we dont have any issues with who controls who or what in afghanistan we made a deal with afghan government and its there problem to give the route required security as for taliban why will they create problems for there own people in getting rich and getting new source of income just because india is building it and its coming thru iran ?
your so so wrong brother Chahbahar is not in any way against Chinese intersts or there New Silk Road to central asia and Europe
see take a map and see the diffrence between Kashgar to nearest production facilty /manufacturing cities in China and there distance from kashghar and Gawadar and how much distance china needs to cover to send its goods to central asia and Euorope (new silk road)
http://thediplomat.com/2014/05/chinas-new-silk-road-vision-revealed/
now tell me what will be chinas priority to do trade waia land in Xi’an in central China before stretching west through Lanzhou (Gansu province), Urumqi (Xinjiang), and Khorgas (Xinjiang), which is near the border with Kazakhstan. The Silk Road then runs southwest from Central Asia to northern Iran before swinging west through Iraq, Syria, and Turkey. From Istanbul, the Silk Road crosses the Bosporus Strait and heads northwest through Europe, including Bulgaria, Romania, the Czech Republic, and Germany. Reaching Duisburg in Germany, it swings north to Rotterdam in the Netherlands. From Rotterdam, the path runs south to Venice, Italy
or the CEPC where it again has to cover all the pakistan land distance after passing to karakoram pass to reach gawadar where the good will again be loaded on ships to join maratime silk route (why will they not keep using the orignal Silk Road or the maratime silk route)
in short :
1. CEPC is just Plan B /Insurence policy for trade if the chinese martime trade is effected in SCS to mallacka straits to bay of bengal to suez canal and beyond think about it
2. Chahbahaar corridoar is not even compition to chinese trade corridoar /New Silk route /Maratime Silk Route
Ah the gullible Indians.
Do you really think Taliban will give monkies to Kabul regime? Do you think it is that easy to use Afghan territory for the trade purpose. What is that you the Indians are good at which the super powers failed to do and even us the Pakistanis , remember the word UNICOL? And how that ended up. There was a time when Taliban were American state guests to discuss the pipeline project from central Asia. What you, a third world country or even Iran can offer to Talibans which the Americans didnt? And that was then when Afghansitan was perhaps a walk in park compared to what it has become now and just watch the space after the killing of their leader how things pan out in Afghansitan.
But by using CPEC the afghans, including Tablian , can export their minerals to Pakistan and China or even to world across using Gawadar. Always remember, Taliban due to ideological reasons hate Iran. Its a non starter if I have to be brutally honest.
Me wrong about Charbahar? Did you actually read the topic under discussion? Let me remind you what it says, "us-backs-india-iran-chabahar-port-deal-as-it-
outflanks-china-pakistan-gwadar-project" . My response is to negate the non sense which is this article. So you are in agreement with me that Charbahar is in no way against CPEC and this article is nothing but garbage?
Let me remind you again, CPEC is a
Chinese initiative, to which Pakistan gave its nod. Its is a Chinese interests first and foremost. They are the ones who proposed it to Pakistan years ago. Its not something which came out of blue. How China access Europe is non of Pakistan concern. And to honest, that not the priority of Chinese at this point in time. First and foremost, the access to energy is the main priority and the markets of middle east and Africa. That why they are based in Djibouti, to secure their trade lines. There is NO Chinese presence as such in central asia or north west Asia as such. More importantly, out of all nations, they take Pakistan as the most trusted ally. The road to Europe is long term project, and with many states and vested interests in between, it will be a hard task to take everyone along and reach Europe eventually, not just for Chinese but any other aspirants. With CPEC, there are no complication. Chinese border, off to Pakistan, on board ships docked @ Gawadar to the markets of ME, AFRICA, and through Red Sea, pass Seuz cannal and into Europe. And oil and gas of ME, going upwards from gawadar into China. Thing is, once something is build and in use, then it becomes the only viable option. Thats why we in Pakistan are going full throlle, as when CPEC starts to ship Chinese goods around next year, as mentioned by COAS, everyone will fall in line.
The question is, why this India , Iran and Afghanistan so called pact? What you are trying to achieve? You all are third world countries, make next to nothing worth that can be exported to the world. Your geography doesnt warrent that you have to use Charbahar for your imports mostly to come to you via some imaginary route from Charbahar from Europe and then shipped to you in India where you can easily use the existing shipping lanes which you have been using all along.
What they say, Devil is in detail. In nutshell, this so called agreement got nothing to do with trade or economy. Its a scheme to somehow sustain Indian presence in Afghanistan to keep on using Afghan soil for terrorism inside Pakistan. And now perhaps Iranian soil as well. Both Kabul regime and Mullah of Qom cant see Pakistan in the eye and want someone to do the dirty laundry for them, that is where India comes in handy.
Iran is a lots more influential than Pakistan.
It is the US interests to reduce Chinese influence in this area.
And dont try to teach us about trade .We are excellent in trade and commerce..
What influence? They just came out of sanctions. They are just learning the ropes at the moment.
Yes it is in American interest to curtail China. But is it working? NOPE
Among the three of you, the third world countries, what you are making that the world will be so excited about to use your so called trade route?
