Update of FATF Meeting: Outcomes FATF Plenary, 21-23 February 2018

[Fireurimagination]

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HIGHLIGHTS

• Pakistan will get on to the list from June 2018. They have time until then to make changes in their actions against terror groups
• That is why, Pakistan is not mentioned in the final statement by FATF today but will be put on the list at the next plenary which is in June, sources said.
  what is point of putting Pak on that list in June ? obviously they have given us time otherwise Pakistan would have been put on grey list after this moot... they did the voting and won and are still gonna put us on the list in June .. interesting why wait till June ...

True but that may have happened because the resolution to place Pakistan on list immediately was defeated as China, Saudi and Turkey opposed the move, this was when your FM tweeted about the same. But then US brought second resolution to place Pakistan on the list from June 2018 and successully arm twisted China and Saudi in staying neutral, so you will be on the list from June 2018. Maybe if you can convince US by then something may give way but I am not sure how that works.

 

[RIP Pak LAW]

Oh bhai June mein b Nahi hoga unless we dont compliance regarding fatf regulations. .level of misreporting in this case has been at colossal level. What Khawja Asif tweeted 3 days back has been proven correct completely but he should had not committed the tweet in advance. That was out of diplomatic norms.

 

[Sugarcane]

True but that may have happened because the resolution to place Pakistan on list immediately was defeated as China, Saudi and Turkey opposed the move, this was when your FM tweeted about the same. But then US brought second resolution to place Pakistan on the list from June 2018 and successully arm twisted China and Saudi in staying neutral, so you will be on the list from June 2018. Maybe if you can convince US by then something may give way but I am not sure how that works.

We don't have to convince US (Who is doing it for politics only), all we have to do is take measure to tighten financial control over money laundering and banned outfits so that our supporters have grounds to vote against this potshot again in June. It's as simple as that but one need double digit IQ to understand it.

 

[Fireurimagination]

Oh bhai June mein b Nahi hoga unless we dont compliance regarding fatf regulations. .level of misreporting in this case has been at colossal level. What Khawja Asif tweeted 3 days back has been proven correct completely but he should had not committed the tweet in advance. That was out of diplomatic norms.

In fact I read somewhere that US used the tweet and Pakistan going public even before the official statement as one of the excuses to bring in the second resolution talk about shooting oneself in the foot

We don't have to convince US (Who is doing it for politics only), all we have to do is take measure to tighten financial control over money laundering and banned outfits so that our supporters have grounds to vote against this potshot again in June. It's as simple as that but one need double digit IQ to understand it.

Are you guys this naive? US is probably itself the biggest supporter and funder of banned organisations. It's not about the financial control crap they will implicate you anyways if they want, it's about convincing US that you are taking care of their interests.

 

[Sugarcane]

Are you guys this naive? US is probably itself the biggest supporter and funder of banned organisations. It's not about the financial control crap they will implicate you anyways if they want, it's about convincing US that you are taking care of their interests.

Do you have comprehension problem? I already said US is playing politics, so we know her attention and the pain in her @ss, but she still have to play by rules otherwise she would have succeeded in this session. By June all we have to do is to convince our allies and give them grounds to vote in our favor by improving financial controls.

 

[HAIDER]

India backstab again .....

 

[Fireurimagination]

Do you have comprehension problem? I already said US is playing politics, so we know her attention and the pain in her @ss, but she still have to play by rules otherwise she would have succeeded in this session. By June all we have to do is to convince our allies and give them grounds to vote in our favor by improving financial controls.

Your allies are already convinced that is why they are your allies, the problem here is going against the might of US. Other than China no one can atleast not for long. Why will anyone face losses for you? You don't have to convince others you have to convince US of A.

 

[zeeshangul]

True but that may have happened because the resolution to place Pakistan on list immediately was defeated as China, Saudi and Turkey opposed the move, this was when your FM tweeted about the same. But then US brought second resolution to place Pakistan on the list from June 2018 and successully arm twisted China and Saudi in staying neutral, so you will be on the list from June 2018. Maybe if you can convince US by then something may give way but I am not sure how that works.

Their is no Veto in FATF so US has no absolute power/say . we can get away even without US

 

[Fireurimagination]

Their is no Veto in FATF so US has no absolute power/say . we can get away even without US

If there has been a veto you would have been saved with atleast China, Saudi or Turkey vetoing but with no veto you are gonners as seen in the current meet

 

[Black Mamba1]

One thing is surprising here.. ..pakistani friends are proposing all out diplomatic effort to get support next time..some are hoping that nothing will happen.

Nobody is telling that in these three months Pakistan will leave no stone unturned to comply with FATF rules..which is the root cause. Nobody will give you support for free..they will take their due/undue pound of flesh from your nation's body in return

You can do great marketing for a bad product..but still it will be difficult to sell..make your product good so that it can be sold easily with little marketing (read diplomacy)

Does mr Hafeez worth it ? The whole nation is suffering for few people only....cant understand the strategy of your establishment.

Think realistically and do the cost benifit analysis

 

[khanmubashir]

Read the dawn report shared above, yes Pakistan doesn't feature on the press release and current list as it will be placed in June 2018, your own media and officials have given the said confirmation. Another stick for the US to beat Pakistan with.

Dawn isnt fatf is it
Btw there is like 3-4 month to that meeting and u Indian were dancing that u have included Pakistan onto that list in this session for sure now u r hiding your failure by pointing to some news paper report regarding unknown so called personal claim

 

[Fireurimagination]

Dawn isnt fatf is it
Btw there is like 3-4 month to that meeting and u Indian were dancing that u have included Pakistan onto that list in this session for sure now u r hiding your failure by pointing to some news paper report regarding unknown so called personal claim

India has nothing to do more than perhaps convincing Russia to vote against Pakistan, rest it's all a US show. You can be happy that you are not placed in the list immediately but will be placed after 3 months, we can be happy that you got ditched by China and Saudi.

 

[AZ1]

India has nothing to do more than perhaps convincing Russia to vote against Pakistan, rest it's all a US show. You can be happy that you are not placed in the list immediately but will be placed after 3 months, we can be happy that you got ditched by China and Saudi.

you doesnt look happy. Happy ppl dont jump in other nation forums only lower back burning jealous ppl visit the forum register id and stsrt talking crap to ease their pain and you know that iam right no need to quoteme lol.

 

[Path-Finder]

Pathetic indians and their low life pathetic nature.

 

[khanmubashir]

India has nothing to do more than perhaps convincing Russia to vote against Pakistan, rest it's all a US show. You can be happy that you are not placed in the list immediately but will be placed after 3 months, we can be happy that you got ditched by China and Saudi.

Like we were supposed to b placed in this session result would again b an embracement for Indians

In fact I read somewhere that US used the tweet and Pakistan going public even before the official statement as one of the excuses to bring in the second resolution talk about shooting oneself in the foot



Are you guys this naive? US is probably itself the biggest supporter and funder of banned organisations. It's not about the financial control crap they will implicate you anyways if they want, it's about convincing US that you are taking care of their interests.

Fatf needs majority to do something so if majority r not with em and with trumps USA it is the case we don't need USA nod specifically baby