US backed India on Kashmir in 1965 Indo-Pak war

[Hindustani78]

Last Updated: Thursday, August 27, 2015 - 13:40
US backed India on Kashmir in 1965 Indo-Pak war | Zee News


Washington: The US in 1965 had supported India's stand that there should be no plebiscite in Kashmir, declassified US documents of the era indicate.

At the peak of the 1965 Indo-Pak war, the then Prime Minister Lal Bahadur Shastri wrote a letter to US President Lyndon Johnson wherein he informed the American leadership that New Delhi is willing to agree to an unconditional ceasefire.

He in his letter dated September 16, 1965 ruled out plebiscite in Kashmir arguing that the 1948 UN resolution in this regard was no longer acceptable.

Shastri's comments came after the then Pakistan foreign minister Zulfikar Ali Bhutto told Americans that Pakistan was ready to be degraded as a nation but would not give up its claims over Kashmir.

The day on which the Indian forces entered Pakistan, US Ambassador in Islamabad Walter Patrick McConaughty met the then Pakistan president Ayyub Khan and foreign minister Bhutto who wanted an assurance from the US, UN and the international community for a plebiscite in Kashmir.

During the conversation, McConaughty told them that Pakistan was responsible for this war, by sending troops inside Kashmir and using American weapons -- which were given for use against a communist China -- against India.

The same day, the Johnson Administration in a separate telegram asked McConaughty to convey a tough message to Pakistan that it should not portray itself as a victim, for which it itself was to be blamed.

"We must view India's attacks across Pak border in over-all context events past few weeks. It clear from UNSYG (UN Secretary General) report that immediate crisis began with substantial infiltration of armed men from the Pakistan side," the State Department said in its message to McConaughty that was to be conveyed to Pakistan.

"We (are) aware India first put regular forces across CFL but Pak responses thereto in Chhamb area struck at points India considered vital, and Indians have long asserted (a) they could not tolerate continued Pak offensive, and (b) if Pakistan should strike India's vital interests, India would have no choice but to respond in area of its own choosing. GOP must have been well aware of risk involved in its own actions in Jammu and Kashmir," the State Department said.

But the US officials had a tough job to do to convince Pakistan for an unconditional ceasefire.

PTI

 

[Menace2Society]

And still lost

 

[hkdas]

And still lost

laughing at Pakistan army for losing the war!!??

 

[naveen mishra]

 

[Hindustani78]

'US' non-mediation policy on Kashmir developed in 1950s'
Washington, Aug 28 (PTI)

The US' policy of non-mediation on Kashmir issue and to encourage India and Pakistan to resolve the dispute through dialogue was developed in early 1950s, according to a recently released declassified document.
According to the top secret 1954 document, which was declassified and made public by the CIA in July, the US had arrived at a conclusion that it is only India and Pakistan, which can resolve the dispute over Kashmir through peace and dialogue.

This is amply reflected in para 42 of the Operation Coordination Board, which was set by the then US President Dwight Eisenhower in 1954, responsible for integrating implementation of national security policies across several agencies.

"Continue to make clear to India that the Kashmir issue should be settled by mutual agreement between India and Pakistan, that the United States is willing to assist through the UN and by other means, but that the US has no ulterior motives or hidden objectives which would be fostered by settlement in favour of either country," said paragraph 42 of the document.

This was part of the "United States Policy towards South Asia" approved by Eisenhower on March 6, 1954. Operations Coordinating Board was designated as the coordinating agency for the implementation of the US Policy towards South Asia.

"The US has continued to make clear its views that the Kashmir issue should be settled by mutual agreement between India and Pakistan," said a 1954 report on the progress if implementation of this policy, as such making it clear that it no longer favoured a plebiscite in Kashmir as demanded by Pakistan, citing a UN resolution.

The Operation Coordination Board was abolished by President John Kennedy in 1961.
It is under this 1953 policy of Eisenhower that the US on December 6, 1954, ended its participation in the UN mission in Jammu and Kashmir after the then Prime Minister Jawaharlal Nehru raised objections in this regard.

This policy again finds reference in the Operation Coordination Board report of 1955.
"Make clear to Pakistan that our objective in the Kashmir issue is a solution acceptable to both India and Pakistan and that in this issue we are not prepared to support either country against the other," the document said.

 

[Nilgiri]

And still lost

Quoting for you from the whole document:

Declassified US documents indicate it backed India on Kashmir in 1965

As Pakistan was fast running out of ammunition, US feared that any delay in ceasefire would put Pakistan at a disadvantage position and could be very well run over by a strong Indian Army, which was moving fast inside the Pakistan side of Punjab. Even at this stage, both Ayub Khan and Bhutto insisted that US should exert pressure on India for a plebiscite in Kashmir or else America would be considered an enemy of Pakistan.

Four days after Indian forces successfully entered Pakistani Punjab, McConaughy met Bhutto with a ceasefire proposal so as to protect the territorial integrity of Pakistan. Referring to his conversation with Bhutto in Rawalpindi, McConaughty wrote in a cable that the Pakistan foreign minister conceded that because of India opening the battle front in Punjab, attrition was already becoming a problem for the Pakistani forces and attrition would soon have a ruinous effect on the country's ability to defend itself if US decision not reversed.

Get spanked badly after initiating conflict. Claim victory because India decided to negotiate. Such fine Pakistan logic.

Its ok, the karma from pakistan hollow chest-thumping came home to roost in 1971....and has stayed ever since

 

[navtrek]

And still lost

The same day, the Johnson Administration in a separate telegram asked McConaughty to convey a tough message to Pakistan that it should not portray itself as a victim, for which it itself was to be blamed.

Pakistan winning is also the same way of portrayal. As far as i know that war was inconclusive with no clear victor.

But no point arguing over it if u believe u won then u won u can be happy.

 

[Hindustani78]

News channels ignored 1965 war victory event: Parrikar | Zee News

Panaji: Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar has taken a dig at news channels, saying they are busy covering a complex murder case and ignored an event held to celebrate the country's victory in the 1965 war.

"The Indian news channels these days choose to concentrate their entire strength on a complex murder case, while ignoring the commencement of golden jubilee celebration of India's victory over Pakistan in 1965 war," he said addressing a function organised to hand over 'rakhis' to soldiers here last evening.

He lauded the event held in Panaji where more than 27,000 rakhis were sent to Indian soldiers, on the occasion of 'Raksha Bandhan'.

"Rakhi may not increase the potency of a bullet in the gun of an Indian soldier, but it will do greater things, including making an emotional difference in the mind of the soldier, which will connect him to Indian states and countless families staying there," he said.

The Defence Minister also rued that several times people try to support anti-nationals.

"We encountered a situation in Jammu and Kashmir when a terrorist from a foreign country was arrested. The locals started stoning the Army personnel when he was captured," Parrikar said.

PTI

 

[Hindustani78]

50 years after 1965 war, veterans still rue territory returned to Pakistan

Fifty years after India and Pakistan engaged in a full-scale war, the return to Pakistan of territory captured by the soldiers still rankles the veterans of the 1965 conflict.

Even as they relate tales of bravery and unimaginable courage, the veterans, who now have the non-implementation of the One Rank One Pension (OROP) scheme to add to their disappointments with the country's political leadership, question why the captured territory was given back.

One such veteran is Wing Commander K.S. Parihar (retd) of the Indian Air Force, who was all of 21 years when the war broke out and was also trained as a para commando because it was his job to airdrop these elite troops behind enemy lines.

"Pakistan thought a humble man like (then Indian prime minister) Lal Bahadur Shastri would not be able to take a stand against them...(Pakistani president) Field Marshal Ayub Khan was six foot tall. They had the latest arms and equipment dumped by America, but they forgot the Indian soldier fought for the love of his motherland," Parihar told IANS.

"Our soldiers gave their blood, and all the land we captured was returned to Pakistan... we feel angry about it," the veteran added.

Col V.S. Oberoi (retd), who is a veteran of not just the 1965 war but also of the 1962 and 1971 wars, was posted in the Samba sector of Jammu and Kashmir and was a part of the armoured corps that rolled into Pakistan and captured a key railway station, Alhar, that connected Sialkot to Rawalpindi.

"We crossed the border and we kept going for 16 days before the ceasefire was declared. In that period, we captured the Alhar railway station, cutting off Rawalpindi and Sialkot," Oberoi said.

The veteran said the army collected a number of items as souvenirs, including the station master's cash box, tickets and the station's signboard.

"However, all that area was given back to Pakistan... We still feel angry about it," he said. "Even the (strategic) Haji Pir pass (which reduces the distance from Jammu to Srinagar by over 200 km) was given back," he lamented.

The commemoration of the 1965 war started on August 28 to mark the day when the Haji Pir pass was captured.

The return of Haji Pir to Pakistan through the Tashkent agreement has for long been seen by a section of experts as a mistake on the Indian side.

Another tale is that of Lance Naik Sadananda (retd).

In a dramatic operation, Sadananda, who was 25/26-year-old at the time, along with other soldiers, blew a bridge over the Satluj river that was under the control of the Pakistanis.

"The bridge was over the Satluj and in Pakistan's control. We were given the task of blowing it up so that Pakistanis could not cross over to our side," Sadananda said.

For about 1.5-2 km the Lance Naik crawled to the bridge, avoiding enemy fire, with explosives filled in his backpack and pouches.

"There was a railway line under the bridge, we climbed up the bridge using ropes, put the explosives in place...and blew the bridge up," the veteran said.

"But when the territory was given back to Pakistan, the soldier in me was hurt," he added.
Equally exciting is the story of Lt. Gen. Ashok Agarwal (retd) who was defending Srinagar airport against the enemy.

"Enemy aircraft would fly above us, but our soldiers were brave. They were fearless, they would train their guns at the enemy aircraft," Agarwal said.

All that the soldiers had were radars to track the enemy aircraft and L-60 guns to shoot them down.

"We never gave up, we did not fear for our lives," he added, pride glittering in his eyes.
Nearly 3,000 soldiers, sailors and airmen were martyred in the war, which lasted 17 days.
The war ended with India capturing around 1,920 sq km of Pakistani territory, while India had lost around 560 sq km of land.

The Tashkent Declaration was signed on January 10, 1966, between India and Pakistan. This saw both the countries return to the pre-conflict positions by returning the territory they had captured.

The veterans, however, add that their war at present was for getting OROP.
"If the government honours its promise that will be true respect for us," Agarwal said.

The programmes lined up for the commemoration from August 28 to September 26 include honouring of veterans - but they say they will boycott this.

"We will not attend any government function if our demands are not met," Parihar added.

 

[Nilgiri]

Yes giving back Haji Pir pass was a monumental blunder.

Of course biggest blunder was not finishing up in 1st Kashmir War and bringing UN in way too early.

 

[malikmohsin]

Breaking News India won 1965 war
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