Understand the Israeli – Palestinian Apartheid In 11 Images

[Thəorətic Muslim]

The Middle East conflict in one easy lesson

Can you be more specific, or should I just assume you know it's all true but desperately want to pretend otherwise?

Event you have to admit the overt propaganda.

where is this logic when Pakistani use same f16 to bomb own citizens !

War on Terror.

 

[Pangu]

Whatever everyone's opinion about Israel, their nation is born out of blood & fire, with a population of a few million that is quite a miracle considering the enemies they faced.

 

[Falcon29]

they faced holocaust and survived ! they faced combined attack of entire Arabian forces .. they survived and emerged stronger ! while Muslims keep whining !



where is this logic when Pakistani use same f16 to bomb own citizens !

The holocaust has nothing to do with the creation of Jewish State on Palestinian land, and there many points to argue. You have a flawed representation of the conflict, Israel actually went on the offensive against the Arabs. Note 56, 67, late 80-90's against the Palestinians and to this day continue violating international law.

Just because the US prevented international law from taking hold doesn't mean it's right.

 

[500]

A Muslim and Jewish players of Israel's national football team pray before the start of a Euro 2012 qualifier

 

[Falcon29]

Whatever everyone's opinion about Israel, their nation is born out of blood & fire, with a population of a few million that is quite a miracle considering the enemies they faced.

Please tell us what enemies they faced? Only one time in 1948, and the Arabs still had less soldiers on the ground. They were very successful to the point where Israel asked the UN to enforce a ceasefire. Of course we were all expecting the war to end as the UN stated was the purpose of the ceasefire, however, Czechoslovakia was arming Israel to the teeth during this period and Israel went on the offensive breaking the ceasefire.

The Arabs could have regained all the land, although they had a purpose of regaining Palestinian land, not destroying Israel. Other than that, Israel never faced any significant enemy, they went on the offensive from there on.

A Muslim and Jewish players of Israel's national football team pray before the start of a Euro 2012 qualifier

They signed a few Muslim Chechen players and how does that relate to the Israeli/Palestinian conflict in any way?

The response by Israelis was also fascinating:

Israeli football club torched after signing Muslim players - CNN.com

 

[Thəorətic Muslim]

You have a flawed representation of the conflict, Israel actually went on the offensive against the Arabs. Note 56, 67, late 80-90's against the Palestinians and to this day continue violating international law.

56- Nassar Closed Gulf of Aqaba
67- If Israel didn't strike the Arabs would have. Your probably pissed that Israel was more cunning
80-90s- PLO cross border attacks into Israel? So I guess the Saudi-Yemen war was also a violation of Intl Law?

Look you have to admit, there are a$$holes on both sides of the fence.

You got Hamas and Fatah more concerned about fighting each other. Israeli zealots attacking peaceful protesting Palestinians vice versa.

Rockets & Bombs killing innocent people. Whats the point to argue? Its a cycle of violence.

 

[500]

Please tell us what enemies they faced? Only one time in 1948, and the Arabs still had less soldiers on the ground.

For example in 1973, 2 Israeli brigades were surprise attacked by 20 Syrian brigades.

Later Israeli force increased to 10 brigades while Syrian side increased to 24 brigades.

They signed a few Muslim Chechen players and how does that relate to the Israeli/Palestinian conflict in any way?

Chechen players dont play in Israel's national team, he's Israeli Arab.

The response by Israelis was also fascinating:

Israeli football club torched after signing Muslim players - CNN.com

This is one specific private club, known for nationalistic fans. Its like Lazio taking a Jewish player. All other teams have Arab and Muslim players since long time ago, including Israel's national team.

Currently there are 3 Muslims in Israel's national football team (2 Arabs and 1 Circasian).

 

[Falcon29]

56- Nassar Closed Gulf of Aqaba

You're very misinformed on this subject, first of all, the Suez Canal belongs to Egypt. The British-French colonialists wanted to dominate the canal and aid the enemies of Egypt through that. Egypt had legitimate economical, sovereign, and national security concerns.

Nassar wanted to nationalize his canal, the British-French didn't want this even though he offered full economic cooperation. So the Eisenhower administration went to propose a diplomatic solution which offered shared control and once again was rejected by the European colonialists.

Later they along with Israel launched an attack on Egypt without the US being aware of such plans. This outraged the US but also was an act of aggression.

67- If Israel didn't strike the Arabs would have. Your probably pissed that Israel was more cunning

This has no truth to it, nothing was indicating that. It's the opposite, Egypt had gotten intelligence that an imminent Israeli attack was on the way so they moved their forces to the Sinai which alone weren't capable of launching an offensive war. Israel had plans to occupy certain territories as noted before the war. The Arabs had their weapons and aircraft grounded, meaning no such preparations for a war against Israel were taking place, therefore Israel committed a war of aggression.

80-90s- PLO cross border attacks into Israel?

Was legitimate inside the West Bank to remove the occupying power. However, for Lebanon I didn't agree with their whole strategy.

Look you have to admit, there are a$$holes on both sides of the fence.

Both sides made mistakes, including the Palestinians, however the overall issue is centered on one aspect. That is the land grabbing policy of Israel.

You got Hamas and Fatah more concerned about fighting each other. Israeli zealots attacking peaceful protesting Palestinians vice versa.

As far as I know the Palestinians are united and will have a national technocratic government within a week:

Rockets & Bombs killing innocent people. Whats the point to argue? Its a cycle of violence.

Actually, there is a cycle of land grabbing and Israeli assaults on the Gaza Strip, not to mention the active siege of Gaza which is an act of war. The Palestinians in the Gaza Strip only defend their selves through a deterrence with what they have, rockets. No acts of violence take place except when Israel invades the border or when it commits assassinations. There isn't a cycle of violence, there's Israeli politics and resource grabbing of offshore gas. And Gaza makes a tiny portion of Palestine.

Look at the West Bank, it speaks for itself, the active ongoing Israeli policy sees no end until the world makes something out of it and Israel is pressured to end its occupation which will pave way for peace for decades.

For example in 1973, 2 Israeli brigades were surprise attacked by 20 Syrian brigades.

Later Israeli force increased to 10 brigades while Syrian side increased to 24 brigades.

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1973 was a war to regain Egyptian and Syrian land back which Israel occupied since the 1967 war of aggression.

 

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1973 was a war to regain Egyptian and Syrian land back which Israel occupied since the 1967 war of aggression.

They broke cease fire and they would capture everything if they could.

This has no truth to it, nothing was indicating that. It's the opposite, Egypt had gotten intelligence that an imminent Israeli attack was on the way so they moved their forces to the Sinai which alone weren't capable of launching an offensive war. Israel had plans to occupy certain territories as noted before the war. The Arabs had their weapons and aircraft grounded, meaning no such preparations for a war against Israel were taking place, therefore Israel committed a war of aggression.

In 1967 Nasser moved 7 divisions into Sinai, he expelled peacekeepers separating forces. Israel could face them only 3 divisions after mobilization (and Israel cant keep troops mobilized for long).

 

[Falcon29]

They broke cease fire and they would capture everything if they could.

No there wasn't any ceasefire, Israel committed a war of aggression in an attempt to steal Arab land and establish a greater Israel. They even built resorts on Egyptian land, Egypt had no other option than to reacquire their illegally occupied land like any other nation in the world would do.

In 1967 Nasser moved 7 divisions into Sinai, he expelled peacekeepers separating forces. Israel could face them only 3 divisions after mobilization (and Israel cant keep troops mobilized for long).

This was in response to intelligence acquire that an imminent Israeli attack was inevitable. There were already 35,000 troops there, and the 7 divisions made it another 30,000, not feasible for any attack. All other military divisions were not in any preparation of a war. This was a political move and not an act of war, for the sake of Egyptian national security. Israel attacked, they had a plan to attack, suggesting it was planned beforehand.

Israel also attacked Syria and Jordan, occupied Syrian land along with Palestinian land. It would be disingenuous to suggest this was simply an act of defense when all enemy aircraft was grounded. There was no fighting back, because such a plan for war never existed. Which is why the USS Liberty on the second day of the Israeli assault penetrated Israeli communication systems and they were going to relay the information back to the US administration that Israel insists on occupying Arab territory.

So Israel bombed and sank the ship killing dozens of American soldiers.

 

[500]

No there wasn't any ceasefire

Of course there was cease fire. signed on August 7, 1970.

This was in response to intelligence acquire that an imminent Israeli attack was inevitable.

If he was afraid of Israeli attack why he ordered peacekeepers to leave? And why he declared a naval blockade?

Israel also attacked Syria and Jordan, occupied Syrian land along with Palestinian land.

No, they attacked us.

 

[Falcon29]

Of course there was cease fire. signed on August 7, 1970.

You have no argument here, Egypt was fighting for its national interests and the ceasefire would only mean anything if Israel obliged by the UN 242 resolution. However it didn't, and began building on Egyptian land.

If he was afraid of Israeli attack why he ordered peacekeepers to leave? And why he declared a naval blockade?

So he wouldn't aide an Israeli attack against Egypt.

No, they attacked us.

No, they didn't, Israel attacked them well before and invaded the West Bank as well to steal resources and to seize control of the Jordanian river.

 

[500]

You have no argument here, Egypt was fighting for its national interests and the ceasefire would only mean anything if Israel obliged by the UN 242 resolution. However it didn't, and began building on Egyptian land.

5 mins ago u claimed there was no cease fire, now u admit there was cease fire but say that Arabs can break it anytime.

So he wouldn't aide an Israeli attack against Egypt.

LOL

No, they didn't, Israel attacked them well before and invaded the West Bank as well to steal resources and to seize control of the Jordanian river.

No they did, both opened artillery fire and Syria even launched an air strike against Haifa refineries, while Israel was busy with Egypt.

 

[Falcon29]

No they did, both opened artillery fire and Syria even launched an air strike against Haifa refineries, while Israel was busy with Egypt.

After Israel attacked them.

 

[punit]

@Hazzy997 @Aeronaut this guy needs some help.

bring reinforcement!

The holocaust has nothing to do with the creation of Jewish State on Palestinian land, and there many points to argue. You have a flawed representation of the conflict, Israel actually went on the offensive against the Arabs. Note 56, 67, late 80-90's against the Palestinians and to this day continue violating international law.

Just because the US prevented international law from taking hold doesn't mean it's right.

who was offensive in 1948 ( first Arab -israel war ) ! who refused to agree with UN resolution and declared his intention to throw Jews into sea! its just a tiny no of Jews managed to beat the Arabian horses !

Event you have to admit the overt propaganda.


War on Terror.

ur civilians are terrorists !