one day too.

stupid hubris of yours.

 

[maximuswarrior]

it's your kind of thinking that might force us into Pakistan one day too.

stupid hubris of yours.

LOL what has stopped you in the past 17 years?

You set foot in Pakistan and we will do stuff you cannot even comprehend.

Also, Pakistan is not the only country you have to worry about any more. The Afghan war has evolved into a much bigger affair and all other regional countries have a stake in this war. Your wish of winning in Afghanistan is next to zero.

US/NATO weren't already winning in Afghanistan. With China, Iran and Russia also being heavily involved your chances went to minus.

By they way, your ISIS import is being pulverized in Afghanistan LOL

 

[PeaceGen]

LOL what has stopped you in the past 17 years?

You set foot in Pakistan and we will do stuff you cannot even comprehend.

Also, Pakistan is not the only country you have to worry about any more. The Afghan war has evolved into a much bigger affair and all other regional countries have a stake in this war.

US/NATO weren't already winning in Afghanistan. With China, Iran and Russia your chances went to minus.

You mistake eb and flow for victory dude.

And what has stopped us in the past 17 years is the idea that Pakistanis would come to their senses on their own.
The opposite appears to be happening, and we're probably going to let it happen until a real necessity (and thereby excuse) to interfere in Pakistan's internal affairs arises. That could take years, and you'll be claiming victory for years, then if and when we do need to interfere, you'll go back into your victim role until your ranks have been pruned (as they are now), our pressure lets up, and you claim victory based on the fact we didn't completely take over the countries in the regions you mention.

Do you start to see how twisted and f-ed up your thinking really is?