US backs China & Russia, blow to Indian UNSC dream

[Beta-Fighter]

The P-5 / UNSC has any relevance. any country follow UNSC? India don't , and US is not position to impose sanctions now.

India buy IRAN fuels even in sanctions.

 

[Hindustani78]

India suffers blow as US,Russia,China oppose UNSC reform talks

United Nations, Aug 12, 2015, (PTI)

In a setback to India's bid for a permanent seat in an expanded UN Security Council, the US, along with Russia and China, has opposed negotiations to reform the powerful UN body, refusing to contribute to a text that will form the basis for the long-drawn reform process.

UN General Assembly President Sam Kutesa achieved a breakthrough of sorts by circulating a text to UN members that will form the basis for the negotiations on the reform of the Security Council. Kutesa had appointed Jamaica's Permanent Representative Courtenay Rattray to chair on his behalf the Intergovernmental Negotiations on Security Council Reform.

Kutesa, in a letter dated July 31 to all UN members, said he is also circulating letters containing the positions of groups and Member States that indicated they did not wish their proposals to be included in the body of the negotiating text. These countries include US, Russia and China.

American Ambassador to the UN Samantha Power said in her letter to Kutesa that the US is "open in principle" to a "modest" expansion of both permanent and non-permanent members but the condition that "any consideration of an expansion of permanent members must take into account the ability and willingness of countries to contribute to the maintenance of international peace and security and to the other purposes of the United Nations."

Power added that "we believe that consideration of new permanent members must be country-specific in nature." She also reiterated that the US remains opposed to "any alteration or expansion of the veto".

Sources told PTI that the US opposition to aspects of the reform process can be perceived as a "duplicity" since President Barack Obama has reaffirmed his support for a reformed UN Security Council with India as a permanent member.

Russia, which has also supported India's candidacy as permanent member, said in its letter to Kutesa that the "prerogatives of the current Permanent Members of the Security Council, including the use of the veto, should remain intact under any variant of the Council reform".

"The intergovernmental negotiations on the UN Security Council reform should proceed in a calm, transparent and inclusive atmosphere free from artificial deadlines," it said.

India has maintained that the process to expand the powerful UN body "cannot be seen to be an exercise ad infinitum" and a results-based timeline is crucial to achieve a concrete outcome.

"Those who ask for not imposing artificial timelines may be advised to desist from inflicting artificial delays on this process," India's Ambassador to the UN Asoke Kumar Mukerji has said in the past.

Sources said that India feels that the 70th anniversary of the UN, being commemorated this year, is an appropriate milestone to propel the reform process, which should be completed within the next one year.

Russia said that in the situation when positions of the main groups of states - those who support the idea of the UN Security Council's expansion in both categories and those who do not - remain polar, one can advance in the negotiating process only by searching for a compromise.

It said that while it supports broader representation of the developing countries from Africa, Asia and Latin America on a reformed Security Council, it is important to maintain compact composition of the Council in order for it to provide an adequate and prompt reaction to new challenges.

"The number of members in an enlarged UNSC should not exceed a reasonable level of low twenties," it added. On improvement of the working methods of the Security Council, Russia said the leading role in this process should belong to the Security Council itself as the "only legitimate master of its own procedures and working methods."

China said UNSC reform is "multifaceted", covering not only issues such as enlarging the Council's membership and strengthening representation, but also increasing efficiency and improving working methods. It added that Member States are still seriously divided on the Security Council reform and no general agreement has been reached on any solution so far.

UNSC "reform should not be carried out at the expense of the unity of Member States. All member States should remain committed to the intergovernmental negotiations process, adopt a flexible and pragmatic attitude, gradually build mutual trust and meet each other halfway. No solution on which Member States are seriously divided or approach that may cause division among Member States will have China's Support," it said.

"Member states still need to engage in patient consultations to find a solution that accommodates each other's interests and concerns," it said, a position different from that of India which has stressed that the 2015 "is a year for decisive action" and for it, another round of the IGN with business like the earlier rounds would "not be acceptable."

India has said it would then find it very difficult to meaningfully engage with the process. China also stressed that new seats of the Security Council should be reasonably distributed. It also noted that any solution or reform model should enjoy general consensus.

"The five clusters of key issues concerning Security Council reform are interrelated, and should not be addressed in isolation of each other. It is imperative to stick to the approach of a package solution. The 'piecemeal' or 'step-by-step' approach is not conducive to accommodating the interests and concerns of Member States," China said.

India has received support from France and the UK, the two remaining permanent members of Security Council. The two nations along with Kazakhstan and Romania have specifically named in the negotiating text Brazil, Germany, India, Japan and an African representation to be included among the permanent members of a reformed UNSC.

 

[Zarvan]

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Apparently China has been "supporting India's UNSC bid" since 2008. (And they really believe it too ).

Nothing can be done about our beloved neighbor hilarious dreams.

 

[Hindustani78]

Pacific island countries showed widespread support for India's UNSC membership: MEA | Zee News
Last Updated: Friday, August 21, 2015 - 23:48


Jaipur: The Ministry of External Affairs (MEA) on Friday said that Pacific island countries showed widespread support for India's permanent membership in United Nations Security Council (UNSC) during the Forum for India-Pacific Islands Cooperation (FIPIC) Summit here.


"There was widespread support in the delegation for India's candidature for permanent membership on UNSC. The other dominant issue was that of climate change which affects Pacific Island member countries most. Prime Minister Modi highlighted the steps taken in this regard and promised that India will work with them keeping their interests in mind in terms of dangers of climate change," said MEA's Secretary (East), Anil Wadhwa.

"He also outlined the measures the India has taken in creation of aforestation measures and also the steps we have taken to reduce carbon emission. The measures that India has taken in increasing our solar capacity by 2022," he added.

FIPIC summit was held in Jaipur today.

The Ministers and delegates of 14 Pacific island nations, which include Fiji, Marshall Islands, Nauru, Niue, Palau, Papua New Guinea, Samoa, Tuvalu, Vanuatu, Cook Islands, Kiribati, Micronesia, Solomon Islands and Tonga, were present at the summit.

This is the second Summit of the FIPIC being organized in less than a year. The first summit was held in Fiji on 19 November 2014.

ANI


First Published: Friday, August 21, 2015 - 23:48

 

[Hindustani78]

India, Germany hope for strong momentum for UNSC reform | Zee News
Last Updated: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 - 22:46

Berlin: India and Germany, both aspirants of a permanent seat in the Security Council, on Wednesday hoped that there will be a strong momentum for "text-based" negotiations which can lead to a positive outcome in the reform of the UN ahead of its 70th anniversary.

The issue of UN reform came up for discussion during talks between External Affairs Minister Sushma Swaraj, who is here on a two-day visit, and her German counterpart Frank-Walter Steinmeir.

"The UN Security council reform came up for discussion in a big way. Now the discussions have moved to the inter- governmental negotiations and India and Germany have both hoped that there will be a strong momentum to having text- based negotiations which can lead to some kind of positive outcome in the 70th anniversary year of the UN," External Affairs Ministry Spokesperson Vikas Swarup told PTI here.

India and Germany are among the G4 nations which support each other's bids for a permanent seat in the powerful UN Security Council. The other two members of G4 are Japan and Brazil.

India, along with other nations in the G4 bloc, have said it is "high time" the powerful UN Security Council is reformed to make it more representative and fit for the 21st century.

UN General Assembly President Sam Kutesa achieved a breakthrough of sorts recently by circulating a text to UN members that will form the basis for the negotiations on the reform of the Security Council.

Kutesa had appointed Jamaica's Permanent Representative Courtenay Rattray to chair on his behalf the Inter- Governmental Negotiations on the Security Council reform.

 

[Luca1]

India, Germany hope for strong momentum for UNSC reform | Zee News
Last Updated: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 - 22:46

Berlin: India and Germany, both aspirants of a permanent seat in the Security Council, on Wednesday hoped that there will be a strong momentum for "text-based" negotiations which can lead to a positive outcome in the reform of the UN ahead of its 70th anniversary.

The issue of UN reform came up for discussion during talks between External Affairs Minister Sushma Swaraj, who is here on a two-day visit, and her German counterpart Frank-Walter Steinmeir.

"The UN Security council reform came up for discussion in a big way. Now the discussions have moved to the inter- governmental negotiations and India and Germany have both hoped that there will be a strong momentum to having text- based negotiations which can lead to some kind of positive outcome in the 70th anniversary year of the UN," External Affairs Ministry Spokesperson Vikas Swarup told PTI here.

India and Germany are among the G4 nations which support each other's bids for a permanent seat in the powerful UN Security Council. The other two members of G4 are Japan and Brazil.

India, along with other nations in the G4 bloc, have said it is "high time" the powerful UN Security Council is reformed to make it more representative and fit for the 21st century.

UN General Assembly President Sam Kutesa achieved a breakthrough of sorts recently by circulating a text to UN members that will form the basis for the negotiations on the reform of the Security Council.

Kutesa had appointed Jamaica's Permanent Representative Courtenay Rattray to chair on his behalf the Inter- Governmental Negotiations on the Security Council reform.

Keep the begging going. Lets see who will say yes to India when it really counts.

 

[chhota bheem]

Keep the begging going. Lets see who will say yes to India when it really counts.

Stop thinking about India atleast while sleeping bro.

 

[Hindustani78]

Keep the begging going. Lets see who will say yes to India when it really counts.

UK, France and United States are for Permanent UNSC seat for India.

US denies opposing Indias bid for permanent seat in UNSC | Business Standard News
“US supports India’s bid for a membership at the UN Security Council. America has always supported India as a permanent member explicitly…. I reaffirm the strong US position in this regard,” US ambassador to India Richard Verma.

India would need the support of at least 129 of the 193 member-countries of the UN. However, the process requires a draft resolution to be approved by all the members.



Russia backs India’s bid for a permanent UNSC seat - The Hindu

despite the assertions of public support for India’s candidature, neither the U.S. nor Russia has explained why their letters to U.N. General Assembly president Sam Kutesa did not include their support.

New Delhi, which will be competing for a permanent seat with Germany, Japan and Brazil, already has the support of France and the U.K., and has long held that as one of the biggest democracies and a growing economy it is poised to take its place in the UNSC complete with the veto.

 

[Luca1]

UK, France and United States are for Permanent UNSC seat for India.

US denies opposing Indias bid for permanent seat in UNSC | Business Standard News
“US supports India’s bid for a membership at the UN Security Council. America has always supported India as a permanent member explicitly…. I reaffirm the strong US position in this regard,” US ambassador to India Richard Verma.

India would need the support of at least 129 of the 193 member-countries of the UN. However, the process requires a draft resolution to be approved by all the members.



Russia backs India’s bid for a permanent UNSC seat - The Hindu

despite the assertions of public support for India’s candidature, neither the U.S. nor Russia has explained why their letters to U.N. General Assembly president Sam Kutesa did not include their support.

New Delhi, which will be competing for a permanent seat with Germany, Japan and Brazil, already has the support of France and the U.K., and has long held that as one of the biggest democracies and a growing economy it is poised to take its place in the UNSC complete with the veto.

But when it really counts, U.S. and Russia said no....LOL

 

[mike2000 is back]

Nope india is bigger than all these countries put together. And Britain is declining. There are other European cities in places like Scandinavia that score high on several of these indexes, you obviously cannot give them primacy basis that. And like I said, UK military power has seen a permanent decline. As of today their lead offensive jet is the Tornado (not the EFT), that....just....some....joke.....

Wow....an indian calling Great Britain a joke??? Wonder shall never end. This joke country who is helping you to build a simple trainer jet, and still you are struggling to build it according to instructions. Calm down man, you are in no position to make fun of us to be honest.

 

[Luca1]

Wow....an indian calling Great Britain a joke??? Wonder shall never end. This joke country who is helping you to build a simple trainer jet, and still you are struggling to build it according to instructions. Calm down man, you are in no position to make fun of us to be honest.

India wants a seat in UNSC. And they feel that England is past its prime and do not deserve an UNSC seat more than India. So...

 

[IR-TR]

India wants a seat in UNSC. And they feel that England is past its prime and do not deserve an UNSC seat more than India. So...

And they would be right, same for France. A single EU seat is warranted. That would be more representative of the world's power structure. Not saying India needs a seat today, but in 10-15 years, F yeah.

 

[Luca1]

And they would be right, same for France. A single EU seat is warranted. That would be more representative of the world's power structure. Not saying India needs a seat today, but in 10-15 years, F yeah.

India is all about the future. It's true today. It will be true 15 years from. It's a country that cannot live up to its potential.

The truth is that India is not a natural country. It need to split up.

 

[Hindustani78]

But when it really counts, U.S. and Russia said no....LOL

India is one of the founding member of UN and India do have all the capacity to be permanent member of UNSC , economy wise, population wise, militarily wise, technology wise.

India is all about the future. It's true today. It will be true 15 years from. It's a country that cannot live up to its potential.

The truth is that India is not a natural country. It need to split up.

Stop kidding, India is an united country and all Indians will stand for the nation.

 

[Luca1]

India is one of the founding member of UN and India do have all the capacity to be permanent member of UNSC , economy wise, population wise, militarily wise, technology wise.



Stop kidding, India is an united country and all Indians will stand for the nation.

India will only have potentials but no substance.