UN: North Korea may be capable of putting nuclear devices on ballistic missiles

[PeaceGen]

Firstly, if you read my signature you will find me a anti-military anti-war person.

Secondly, I am not in support of the Indian Establishment in its continuation of the approx 700,000 soldiers in Kashmir. In my humble way I have written a solution to the India-Pakistan rivalry especially the Kashmir issue. You can read it in this thread.



USA, a two-party capitalist dictatorship with many homeless people invaded Libya which was a democracy with no homeless people. Look at the current state of Libya after the 2011 invasion by NATO and its thousands of proxy fighters. What was substantial about the 2011 war ?



Freedom from what ?



Rapes in India I believe are to do with not only a sexually repressed culture but also of males who are not disciplined enough.



I am a Muslim and a socialist who has nothing to do with the caste system. And you will find Hindu progressives like the former student leader Kanhaiya Kumar who want freedom against the Brahminical tyranny which promotes caste system.

https://theecologist.org/2016/mar/1...n-gold-oil-and-challenge-monetary-imperialism

Qaddaffi was never much about democracy, and the US is. Qaddaffi tried to mint his own gold coins, which would have upset the entire world economy, and make him the effective ruler of the monetary system of much of Africa and the Middle East.

We had every right and need to remove that idiot from power by force. His people were left divided to ensure none of Qaddaffi's lieutenants try the same trick.

And to your question 'freedom from what?', i offer this answer :
freedom from oppression, freedom from covert bio-wars, freedom from police states, freedom of speech, freedom to vote, freedom to pray as you want, etc, etc, etc.
All of the things that you wouldn't get in nations like China, North-Korea or Iran.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Japan was never going to quit it's WW2 activities without getting nuked. We had to nuke it TWICE to convince it to surrender.
That saved many many lives, Japanese lives too.

As for your other claim : where's your evidence? Let's go over all of it.

The Iraqis, Afghans, Vietnamese, African Slave Trade victims, Red Indians and many others have all the evidence you could ever possibly want..........................

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

You need treatment in a mental hospital.

Because I insinuated that the North Koreans should be able to defend themselves against american genocide?...........

 

[PeaceGen]

Because I insinuated that the North Koreans should be able to defend themselves against american genocide?...........

yeah. you make totally crazy and baseless accusations. go seek professional help instead of cheering on dictators on public forums, please.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

yeah. you make totally crazy and baseless accusations. go seek professional help instead of cheering on dictators on public forums, please.

Which accusations were baseless? Which dictator did I cheer?

 

[PeaceGen]

Which accusations were baseless? Which dictator did I cheer?

here you are proving the point i made about you.

you accused the US of genocide,
and you cheered the North Korean leadership, which is clearly run by a dictatorial family.

 

[jamahir]

Qaddaffi was never much about democracy, and the US is.

Gaddafi was very much about democracy which in Libya was enabled by the Direct Democracy Socialism system called Jamahiriya aka The Third Universal Theory which as the name says can be applied to any society. Your own source has this :

Education and medical treatment were free; having a home was considered a human right; and Libyans participated in an original system of local democracy. The country boasted the world's largest irrigation system, the Great Man-made River project, which brought water from the desert to the cities and coastal areas; and Qaddafi was embarking on a program to spread this model throughout Africa.

You can read the details of Jamahiriya Theory here. And you should read this thread by our Chinese friend @TaiShang from 2015.

Qaddaffi tried to mint his own gold coins, which would have upset the entire world economy, and make him the effective ruler of the monetary system of much of Africa and the Middle East.

His economic ideas were part of the invasion reasons.

We had every right and need to remove that idiot from power by force.

The man you call idiot was a wise man who had plans for new economic order, which you spoke of, but also things like the United States of Africa and support for progressive movements across the world. The first foreign trip that Mandela made after his jail release was to Libya to meet Gaddafi.

All of the things that you wouldn't get in nations like China, North-Korea or Iran.

I desire for China and North Korea to turn from being single-party dictatorships or family rule to Direct Democracy Socialism like in pre-2011 Libya. For theocratic Iran too the same.

 

[PeaceGen]

Gaddafi was very much about democracy which in Libya was enabled by the Direct Democracy Socialism system called Jamahiriya aka The Third Universal Theory which as the name says can be applied to any society. Your own source has this :

You can read the details of Jamahiriya Theory here. And you should read this thread by our Chinese friend @TaiShang from 2015.



His economic ideas were part of the invasion reasons.



The man you call idiot was a wise man who had plans for new economic order, which you spoke of, but also things like the United States of Africa and support for progressive movements across the world. The first foreign trip that Mandela made after his jail release was to Libya to meet Gaddafi.



I desire for China and North Korea to turn from being single-party dictatorships or family rule to Direct Democracy Socialism like in pre-2011 Libya. For theocratic Iran too the same.

every single time socialism was implemented as a form of government, the people in such countries enjoyed a few years of the promised riches, and then fell into severe economic hardship.

the current example of that is Venezuela.

 

[jamahir]

every single time socialism was implemented as a form of government, the people in such countries enjoyed a few years of the promised riches, and then fell into severe economic hardship.

Libyans enjoyed until the 2011 subversion by NATO.

the current example of that is Venezuela.

Venezuelans generally did good under the late Chavez who adapted the Libyan political-economic model to Venezuelan conditions.

Right from my time of membership on this forum I said that after Libya and Syria the next stop for NATO subversion would be Venezuela. And that's how it turned out.

 

[PeaceGen]

Libyans enjoyed until the 2011 subversion by NATO.



Venezuelans generally did good under the late Chavez who adapted the Libyan political-economic model to Venezuelan conditions.

Right from my time of membership on this forum I said that after Libya and Syria the next stop for NATO subversion would be Venezuela. And that's how it turned out.

now you're misrepresenting the facts.

under socialism, the populations are promised extensive government-run welfare programs, but such governments always hide the fact that they have no real way to pay the expenses of such programs.

so they resort to printing money, or minting gold coins to draw in foreign investments, to extend their own rule by granting the people a few more years of government-funded luxuries.

ultimately, it is the fact that there is no income base for such socialist governments, that causes their collapse.

libya was the exception to that case because Gadaffi threatened to upset the entire world's gold economy by minting his own coins and starting a grandiose 'United African States' project (which was sure to be yet another sham within a few years or a few decades at most).

responsible capitalist democracies like you find in North America and Western Europe, have proven themselves stable for centuries now.

and yes, we defend our rights to continue our own way of life in our own way, with our militaries.
the fact that we do so with much success proves everything i've been trying to explain to you and the other readers here today.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

here you are proving the point i made about you.

you accused the US of genocide,
and you cheered the North Korean leadership, which is clearly run by a dictatorial family.

I said WELL DONE NORTH KOREA, Not well done North Korean leadership..........

Are you SERIOUSLY suggesting that america has never committed genocide?.........

 

[PeaceGen]

I said WELL DONE NORTH KOREA, Not well done North Korean leadership..........

Are you SERIOUSLY suggesting that america has never committed genocide?.........

pfff, your foolishness is getting bothersome, dude..

to congratulate North Korea about nuclear weapons development is CLEARLY the same as congratulating the dictatorial family and other leaders that run that country.

and yes, i'm definitely saying that America has never committed genocide. PROVE IT, if you want to convince me.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

pfff, your foolishness is getting bothersome, dude..

to congratulate North Korea about nuclear weapons development is CLEARLY the same as congratulating the dictatorial family and other leaders that run that country.

and yes, i'm definitely saying that America has never committed genocide. PROVE IT, if you want to convince me.

So Kim Jung-Un and his regime are representative of ALL North Korean people?.....................is trump respresentative of every american person too?


Did the americans ever kill any civilians in Iraq, Afghanistan or Vietnam? Do you honestly believe that?

PS Is Kim Jung-Un responsible for the invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan and the deaths of millions of innocent men, women and children in those countries?

 

[Feng Leng]

tell me this please, how are we supposed to trust nations like Iran and North-Korea and China when they're armed with nuclear ICBMs?

in my view, this will only lead to an increase in tensions.
is this what this alliance of China and North Korea and Iran want?
why?

Just accept your nuking and make peace with your maker. That's all.

pfff, your foolishness is getting bothersome, dude..

to congratulate North Korea about nuclear weapons development is CLEARLY the same as congratulating the dictatorial family and other leaders that run that country.

and yes, i'm definitely saying that America has never committed genocide. PROVE IT, if you want to convince me.

LOL white people killed the indigenous population and took their land. The white people should give America back to the indigenous peoplel.

 

[Ich]

UN: North Korea may be capable of putting nuclear devices on ballistic missiles - ABC News

1. UN: North Korea may be capable of putting nuclear devices on ballistic missiles ABC News
2. North Korea has likely developed mini nukes to fit into warheads of ballistic missiles: report Fox News
3. North Korea has 'probably' developed nuclear devices,, U.N. report says Reuters
4. North Korea's work on nuclear weapons includes 'miniaturized' devices, UN report says CNN
5. New North Korea ICBM Report Suggests Pyongyang Can Hit U.S. With Nukes Newsweek
6. View Full Coverage on Google News

Local : 2020-08-05(Wednesday) 03:57:50
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well, this proves to me that there is little to no advantage to negotiations with dictators.

feel free to prove me wrong.

This is really old news. You can see it in the pic below what is from 2016. Also you can see that no other country has this design.