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Understanding the Kashmir conflict

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The recent killing of an admired Kashmiri Jihadist, Burhan Wani, by Indian security forces, has initiated a new round of violence in the region. The fallout of the latest political turmoil in Kashmir might pose a serious political and security challenge for India.

The roots of the Kashmir conflict go back to the imperial conflicts of the nineteenth century when the British rulers tried to implement a buffer zone between British India and the Tsarist Empire. While the British rulers were able to control Kashmir successfully, they could not make it part of British India. In Pakistan and India’s context, the dispute by and large has remained the same: New Dehli and Islamabad have been trying to control Kashmir for their respective interests while the region remains in defiance and suffering.

While, to some extent, it’s true that external factors and forces have, over the last many decades attempted to inflame the regional insurgency by supporting different Jihadist groups, Indian government’s historic reactionary behaviour of cracking down hard on sporadic violence has kept the resistance narrative alive as a nationalist struggle. India’s inability to win over the local population amicably in the last six decades has turned the militant problem into a dilemma. The dilemma can be termed a “paranoia” where mitigating the local insurgency by calling in a brute force has become more common rather than truly addressing the real issues tied with the regional insurgency.

India likes to call Kashmir its integral part but has never tried to incorporate the region into the state like it has done in other parts of the country. To begin with, the mere presence of a large number of troops in the valley tells the story of a region that has been turned into a fortress. “India’s political mismanagement and repression of Kashmiris, however, seem to have deeply alienated the people in the valley which throws serious doubt on the sustainability of any solution that disregards their aspirations, said Aqil Shah, professor of South Asian Politics at the University of Oklahoma.”

On the other hand, historically, beyond the rhetoric of diplomatic and moral support, the policy makers in Pakistan have never truly supported the Kashmiri struggle whose foundation goes back to the UN passed regulations at the time of partition which demanded certain policy decisions from Pakistan that Islamabad has never implemented. “Under international law, Pakistan and India are both parties to the Kashmir dispute. In 1948-1949, the UN passed several resolutions to settle the question of the princely State’s accession to either country through a plebiscite,” said Shah. He further added that “The UN resolutions on Kashmir (e.g., August 1948,) required Pakistan to withdraw its troops from the area as a precondition for a plebiscite followed by a reduction of Indian troops to a level necessary for keeping order in Kashmir. However, Pakistan obstructed the process by refusing to meet its obligation to demilitarise the area unless India simultaneously withdrew its troops.”

Shah believes that both countries have never been serious about honouring their legal commitments beyond their individual political and security interests: “Basically, neither country was serious about honouring its legal commitments and both have been unwilling to compromise on their entrenched positions since.”

Shah contends that Pakistan’s policy of using religious proxies to settle political scores in Kashmir has actually weakened Pakistan’s stance over the issue. “Despite Pakistan’s tired official rhetoric of extending moral and diplomatic support to the Kashmir struggle, its default policy has been to use/sponsor Jihadi groups, including the designated global terrorist organisation LeT. This policy only helps delegitimise the Kashmiri struggle in the eyes of the international community.”

Shah is of the view that Pakistan’s continued attempts to internationalise the issue by continuing some small level military conflicts with India are actually a reflection of a failed policy. “The lesson from Pakistan’s failed revisionist attempts to wrest Kashmir from India (e.g., 1965, Kargil) is clear: there is no military solution to the conflict. The presence of nuclear weapons means war is really not an option anyway, says Shah.

“The military high command’s apparent patronage of Let, JeM, etc. certainly signal its resolve to keep the pot boiling in Kashmir in the futile hope that the international community will take the bait.”

However, Shah recommends that the only feasible solution to the Kashmir problem is that both India and Pakistan should accept Line of Control as an international border. “It is also clear that India is not going to agree to the redrawing of the LoC. Therefore, the most feasible option for both sides is to accept the LoC as an international border, demilitarise on both sides, and allow the free movement of people, commerce across the border (as envisioned in the Singh-Musharraf non-paper).” Michael Kugelamn, senior associate for South and Southeast Asia at the Woodrow Wilson Center agrees: “Pakistan wants to revisit Kashmir’s status while India believes the matter has long been settled. Pakistani meddling in J&K won’t change anything in that calculus.”

While answering whether any peaceful and bilaterally accepted solution to the Kashmir conflict was possible anytime soon, Kugelman said that “I cannot imagine any resolution any time in the foreseeable future…simply because each side is so far apart on the issue, and India has insisted that any change in Kashmir’s status is effectively impossible and won’t happen.”

Commenting on Pakistan’s blatant intervention in Kashmir, Kugelman contends that “Pakistan wants to criticise Indian tactics not just so the world will pay attention to a flashpoint that it often ignores, but also because it makes India look bad and undercuts the global image that New Delhi fervently wants to sparkle. In this sense, by calling attention to Indian excesses, Pakistan garners two benefits: It gets the world to take notice of Kashmir and it makes India look like the bad guy.” Shah agrees: “The military high command’s apparent patronage of Let, JeM, etc. certainly signal its resolve to keep the pot boiling in Kashmir in the futile hope that the international community will take the bait.”

Above all, disputed political boundaries, particularly Kashmir, are not the only points of discord between India and Pakistan: as long as the concerns of the local population of Kashmir are addressed beyond New Dehli and Islamabad’s bilateral conflict, Kashmir will continue to simmer.

http://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/2016/09/11/features/understanding-the-kashmir-conflict/
 
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Short and sweet

  • India got 1 vote , thinks it owns property , People did not wanted merger (1947) , it is 2016 same problem
  • Pakistan , feels more connection with Kashmiri people culturally and other values Millions of votes

Solution:
India lets Kashmiri people be , becasue issue is about will of people, and they own that land as collection

Forcing the group of people to remain connected by means of force , is against the 1947 gained freedom values. East India company also felt they owned "PROPERTY" called sub continent India back in day and will of people was not important
 
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There is nothing to understand. There is no kashmir conflict. What is there is Bad policies of India due to vote bank. As Air Chief already said the occupied Kashmir by Pak would be under Indian control if military solution was opted.

Any how, first and last post on this thread.

GoodNight!
 
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Indistute state terrorist panel will soon comment here.
 
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  • Pakistan , feels more connection with Kashmiri people culturally and other values Millions of votes


And the reason would be? Kashmir is a muslim majority state?

If that was the case, Bangladesh would be part of Pakistan.

Secondly if Kashmiris would want to be part of Pakistan, come to ground realities, the pro Pakistan slogans are chanted because nothing pisses off Indians more than Pakistani slogans.

Any sane mind would not like to go to Pakistan for Pakistan has nothing to offer. Few paid instigators in a group of people chant out slogans and everyone starts chanting it.

At the end of it, nothing better can come out of it except Pakistan is forcing India to start investing in Pakistan. To Pay in kind.
 
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Short and sweet

  • India got 1 vote , thinks it owns property , People did not wanted merger (1947) , it is 2016 same problem
  • Pakistan , feels more connection with Kashmiri people culturally and other values Millions of votes

Solution:
India lets Kashmiri people be , becasue issue is about will of people, and they own that land as collection

Forcing the group of people to remain connected by means of force , is against the 1947 gained freedom values. East India company also felt they owned "PROPERTY" called sub continent India back in day and will of people was not important

Most Kashmiris live there peacefully, and that includes all the Kashmiris from minority religious groups and minority sects of Islam, as well as majority of Sunni Muslims. The self-proclaimed "Jihadis" and "Mujahidins" can either mend their ways, or can take themselves along with their hate-filled minds corrupted by religious extremism to some other country of their preference. We are increasingly going to be extremely intolerant to such religious extremism.

http://www.business-standard.com/ar...-religious-extremism-govt-116090801256_1.html
 
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BLEED INDIA....India is the bad guy, and voice loud for the independence of Kashmir.
 
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What's there to understand? Group A wants freedom from Group B.
 
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@Indrajit

Son, the reality is, your state has actually had a dumb headed approach of unnecessarily applying force to a problem that could have been addressed otherwise. There has been many a times a fair effort on the part of Pakistan to somehow resolve the issue but it always comes back to square one.

Next time when you really want a sane and practical solution, you must consider the problems of people and the trials they have to go through on day to day basis. You cannot hate people and expect respect in return. This would linger on otherwise and that also to the benefit of none.
 
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Kashmir problem is purely revolve around water, rest is just eyewash. India don't lose the control of water and pakistan want to get control. This is the main issue. For this only so many lives lost in and around Kashmir.
 
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@Indrajit

Son, the reality is, your state has actually had a dumb headed approach of unnecessarily applying force to a problem that could have been addressed otherwise. There has been many a times a fair effort on the part of Pakistan to somehow resolve the issue but it always comes back to square one.

Next time when you really want a sane and practical solution, you must consider the problems of people and the trials they have to go through on day to day basis. You cannot hate people and expect respect in return. This would linger on otherwise and that also to the benefit of none.
Coming from a guy, whose country never hold a free and fair election, and killing and droning tribal people with the help of US. Sorry we don't want to learn so called "sane and practical solution" from you sir. :)
 
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Coming from a guy, whose country never hold a free and fair election, and killing and droning tribal people with the help of US. Sorry we don't want to learn so called "sane and practical solution" from you sir. :)
hearing from a state terrorist panel member whose countrymen killing innocent civilians since 1947, killing thousands of Sikhs. state terrorism continues in nagaland, mizoram, assam, manipur, meghalaya.
yea we need to learn how to kill women and children from you guys.
 
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I'm not a sir, I'm a woman. And Kashmir is a disputed territory. What goes on In your India is also known by everyone, more like mafiosos are running the country and making fun of poor masses. You will not learn like this, time will make you learn.
Coming from a guy, whose country never hold a free and fair election, and killing and droning tribal people with the help of US. Sorry we don't want to learn so called "sane and practical solution" from you sir. :)
 
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Coming from a guy, whose country never hold a free and fair election, and killing and droning tribal people with the help of US. Sorry we don't want to learn so called "sane and practical solution" from you sir. :)

Aha. Your ignorance amuses me. "Free and fair", no elections are ever free and fair, not even in Hindustan. You call terrorists who kill innocent children and civilians in the name of religion, "tribal people"?

With that out of the way, let us talk about you guys, shan't we? Hindustan (or more commonly known as Bharat) is a country with no religous freedom; you treat the muslims, Sikhs and even your own lower castes in humanly and with an unjust hand. I think that the Gujarati massacre proves my analysis. What did Modi say again? Oh yeah, "Let the Hindus vent out their anger"

The separatists in Kashmir have never killed civilians; only soliders and other security personal. As such, this is no terrorism. This is rebellion.
 
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BLEED INDIA....India is the bad guy, and voice loud for the independence of Kashmir.

In reality in that attempt, you are bleeding yourself

What's there to understand? Group A wants freedom from Group B.

What is to be understand is that few cities in few districts is not the whole J&K.

Aha. Your ignorance amuses me. "Free and fair", no elections are ever free and fair, not even in Hindustan. You call terrorists who kill innocent children and civilians in the name of religion, "tribal people"?

With that out of the way, let us talk about you guys, shan't we? Hindustan (or more commonly known as Bharat) is a country with no religous freedom; you treat the muslims, Sikhs and even your own lower castes in humanly and with an unjust hand. I think that the Gujarati massacre proves my analysis. What did Modi say again? Oh yeah, "Let the Hindus vent out their anger"

The separatists in Kashmir have never killed civilians; only soliders and other security personal. As such, this is no terrorism. This is rebellion.

Bullshit, in 15 years, there are 5000 masjids have been build with the money from the Saudi and Pakistan, which are producing the Wahabi ideologist people like Burhan Wani, and GOI haven't checked that. Rest assure, those will be now checked, and days for the Wahabi people are over in the valley because govt. is now going to curb those sponsors, because Kashmiri were always believe in sufism.

The most logical solution is the merger of the P0k with the rest of the J&K, and that time is not too far rest assure.
 
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