UN: North Korea may be capable of putting nuclear devices on ballistic missiles

[FairAndUnbiased]

tell me this please, how are we supposed to trust nations like Iran and North-Korea and China when they're armed with nuclear ICBMs?

in my view, this will only lead to an increase in tensions.
is this what this alliance of China and North Korea and Iran want?
why?

Chinese are tired of having to justify our existence. We will defend our existence with any means necessary. The rights and freedoms of others are secondary to securing our right to live, which is under imminent threat by your kind.

If you could get away with it, you'd all be Nazis against Chinese. This has already been proven in the Qing Dynasty. We say to you, never again.

North Koreans also will defend their existence by any means necessary.

 

[BHAN85]

UN: North Korea may be capable of putting nuclear devices on ballistic missiles - ABC News
Local : 2020-08-05(Wednesday) 03:57:50
Found via nicer.app/news

well, this proves to me that there is little to no advantage to negotiations with dictators.

feel free to prove me wrong.

I dont believe a thing.
NK has not miniaturised nukes, there is a technical great jump between a nuclear bomb and a miniaturised nuclear bomb.
I think the detonator is absolutely different, and that is what made possible the nuclear sharing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_sharing

i.e. even if you dismount a miniaturised nuke, you can not trigger it without the codes, but if you dismount NK nuke, you can trigger it.

 

[thewayoftheworld]

tell me this please, how are we supposed to trust nations like Iran and North-Korea and China when they're armed with nuclear ICBMs?

in my view, this will only lead to an increase in tensions.
is this what this alliance of China and North Korea and Iran want?
why?

Peace allows for development. Development allows for change. All Iran, China, and NK have not invade any countries. Isn't it ironic you say how can you trust them, but Anglo-American world has bombed and invade multiple countries in last 20 years, but you can trust them? I think the whole world watch too many Hollywood movies

 

[BHAN85]

Peace allows for development. Development allows for change. All Iran, China, and NK have not invade any countries. Isn't it ironic you say how can you trust them, but Anglo-American world has bombed and invade multiple countries in last 20 years, but you can trust them? I think the whole world watch too many Hollywood movies

In which kind of person do u will trust more to give her a gun? in a poor one or in a rich one?
The rich wont use the gun to steal, because he's already rich.

The same with countries.

 

[925boy]

We......YEAHHH......especially after ALL THE HELP China has given North Korea......so yea, the is intl community admitting that North Korea is now formally a mobile nuclear ICBM capable state.....and they achieved this under strooong US and UN sanctions...so they only survived due to China....In my opinion, China sees North Korea as its proxy with "serious teeth"....

 

[BHAN85]

We......YEAHHH......especially after ALL THE HELP China has given North Korea......so yea, the is intl community admitting that North Korea is now formally a mobile nuclear ICBM capable state.....and they achieved this under strooong US and UN sanctions...so they only survived due to China....In my opinion, China sees North Korea as its proxy with "serious teeth"....

In my opinion China see NK as a large amount of starving people that will invade China if they starve even more than now.
That's the relationship between China and NK, only that.

 

[vishwambhar]

@Figaro

North Korea already tested Hwasong-15, demonstrating a road mobile ICBM with 13000 km range. Even though it has liquid fuel, they use the same stable fuel mix as Russian SLBMs, which is stable and can be kept in storage. In addition their most recent nuclear test was of a miniaturized 250 kT fusion boosted device.

That is to say, North Korea's nuclear deterrence has already exceeded that of India's, which has the Agni-V as the longest range missile at merely 5000 km and 45 kT as largest test. India is weaker than North Korea.

Further proof: Agni-V is smaller than Hwasong-15 (50000 kg vs 72000 kg, 17.5 m vs. 22.5 m length).

You are right that India is weaker than North Korea as they have longer range ICBMs which can easily reach India with nuclear warheads and in return India doesn't have a range of missiles to hit back north Korea..... but it will change once India develops Agni 6 we will have range to hit NK.....

 

[Feng Leng]

In which kind of person do u will trust more to give her a gun? in a poor one or in a rich one?
The rich wont use the gun to steal, because he's already rich.

The same with countries.

LOL you give the gun to the Chinese person because we will use it to destroy our evil enemies.

 

[PeaceGen]

well, you people got this thread fully distracted now into a discussion about which type of leadership has caused more grief to the world.

instead of recognizing the flaws of your own favorite governments (China, North-Korea, Taliban, Iran, etc, etc),
you blame the NATO governments for all that is wrong in the world.
like you always do here on this forum.

i'm not going to entertain you anymore by trying to defend what my NATO leaderships had to do.
i'll plainly tell you that we won't be trusting North-Korea nor Iran with nuclear tipped ICBMs any time soon.

the rest, i'll leave up to my NATO leaderships, without asking them what they're up to to counter this grave threat by a bunch of true modern-day dictators.

 

[Figaro]

I dont believe a thing.
NK has not miniaturised nukes, there is a technical great jump between a nuclear bomb and a miniaturised nuclear bomb.
I think the detonator is absolutely different, and that is what made possible the nuclear sharing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_sharing

i.e. even if you dismount a miniaturised nuke, you can not trigger it without the codes, but if you dismount NK nuke, you can trigger it.

Why don't you believe it? The North Koreans have already demonstrated they are capable of a thermonuclear device back in 2016 ... miniaturizing a warhead to fit on a missile is just a matter of years (back in 2016). People always underestimate North Korean abilities which is why they were so shocked *insert surprised Pikachu face* to see a North Korean missile successfully tested with a range of 10,000+ kilometers.

You are right that India is weaker than North Korea as they have longer range ICBMs which can easily reach India with nuclear warheads and in return India doesn't have a range of missiles to hit back north Korea..... but it will change once India develops Agni 6 we will have range to hit NK.....

The Chinese also need North Korea to serve as a buffer zone against US troops in South Korea ... it would not be pleasant for the Chinese to have US troops sitting on their doorstep, which was the main reason why China took part in the Korean War in the first place.

 

[vishwambhar]

Why don't you believe it? The North Koreans have already demonstrated they are capable of a thermonuclear device back in 2016 ... miniaturizing a warhead to fit on a missile is just a matter of years (back in 2016). People always underestimate North Korean abilities which is why they were so shocked *insert surprised Pikachu face* to see a North Korean missile successfully tested with a range of 10,000+ kilometers.

The Chinese also need North Korea to serve as a buffer zone against US troops in South Korea ... it would not be pleasant for the Chinese to have US troops sitting on their doorstep, which was the main reason why China took part in the Korean War in the first place.

Though I agree with strategic importance of NK for China I think USA will never dare to use ground troops against something like China.....high risk of getting them slaughtered by Chinese huge army which USA and NATO put together won't be able to match.....they haven't yet forgotten Vietnam and even against Iraq they first cleared the ground with air force and Tomahawks....

It will be America's gigantic naval, air and cruise missiles power that will be used to bring China to its knees and accept American terms and conditions.....

For such huge naval and air operations USA has plenty of logistics available in that region so actually you see NK cannot be a buffer if USA wants to attack China..... for China NK is a mad nuclear blackmail tool against USA and nothing.....

 

[AViet]

tell me this please, how are we supposed to trust nations like Iran and North-Korea and China when they're armed with nuclear ICBMs?

in my view, this will only lead to an increase in tensions.
is this what this alliance of China and North Korea and Iran want?
why?

Who is supposed to be "we" here?

 

[PeaceGen]

Who is supposed to be "we" here?

NATO and it's many allied countries..

 

[Feng Leng]

NATO and it's many allied countries..

If you don't want to trust them, then NK and Iran will have no choice but to nuke you.

 

[PeaceGen]

If you don't want to trust them, then NK and Iran will have no choice but to nuke you.

there are other solutions than the extreme solutions, dude..