‘unacceptable’ Kabul calls Pakistan’s decision to expel undocumented Afghan nationals ‘unacceptable’

[VkdIndian]

Afghans should be ruled by Afghans

Is Paksiatn guardian of Afghnaistan? Or did it take the moral responsibility of ensuring just rule, in nations in this region? Both are naive presumptions in international politics and relations.

Your assessment about historical friction between Afghan and Pak is correct. Shouldn’t that have been factored-in while making any decision in this regard?
While stabbing the US in the chest, this should have been factored-in. There was enough time to discuss all these issues with Taliban before they took over Kabul, so as not to get surprises as is happening right now.

Strategic Depth against India has been spoken about many military leaders in Paksiatn. There are enough videos in which they have clearly spelled out this and their expectations in this regard. They were expecting to use Afghan soil as their backyard against India. Has that materialised?

Afghan-Pak has turned out into something that no one would have expected in Paksiatn. It is time for your policy makers to tread very carefully. Any further deterioration in this regard may have far reaching implications and that too negative for your country.

 

[ziaulislam]

any illegal immigrant can be deported.
there is nothing unacceptable in it
even UN cannot push but request pakistan


removing illegal Afghans will create healthy market for pakistan.
labour jobs will increase
street crime will decrease.

they are burden on country

I disagree that street crimes will disappear or even labor market will improve

However I am not against reporting them. It's up to people of Pakistan to decide what they want.

Pakistan terrorism is due to smuggling which is forseen by "we know who"

Pakistan didn't stab US in 'the back'. It was in the front. It was well known that Pakistan was hosting senior Taliban leadership, public denials notwithstanding.

And it was the correct policy for Pakistan: Afghans should be ruled by Afghans! And Americans were unwilling to introduce societal changes beyond token 'liberal' measures. The Twenty years of bombing was enough. Status quo couldn't last long.

The frictions between the current Taliban govt and Pakistan is not that new: During the 1996-2001 Taliban rule in Afghanistan there were even artillery firing between Pakistan and Afghanistan. It is a myth that the Mullah Umar regime was Pakistan's 'puppet'. Far from it. Also, I don't think the current situation is going to get out of hands. I believe long term, even in medium term, the Taliban will realize that it is futile to support a ragtag terrorist group like the TTP against a potential power and partner like Pakistan.

Taliban are well aware that they can loose Afghanistan if they keep alienating Pakistan. Because if Pakistanis switch sides so will Chinese and we will be looking at another civil war in Afghanistan

Currently Pakistan isn't pushing hard ..reasons are multiple including la k of seriousness

 

[Menace2Society]

It's very simple, deport every Afghan and close the border.

 

[Baghial]

Afghan Taliban spokesman Zabihullah Mujahid on Wednesday said Pakistan’s decision to expel undocumented Afghan nationals was “unacceptable” and urged authorities to revisit the policy.

The statement comes a day after the caretaker government gave an ultimatum to all undocumented immigrants, including Afghan nationals, to leave Pakistan by October 31, or risk imprisonment and deportation to their respective countries.

The decision was taken in an apex committee meeting headed by Prime Minister Anwaarul Haq Kakar and attended by the army chief, among others. The committee also decided that movement across the border would be subject to passports and visas, while electronic Afghan identity cards (or e-tazkiras) would only be accepted until Oct 31.

After the passage of the deadline, the authorities would kickstart an operation targeting illegal properties and businesses owned by immigrants or those being run in collaboration with Pakistani nationals.

In a statement posted on social media platform X (erstwhile Twitter) in both Urdu and English today, Mujahid said the treatment of Afghan refugees in Pakistan was unacceptable and authorities should revise their policy in this regard.

“Afghan refugees are not involved in Pakistan’s security problems,” he stated, adding that as long as they leave Pakistan voluntarily, “that country should tolerate them”.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1709475558873252291

The Pakistani Foreign Office has yet to issue a statement on this matter.

Around 1.3 million Afghans are registered refugees in Pakistan and 880,000 more have legal status to remain, according to the latest United Nations figures. However, the government claims that a further 1.7 million Afghans are in Pakistan illegally.

In addition to the Afghan spokesperson’s criticism, the policy announcement has triggered concern from several quarters.

A day earlier, the Afghanistan Embassy in Islamabad accused Punjab and Sindh police of conducting a “ruthless” operation against Afghan refugees, without distinguishing between genders and even arresting women and children.

In a statement posted on X on Tuesday, Afghanistan’s embassy said more than 1,000 Afghans have been detained in the past two weeks — half of them despite having a legal right to be in Pakistan.

In addition, Amnesty International also called outthe Pakistani government for creating a space of ‘fear’ for refugees.

A United Nations official also opposed the deadline. “Any refugee return must be voluntary and without any pressure to ensure protection for those seeking safety,” Qaisar Khan Afridi, an official of the UN High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR) told Anadolu Agency.

He said that the UNHCR was prepared to assist Pakistan in establishing a system for overseeing and recording individuals seeking international protection within its borders and addressing “specific vulnerabilities”.

The discourse comes amid the state’s crackdown on Afghan refugees.






September has seen an alarming rise in the rounding up and detention of Afghan refugees. The government cites illegal immigration and rising crime as the reasons behind the crackdown.

Police and politicians have said a recent round-up targets only those without legal status and is in response to rising crime and poor regulation of immigration that is straining resources. Meanwhile, Afghans say the arrests have been indiscriminate.

Kabul calls Pakistan’s decision to expel undocumented Afghan nationals ‘unacceptable’

Afghan minister Zabihullah Mujahid asks Islamabad to reconsider policy, says Afghan refugees "are not involved in Pakistan's security problems".

www.dawn.com

Afghan transit trade is 7 billion$.

The taliban get only 2 billion.
The rest stays in pak land .

,, the golden egg goose for pak army is goining to get roosted,,

Welldone, hafiz..

 

[Meengla]

Is Paksiatn guardian of Afghnaistan? Or did it take the moral responsibility of ensuring just rule, in nations in this region? Both are naive presumptions in international politics and relations.

It is the UN backed Right of Self Determination! Afghans should be ruled by Afghans. Not by some half-hearted American presence for 20-years which was basically to launder money, especially after Bin Laden' death. It took a Trump to get things going for America. And, again, Pakistan did the right thing by supporting the Taliban: At least there is ONE entity to engage unlike a bunch of factions and that entity is indeed beholden to the Afghan people unlike the Karzais and Ghanis were.

trategic Depth against India has been spoken about many military leaders in Paksiatn. There are enough videos in which they have clearly spelled out this and their expectations in this regard. They were expecting to use Afghan soil as their backyard against India. Has that materialised?

You are living too much in the past. Nobody ever thinks in Pakistan about Afghanistan as 'strategic depth'. Pakistan's strategic depth are its nukes and I don't say that lightly.

Taliban are well aware that they can loose Afghanistan if they keep alienating Pakistan. Because if Pakistanis switch sides so will Chinese and we will be looking at another civil war in Afghanistan

Correct.

Afghan transit trade is 7 billion$.

The taliban get only 2 billion.
The rest stays in pak land .

,, the golden egg goose for pak army is goining to get roosted,,

Welldone, hafiz..

You need to watch a Shabbar Zaidi interview from yesterday; he is saying by merely fixing the abuse of the Afghan Transit Trade--which costs Pakistan (NOT the Generals!!) 6+ billion every year and by reducing the smuggling, Pakistan's economic woes can be '20% fixed'. But there are entrenched traders and business interests in Pakistan who wouldn't want the abuse of the ATT to go away.

 

[ziaulislam]

It is the UN backed Right of Self Determination! Afghans should be ruled by Afghans. Not by some half-hearted American presence for 20-years which was basically to launder money, especially after Bin Laden' death. It took a Trump to get things going for America. And, again, Pakistan did the right thing by supporting the Taliban: At least there is ONE entity to engage unlike a bunch of factions and that entity is indeed beholden to the Afghan people unlike the Karzais and Ghanis were.


You are living too much in the past. Nobody ever thinks in Pakistan about Afghanistan as 'strategic depth'. Pakistan's strategic depth are its nukes and I don't say that lightly.


Correct.


You need to watch a Shabbar Zaidi interview from yesterday; he is saying by merely fixing the abuse of the Afghan Transit Trade--which costs Pakistan (NOT the Generals!!) 6+ billion every year and by reducing the smuggling, Pakistan's economic woes can be '20% fixed'. But there are entrenched traders and business interests in Pakistan who wouldn't want the abuse of the ATT to go away.

You are missing the point

Afghan transit trade and oil smuggling is main source of money for corps commander and whole terrorism is linked to this (no terrorism no deployment no corruption)

 

[Baghial]

You are missing the point

Afghan transit trade and oil smuggling is main source of money for corps commander and whole terrorism is linked to this (no terrorism no deployment no corruption)

At least some one understands , some facts here..

The rest 80 %
Here are conception of dharna,..where evey kanjari , was free.to ride dikks
Then the quoom e youth was born.

 

[Dalit]

Till now the friction between Pakskatn and Taliban was veiled and under the wraps. Both tried to downplay it and claimed it to be a minor misunderstanding.

If it becomes open, then it is Paksiatn that would loose more. Militarily, Paksiatn is much stronger but that would require deployment of significant amount of resources. And it can be a long drawn affair.

So much for the strategic depth for which US was stabbed in the back.

The US/NATO were propping you up in Afghanistan. If they hadn't made that mistake things could have been different.

It was very important to kick India out of Afghanistan. You were using Afghanistan to spread bloodshed in Pakistan.

 

[prothought]

Afghans came to Pakistan because their country was under brutal occupation of foreign powers (first the erstwhile USSR and than USA/Nato). Generations after generations of Afghans saw only the death and destruction in their country. So millions of Afghans found a refuge in Pakistan. And Pakistanis welcomed them with open arms and big hearts. Most of these millions of Afghan refugees now have their third or fourth generation residing in Pakistan.

Now that Afghanistan is being ruled by Afghan Taliban, all of them being Afghans, after the defeat and exit of foreign powers, all Afghan refugees should logically have gone back to their own country. But that is not the case and is not going to happen voluntarily. All these Afghans living in Pakistan are either getting easy money (from the UN sponsored funds) or they have established business in Pakistan. In most cases, these are illegal businesses and in many other cases garve crimes. In fact, these Afghans involved in illegal businesses and crimes are bleeding Pak economy more than any other thing including widespread our domestic corruption. Here are a few examples.

1. Our markets are bustling with foreign items of all types starting from electronics and appliances to clothing and cosmetics to kitchen and bathroom items, you just name it. A few decades ago, one had to travel to Bara market in FATA to buy these items. Now every town and city in Pakistan has an equivalent of Bara market. Where the heck all this stuff comes from? Well, it's due to the massive misuse of Afghan transit trade through Pakistan. Containers coming to Karachi port and meant for Afghan transit trade are emptied in Karachi, Lahore, Pindi, or Peshawar. Only the customs papers/documents would reach the Pak-Afghan border only to get stamped by the corrupt staff there. The situation is bad to such an extent that Afghan traders years ago started bringing massive quantities of stuff from China to Pakistan via roads through Pak-Afghan border. Tens of containers/trucks, for example, come to Lahore's Shah Alami market in the dark of late night, off load the smuggled stuff, and then disappear before the Fajr Azan.

Obviously government of Pakistan loses all custom's duties and taxes that should have been slapped if all this stuff goes through the proper channel. But that loss is nothing as compared to the actual bleeding of our economy. You would ask how? Well all that money that these criminal Afghans get from the traders is converted into dollars by using Hundi or a clandestine local network (dollar mafia) in Pakistan. All those dollars are then moved/smuggled back to Afghanistan. Afghans are the one biggest source of high demand, and resulting scarcity, of dollar in Pakistan. That pushes the Pak rupee down and pulls the dollar up. That is what hurts our economy the most.

2. Afghans have been and still continue buying our grain at massive scale. In fact, in the country-side towns and villages (away from the big cities like Lahore), Afghans buy the crops from poor/needy farmers much before the harvest at very cheap prices by giving the advance amount to them. In many districts, these Afghans are even running networks with tractors and other agri machinery to provide paid services to the farmers, befriend with them, and then exploit that link to buy their crops even before harvest. They smuggle all that grain to Afghanistan and central Asian states. They also buy the grain from grain market agents (i.e. arhties) and there have been reportedly so many cases where these Afghans disappeared after getting the truck-loads of grain from them and sending those trucks back to Afghanistan. This Afghan cancer has spread deep inside our system and bleeding us ruthlessly.

3. It is a well known fact that Afghans smuggle drugs/narco stuff into Pakistan. There is a whole network for distribution of these drugs/narco to Pakistanis (including students in our schools, colleges, and universities) throughput Pakistan. The most of the backbone network consists of Afghans who have a cover of being Afghan refugee in Pakistan. We have seen the reports of Afghan criminal gangs operative in big cities, especially Karachi, Peshawar, and even in Islamabad.

4. There is a solid nexus between a big big mafia in Pakistan, i.e. gambling mafia, and Afghans. Reportedly billions of dollars in gambling money are smuggled from Pakistan either directly to Dubai or through Afghanistan. This is probably the second biggest cause (the first being the smuggling through Afghan transit trade) of shortage of US dollars in Pakistan.

5. Afghan terrorists exploding themselves in Pakistani mosques and markets, schools and parks is almost a routine in Pakistanis life. This curse will be there until we hit where it hurts the most, i.e. bleed those powers who are actively supporting, training, and sending these Afghan terrorists into Pakistan.

One can go on and on. In short, these Afghans have proved to be a lanat for us all Pakistanis. We respect and support the Islamic government in Afghanistan but these Afghan smugglers, criminals and terrorists must be dealt with iron fist.

One must be thinking how these Afghans are able to do all that is listed above (and actually much more)? Where is the state machinery, law enforcement agencies, government departments, and so on? Well, most, if not all, concerned people have so far acted like greedy dogs. Afghans throw a shitty bone in front of these filthy dogs (and those Afghan smugglers are capable of throwing a really big bone) and these dogs close their eyes and start waving their tail. General Papa Jones is just one small example of these haram-khores.

I got encourages to write these lines only by the actions of the current military leadership. This leadership seems to be serious and means business. That's why dollar is slowly climbing down. Finally, I would like to point out one thing that merely stopping and searching trucks at the border crossings is not a permanent solution. It'll definitely fail. Arresting and punishing those involved (i.e. smugglers, traders, custom's babus, sentries at the border-crossings, officers responsible for stopping smuggling) must be investigated and guilty ones must be severely punished and made a sorrowful example for others. These greedy dogs deserve no mercy at all for all the bleeding that they have caused to this nation.

 

[mangochutney]

Afghan Taliban spokesman Zabihullah Mujahid on Wednesday said Pakistan’s decision to expel undocumented Afghan nationals was “unacceptable” and urged authorities to revisit the policy.

The statement comes a day after the caretaker government gave an ultimatum to all undocumented immigrants, including Afghan nationals, to leave Pakistan by October 31, or risk imprisonment and deportation to their respective countries.

The decision was taken in an apex committee meeting headed by Prime Minister Anwaarul Haq Kakar and attended by the army chief, among others. The committee also decided that movement across the border would be subject to passports and visas, while electronic Afghan identity cards (or e-tazkiras) would only be accepted until Oct 31.

After the passage of the deadline, the authorities would kickstart an operation targeting illegal properties and businesses owned by immigrants or those being run in collaboration with Pakistani nationals.

In a statement posted on social media platform X (erstwhile Twitter) in both Urdu and English today, Mujahid said the treatment of Afghan refugees in Pakistan was unacceptable and authorities should revise their policy in this regard.

“Afghan refugees are not involved in Pakistan’s security problems,” he stated, adding that as long as they leave Pakistan voluntarily, “that country should tolerate them”.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1709475558873252291

The Pakistani Foreign Office has yet to issue a statement on this matter.

Around 1.3 million Afghans are registered refugees in Pakistan and 880,000 more have legal status to remain, according to the latest United Nations figures. However, the government claims that a further 1.7 million Afghans are in Pakistan illegally.

In addition to the Afghan spokesperson’s criticism, the policy announcement has triggered concern from several quarters.

A day earlier, the Afghanistan Embassy in Islamabad accused Punjab and Sindh police of conducting a “ruthless” operation against Afghan refugees, without distinguishing between genders and even arresting women and children.

In a statement posted on X on Tuesday, Afghanistan’s embassy said more than 1,000 Afghans have been detained in the past two weeks — half of them despite having a legal right to be in Pakistan.

In addition, Amnesty International also called outthe Pakistani government for creating a space of ‘fear’ for refugees.

A United Nations official also opposed the deadline. “Any refugee return must be voluntary and without any pressure to ensure protection for those seeking safety,” Qaisar Khan Afridi, an official of the UN High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR) told Anadolu Agency.

He said that the UNHCR was prepared to assist Pakistan in establishing a system for overseeing and recording individuals seeking international protection within its borders and addressing “specific vulnerabilities”.

The discourse comes amid the state’s crackdown on Afghan refugees.






September has seen an alarming rise in the rounding up and detention of Afghan refugees. The government cites illegal immigration and rising crime as the reasons behind the crackdown.

Police and politicians have said a recent round-up targets only those without legal status and is in response to rising crime and poor regulation of immigration that is straining resources. Meanwhile, Afghans say the arrests have been indiscriminate.

Kabul calls Pakistan’s decision to expel undocumented Afghan nationals ‘unacceptable’

Afghan minister Zabihullah Mujahid asks Islamabad to reconsider policy, says Afghan refugees "are not involved in Pakistan's security problems".

www.dawn.com

This mitherfuckers obsessed with us Pakistanis the slumdwelling street shitting 4ft 5 stone weak bastard

I guarantee you he fantasises about his sister , mother , auntie as he has no woman nor life fuck1ng Pakistanis to get off .

No life motherfucking Indian bastard

 

[delta2]

The US/NATO were propping you up in Afghanistan. If they hadn't made that mistake things could have been different.

It was very important to kick India out of Afghanistan. You were using Afghanistan to spread bloodshed in Pakistan.

One major factor that caused the USA to finally decide to leave Afghanistan was India's incompetence and failure. These low iq apes squandered a golden opportunity to deal a massive blow to Pakistan because they failed to see the bigger picture. They also lost miserably to the Pakistani intelligence agencies' strategies because they are incapable of thinking beyong the IQ range of 74!!

India's mediocre role and abysmal failure in Afghanistan during the American occupation deserves a deeper study and detalied analysis.

The USA is still present in Japan, Germany and South Korea despite the populations of those countries being very desciplined, martial and militaristic, with great histories and high IQs.

Currently the Pakistani establishment is still going through the high of the great unexpexted, well expected in some ways, withdrawal from Afghanistan of unwelcomed entities. Hopefully the current economic issues will knock some sense into their brains.

 

[Clutch]

I wonder who in pakistan will support the corrupt Pakistani haramkhoor Generals in their war if Afghanistan decides to invade???... my guess is the poor slave soldiers will be shot from both sides...

• I wonder how many pakistani soldiers will die for the Generals Sahibs DHA plot and American Green Cards for the Whisky COAS Children??...
• 
  
• and of course nobody wants to die for the Dirty Stinky Maryam London properties... and her Corrupt Nawaz and his flats in Avenfield Apartments #16, #16-A, #17, #17-A.
• 
  
• nobody wants to die for Jahil Mullahs Diesel... Nobody wants to Die for 10% Zardari and his Gay Boy... who? Why??

 

[Meengla]

Afghans came to Pakistan because their country was under brutal occupation of foreign powers (first the erstwhile USSR and than USA/Nato). Generations after generations of Afghans saw only the death and destruction in their country. So millions of Afghans found a refuge in Pakistan. And Pakistanis welcomed them with open arms and big hearts. Most of these millions of Afghan refugees now have their third or fourth generation residing in Pakistan.

Now that Afghanistan is being ruled by Afghan Taliban, all of them being Afghans, after the defeat and exit of foreign powers, all Afghan refugees should logically have gone back to their own country. But that is not the case and is not going to happen voluntarily. All these Afghans living in Pakistan are either getting easy money (from the UN sponsored funds) or they have established business in Pakistan. In most cases, these are illegal businesses and in many other cases garve crimes. In fact, these Afghans involved in illegal businesses and crimes are bleeding Pak economy more than any other thing including widespread our domestic corruption. Here are a few examples.

1. Our markets are bustling with foreign items of all types starting from electronics and appliances to clothing and cosmetics to kitchen and bathroom items, you just name it. A few decades ago, one had to travel to Bara market in FATA to buy these items. Now every town and city in Pakistan has an equivalent of Bara market. Where the heck all this stuff comes from? Well, it's due to the massive misuse of Afghan transit trade through Pakistan. Containers coming to Karachi port and meant for Afghan transit trade are emptied in Karachi, Lahore, Pindi, or Peshawar. Only the customs papers/documents would reach the Pak-Afghan border only to get stamped by the corrupt staff there. The situation is bad to such an extent that Afghan traders years ago started bringing massive quantities of stuff from China to Pakistan via roads through Pak-Afghan border. Tens of containers/trucks, for example, come to Lahore's Shah Alami market in the dark of late night, off load the smuggled stuff, and then disappear before the Fajr Azan.

Obviously government of Pakistan loses all custom's duties and taxes that should have been slapped if all this stuff goes through the proper channel. But that loss is nothing as compared to the actual bleeding of our economy. You would ask how? Well all that money that these criminal Afghans get from the traders is converted into dollars by using Hundi or a clandestine local network (dollar mafia) in Pakistan. All those dollars are then moved/smuggled back to Afghanistan. Afghans are the one biggest source of high demand, and resulting scarcity, of dollar in Pakistan. That pushes the Pak rupee down and pulls the dollar up. That is what hurts our economy the most.

2. Afghans have been and still continue buying our grain at massive scale. In fact, in the country-side towns and villages (away from the big cities like Lahore), Afghans buy the crops from poor/needy farmers much before the harvest at very cheap prices by giving the advance amount to them. In many districts, these Afghans are even running networks with tractors and other agri machinery to provide paid services to the farmers, befriend with them, and then exploit that link to buy their crops even before harvest. They smuggle all that grain to Afghanistan and central Asian states. They also buy the grain from grain market agents (i.e. arhties) and there have been reportedly so many cases where these Afghans disappeared after getting the truck-loads of grain from them and sending those trucks back to Afghanistan. This Afghan cancer has spread deep inside our system and bleeding us ruthlessly.

3. It is a well known fact that Afghans smuggle drugs/narco stuff into Pakistan. There is a whole network for distribution of these drugs/narco to Pakistanis (including students in our schools, colleges, and universities) throughput Pakistan. The most of the backbone network consists of Afghans who have a cover of being Afghan refugee in Pakistan. We have seen the reports of Afghan criminal gangs operative in big cities, especially Karachi, Peshawar, and even in Islamabad.

4. There is a solid nexus between a big big mafia in Pakistan, i.e. gambling mafia, and Afghans. Reportedly billions of dollars in gambling money are smuggled from Pakistan either directly to Dubai or through Afghanistan. This is probably the second biggest cause (the first being the smuggling through Afghan transit trade) of shortage of US dollars in Pakistan.

5. Afghan terrorists exploding themselves in Pakistani mosques and markets, schools and parks is almost a routine in Pakistanis life. This curse will be there until we hit where it hurts the most, i.e. bleed those powers who are actively supporting, training, and sending these Afghan terrorists into Pakistan.

One can go on and on. In short, these Afghans have proved to be a lanat for us all Pakistanis. We respect and support the Islamic government in Afghanistan but these Afghan smugglers, criminals and terrorists must be dealt with iron fist.

One must be thinking how these Afghans are able to do all that is listed above (and actually much more)? Where is the state machinery, law enforcement agencies, government departments, and so on? Well, most, if not all, concerned people have so far acted like greedy dogs. Afghans throw a shitty bone in front of these filthy dogs (and those Afghan smugglers are capable of throwing a really big bone) and these dogs close their eyes and start waving their tail. General Papa Jones is just one small example of these haram-khores.

I got encourages to write these lines only by the actions of the current military leadership. This leadership seems to be serious and means business. That's why dollar is slowly climbing down. Finally, I would like to point out one thing that merely stopping and searching trucks at the border crossings is not a permanent solution. It'll definitely fail. Arresting and punishing those involved (i.e. smugglers, traders, custom's babus, sentries at the border-crossings, officers responsible for stopping smuggling) must be investigated and guilty ones must be severely punished and made a sorrowful example for others. These greedy dogs deserve no mercy at all for all the bleeding that they have caused to this nation.

Excellent post!!
And I agree with you about the intention of the military leadership to fix the economy: They know Pakistan can't afford anymore screw ups because an abyss is facing Pakistan otherwise and so they now HAVE to act. No political govt could take on the entrenched mafias before. Under Imran, FBR had tried some but many politicians ganged up against corrective measures. Pakistanis should be grateful that there is at least once force which can credibly put brakes on the decline--look at Argentina, a far more naturally endowed country--and look at where it is now? That's just one example!

And I absolutely don't agree with the assertions made by others than ATT is '80%' benefiting the Generals. If so, then why was Mr. Haqeeqi Inqalabi Khan not taking them on?Yes, there are some security forces always on the take but they are generally mid/lower level ones. You saw, how in between the lines of the interview, that Indian father-son duo made it from Spin B. Afghanistan to Chaman and then to Quetta and then passed through a gauntlet of security posts to Karachi?!! That's the kind of security forces corruption and they have their counter parts in traders lobbies and those lobbies have backers in the political parties.
Again, watch not only the Shabbar Zaidi interview but also I think there some others recently about how the abuse of ATT is bleeding Pakistan $6+ billion a year.

 

[maithil]

Hope Pakistan completes this. Very positive step.

 

[ziaulislam]

Afghans came to Pakistan because their country was under brutal occupation of foreign powers (first the erstwhile USSR and than USA/Nato). Generations after generations of Afghans saw only the death and destruction in their country. So millions of Afghans found a refuge in Pakistan. And Pakistanis welcomed them with open arms and big hearts. Most of these millions of Afghan refugees now have their third or fourth generation residing in Pakistan.

Now that Afghanistan is being ruled by Afghan Taliban, all of them being Afghans, after the defeat and exit of foreign powers, all Afghan refugees should logically have gone back to their own country. But that is not the case and is not going to happen voluntarily. All these Afghans living in Pakistan are either getting easy money (from the UN sponsored funds) or they have established business in Pakistan. In most cases, these are illegal businesses and in many other cases garve crimes. In fact, these Afghans involved in illegal businesses and crimes are bleeding Pak economy more than any other thing including widespread our domestic corruption. Here are a few examples.

1. Our markets are bustling with foreign items of all types starting from electronics and appliances to clothing and cosmetics to kitchen and bathroom items, you just name it. A few decades ago, one had to travel to Bara market in FATA to buy these items. Now every town and city in Pakistan has an equivalent of Bara market. Where the heck all this stuff comes from? Well, it's due to the massive misuse of Afghan transit trade through Pakistan. Containers coming to Karachi port and meant for Afghan transit trade are emptied in Karachi, Lahore, Pindi, or Peshawar. Only the customs papers/documents would reach the Pak-Afghan border only to get stamped by the corrupt staff there. The situation is bad to such an extent that Afghan traders years ago started bringing massive quantities of stuff from China to Pakistan via roads through Pak-Afghan border. Tens of containers/trucks, for example, come to Lahore's Shah Alami market in the dark of late night, off load the smuggled stuff, and then disappear before the Fajr Azan.

Obviously government of Pakistan loses all custom's duties and taxes that should have been slapped if all this stuff goes through the proper channel. But that loss is nothing as compared to the actual bleeding of our economy. You would ask how? Well all that money that these criminal Afghans get from the traders is converted into dollars by using Hundi or a clandestine local network (dollar mafia) in Pakistan. All those dollars are then moved/smuggled back to Afghanistan. Afghans are the one biggest source of high demand, and resulting scarcity, of dollar in Pakistan. That pushes the Pak rupee down and pulls the dollar up. That is what hurts our economy the most.

2. Afghans have been and still continue buying our grain at massive scale. In fact, in the country-side towns and villages (away from the big cities like Lahore), Afghans buy the crops from poor/needy farmers much before the harvest at very cheap prices by giving the advance amount to them. In many districts, these Afghans are even running networks with tractors and other agri machinery to provide paid services to the farmers, befriend with them, and then exploit that link to buy their crops even before harvest. They smuggle all that grain to Afghanistan and central Asian states. They also buy the grain from grain market agents (i.e. arhties) and there have been reportedly so many cases where these Afghans disappeared after getting the truck-loads of grain from them and sending those trucks back to Afghanistan. This Afghan cancer has spread deep inside our system and bleeding us ruthlessly.

3. It is a well known fact that Afghans smuggle drugs/narco stuff into Pakistan. There is a whole network for distribution of these drugs/narco to Pakistanis (including students in our schools, colleges, and universities) throughput Pakistan. The most of the backbone network consists of Afghans who have a cover of being Afghan refugee in Pakistan. We have seen the reports of Afghan criminal gangs operative in big cities, especially Karachi, Peshawar, and even in Islamabad.

4. There is a solid nexus between a big big mafia in Pakistan, i.e. gambling mafia, and Afghans. Reportedly billions of dollars in gambling money are smuggled from Pakistan either directly to Dubai or through Afghanistan. This is probably the second biggest cause (the first being the smuggling through Afghan transit trade) of shortage of US dollars in Pakistan.

5. Afghan terrorists exploding themselves in Pakistani mosques and markets, schools and parks is almost a routine in Pakistanis life. This curse will be there until we hit where it hurts the most, i.e. bleed those powers who are actively supporting, training, and sending these Afghan terrorists into Pakistan.

One can go on and on. In short, these Afghans have proved to be a lanat for us all Pakistanis. We respect and support the Islamic government in Afghanistan but these Afghan smugglers, criminals and terrorists must be dealt with iron fist.

One must be thinking how these Afghans are able to do all that is listed above (and actually much more)? Where is the state machinery, law enforcement agencies, government departments, and so on? Well, most, if not all, concerned people have so far acted like greedy dogs. Afghans throw a shitty bone in front of these filthy dogs (and those Afghan smugglers are capable of throwing a really big bone) and these dogs close their eyes and start waving their tail. General Papa Jones is just one small example of these haram-khores.

I got encourages to write these lines only by the actions of the current military leadership. This leadership seems to be serious and means business. That's why dollar is slowly climbing down. Finally, I would like to point out one thing that merely stopping and searching trucks at the border crossings is not a permanent solution. It'll definitely fail. Arresting and punishing those involved (i.e. smugglers, traders, custom's babus, sentries at the border-crossings, officers responsible for stopping smuggling) must be investigated and guilty ones must be severely punished and made a sorrowful example for others. These greedy dogs deserve no mercy at all for all the bleeding that they have caused to this nation.

Agree with one addition
They pay their fair dues to one entity who controls the borders

I.e Pakistan army

Extortion
Abduction
Smuggling
Transportation
Retail

They dominate these fields and pay appropriately to people assisting them

You guess who

Hence why nothing will change and this is drama