US Asks Pakistan to Restrain its Nuclear and Missile Programs

[Umair Nawaz]

It means you get money only if there is transit, no money, if no transit. Also, bulk of the money is in production and sales, not in transit.
And unlike, the 60s or 70s now there are alternate routes opening up. So there is a competition for the transit route too. Its not like a Panama canal.

lol son, we r 8th largest country and top 5 in miners wealth. Even under Mushy's times we hit 8% around 2007. Now after CPEC i dont think there will be much we can count from yr trade routes. Plus the sponsoring of terrorism, Kashmir r enough issues for us not to allow u.

Then again u can count on Chahbahar n Sea routes.

 

[nForce]

lol son, we r 8th largest country and top 5 in miners wealth. Even under Mushy's times we hit 8% around 2007. Now after CPEC i dont think there will be much we can count from yr trade routes. Plus the sponsoring of terrorism, Kashmir r enough issues for us not to allow u.

Then again u can count on Chahbahar n Sea routes.

Replace Pakistan with Azerbaijan and it will mean the same, thats how much meaningful your argument is, nothing but wishful thinking. Why didn't you go to a proper school when you had time ?

 

[Umair Nawaz]

Replace Pakistan with Azerbaijan and it will mean the same, thats how much meaningful your argument is, nothing but wishful thinking. Why didn't you go to a proper school when you had time ?

Only problem is Azerbaijan isnt a 8th largest country, nor have 46 billions of CPEC nor as strategically located or has any real reliable allies like that of Pakistan or a nuclear and regional power itself.

 

[nForce]

Only problem is Azerbaijan isnt a 8th largest country, nor have 46 billions of CPEC nor as strategically located or has any real reliable allies like that of Pakistan or a nuclear and regional power itself.

Seriously, you think one funding makes all the difference ? You need to grow up! And what good is nuclear power ? What difference does it make of the country is 8th largest or 13th largest ?
Also, Pakistan has reliable allies ? Do you understand the meaning of the word ally ?

 

[Umair Nawaz]

Seriously, you think one funding makes all the difference ? You need to grow up! And what good is nuclear power ? What difference does it make of the country is 8th largest or 13th largest ?
Also, Pakistan has reliable allies ? Do you understand the meaning of the word ally ?

not one funding, but was just an example. We have what it takes to be a leading country as we were till 80s viz a viz yr country too. And have reached 8% growth rate in 2007. The only thing that kept us back was this WOT. Now however it has been nearing its end with op zarb e azb so i expect us to flourish, trade routes or not.

 

[nForce]

not one funding, but was just an example. We have what it takes to be a leading country as we were till 80s viz a viz yr country too. And have reached 8% growth rate in 2007. The only thing that kept us back was this WOT. Now however it has been nearing its end with op zarb e azb so i expect us to flourish, trade routes or not.

Good luck son.

 

[Umair Nawaz]

Good luck son.

sure son.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

We can't restrain , because our enemy is building Nuclear bombs (Thermo nuclear) and they just bought S400

 

[IceCold]

"There is no positive sign of any improved relations with India because Pakistan justifies its nuclear proliferation as a deterrent against aggression from the outside. So the US has to get tougher with Pakistan. We have to call them out on this double game they have been playing, not this year, not last year, not five years but for the past 15 years," Higgins said.

We are the ones playing double game or is it the US that is playing a double game by arming India to the teeth you fucking hypocrite americans. I have said it many times that ultimately US is going to come for us. They see us as a threat because

1 We are the only muslim nuclear power
and
2) We deny Indian harmony in the region which is important for the US as it sees India as a counter weight to China.

They are looking for pretext that could give them the justification to attack Pakistan. Already an attack on Pakistan including a nuclear attack has been shown in different US media. Its high time we start preparing for this eventuality which is bound to happen one day and we dont want to be caught with our pants down.
Last time we tow the US line against Afghanistan, that is how we survived but look at the cost we paid for that and still are paying. Next time what if the US says hand over the nuclear weapons or we are coming?
An ICBM should be next in line along with the ability for second strike. Yes US will go crazy over this, sanction us and what not but thats the extent they could go unless they openly attack Pakistan. India has developed an ICBM for China, even when their trade is high, why cant we develop for the US (Just in case)

 

[Viper0011.]

oops,
"But since I have Pakistani background, I want PAKISTAN's national interests BEYOND anyone else !!!"

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"Yes, AA. I don't mind personal questions. You are welcome to PM me if you like too."

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So an self confessed african american with Pakistani origin? or will there be a few more revelations after quick visit to ancestry.com

@Slav Defence @Irfan Baloch: I've literally responded to this fool above about 20 times on the SAME topic. Would you please let him know to READ below ONE more time, so he can understand what the hell I meant, so we don't have to derail every thread because his senses to memorize or remember are seriously compromised. As you can see, I am pretty darn frustrated by the SAME rant being repeated when this has been explained.

MilSpec: For the Nth time, (not that its anyone's business), I've got a lot of time under my belt in dealing with Pakistan in multiple ways. I've been to the country for business and pleasure way too many times. Used to go to mountain climbing and still cherish the times I've spent there with locals and the respect and courtesy I received!! So yes, that is my background from Pakistan.

You guys spend billions in lobby right? So consider me a free-lance, unpaid, lobbyist-as-a -hobby for Pakistan just because I respect the niceness and the treatment I got during every trip. I've made many friends here from both, Pakistan and India and they are good people.

Try not to bring this stupid effing question again and derail a thread.
And by the way, wake the hell up and read the anti-Pakistan establishment posts that I write as I am pro-democracy. And my goal is to write the truth so that the people of Pakistan can see another version and opinion on events they deal with, and can start to think straight. My goal is to create awareness and let people understand democracy in depth and global comparisons to build mature thought process about a "system". I am not here to accommodate a fools' paradise (and you live on there too).

You don't have to comment on my posts as you bring low quality to each thread and then its derailed with stupid questions, like in your post above. And now I have to respond by adding more garbage to it. QUALITY posts PLEASE!!

You must work for the Walmart security company MilSpec, as you can't seem to write one quality post. I can't imagine how anyone would want you to write real MilSpecs (Military Specifications)

 

[Arsalan]

Again that is your misunderstanding.

Well what is my miss understanding?
that you had run out of arguments here and have fallen back to one liners with no real meaning.
Come on dear, you are much better than this.
There is no shame in just walking out or admitting to some mistake. We all make mistakes.

Anyway, i hope you will again come up with actual points to back up your claims rather then beating about the bush. and leave you and @Areesh to continue with same debate (if it have still not reached a conclusion in your mind) based on actual strong points, not a Bhais brai Bahis!

 

[sankar]

ok supa pawa ****** and before that proposal even somehow enters UN it will be vetod by china at the UN gates, all this that we have isolated pakistan is just the khyali pallao in enndians mind.Pakistan has more friends then india can eve have and that too without them milking us by buying weapons from them, india friends are those countires who milk you for buying weapons they are not freinds they are selling you weapons and if you think they will help you in some other kind then good for you

Keep dreaming that China will give you food, China will give you Weapons, China will give a Veto for you, China will do etc.. etc..

Tell me honestly don't you think you are relying little too much on one country ?? Also, China did not even consider Muslims as citizens - They cannot even fast in the holy month of Ramzan. I don't know what kind of freindship you have with them.
Until unless you support China, China will support you. Otherwise again you look for new all weather friend ??

 

[SrNair]

Well what is my miss understanding?
that you had run out of arguments here and have fallen back to one liners with no real meaning.
Come on dear, you are much better than this.
There is no shame in just walking out or admitting to some mistake. We all make mistakes.

Anyway, i hope you will again come up with actual points to back up your claims rather then beating about the bush. and leave you and @Areesh to continue with same debate (if it have still not reached a conclusion in your mind) based on actual strong points, not a Bhais brai Bahis!

Still I couldnt understand .What is the problem sirji?
I have been already cleared my points .But that Areesh repeat the same stupidity again and again.
Then you suddenly came up for your countryman Areesh.

Fact I didnt argue with you .
So there is no problem of running out of arguments.

 

[M.AsfandYar]

Imbalance is everywhere. China vs India huge imbalance. China vs Vietnam, Indonesia, philippines, japan etc etc.

Btw- it costs a lot of money to maintain these weapons. I mean it's quite expensive. .

No shit genius.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

@Slav Defence @Irfan Baloch: I've literally responded to this fool above about 20 times on the SAME topic. Would you please let him know to READ below ONE more time, so he can understand what the hell I meant, so we don't have to derail every thread because his senses to memorize or remember are seriously compromised. As you can see, I am pretty darn frustrated by the SAME rant being repeated when this has been explained.

MilSpec: For the Nth time, (not that its anyone's business), I've got a lot of time under my belt in dealing with Pakistan in multiple ways. I've been to the country for business and pleasure way too many times. Used to go to mountain climbing and still cherish the times I've spent there with locals and the respect and courtesy I received!! So yes, that is my background from Pakistan.

You guys spend billions in lobby right? So consider me a free-lance, unpaid, lobbyist-as-a -hobby for Pakistan just because I respect the niceness and the treatment I got during every trip. I've made many friends here from both, Pakistan and India and they are good people.

Try not to bring this stupid effing question again and derail a thread.
And by the way, wake the hell up and read the anti-Pakistan establishment posts that I write as I am pro-democracy. And my goal is to write the truth so that the people of Pakistan can see another version and opinion on events they deal with, and can start to think straight. My goal is to create awareness and let people understand democracy in depth and global comparisons to build mature thought process about a "system". I am not here to accommodate a fools' paradise (and you live on there too).

You don't have to comment on my posts as you bring low quality to each thread and then its derailed with stupid questions, like in your post above. And now I have to respond by adding more garbage to it. QUALITY posts PLEASE!!

You must work for the Walmart security company MilSpec, as you can't seem to write one quality post. I can't imagine how anyone would want you to write real MilSpecs (Military Specifications)

calm down please. there is no need for personal insults stay cool. and classy


in a related , yet another Pakistani official "after getting retired" tells us how real Haqqani network (currently stationed in USA) stabbed us by paving way for Indian exclusive IAEA membership by stopping Pakistan to oppose it.
there must be a thread running on it already.

I have no grudge with Americans. they do what they see fit for their national interests, they as world policemen see it fit to pressurize a weaker party to mend it ways since they are prepping the stronger party against China in the region. on one hand they have Israeli concerns about our long range ballistic missiles and then they want us to cap and dismantle our low yield, short range tactical nuclear weapons too ... so in effect dismantle the entire program without even a single world about Indian overt aggression , warmongering and military hardware buying frenzy...with or without Indian Lobby's nudging.

we just recently responded to that by conducting a missile test and continuously improving our short range India specific weapon systems that kill the entire Indian cold start circus in its infancy the pressure will continue no doubt but internally and privately they are also convoyed very effectively and convincingly... why we will continue with our nuclear program as we see fit when there is not even a hint from Indian side to lay off.

I have come to know about busting a plan by our agencies on implicating Pakistan by claiming that nuclear material bearing Pakistani signature was going to be used in a dirty bomb attack on American forces in Afghanistan or intercepted on its way to Europe via middle east the leak came from a select foreign media personnels who were already "pre-briefed" to "break" the news of JuD/ Haqqanis, ISI , Hafiz Saeed , Dawood Ibrahim, Klingons, and (-------- fill all that applies) carrying out the attack or attempt to smuggle it. its all hush hush at the moment and might take a while to come out. so yea there are many creative ways being thought out by friends and foes to restrain us